I think conduit 3 as a legit hardcore shooter might appeal to fans this time around considering the controls and the gamepad potential.
A 3d pokemon rpg or even MMO
A reimagined dragon warrior rpg with real time combat or something
Tales of game(symphony etc)
SSB
monster hunter
mario kart
zombiu2 sequel with more multi modes or coop/ open world
gta 5- change radio stations, use pad as your map would be seamless in touching the map to place a marker etc
bioware rpg
a full on MMO would be easy with the gamepad even just porting a gameloft game like order and chaos
dead space implementation
I want more survival horror games


I think the gamepad has such a great potential to create a great tower defense or redefine the "horde" or "survival" multiplayer modes. The zombiu team has the right idea with the asymmetrical gameplay. imagine a game even just 8 players a chaotic defense based game like gears' horde mode with the "master" player with the gamepad setting traps and spawning enemies etc. the other players survive or even if online play each person with their gamepad has a menu brought up with upgrades they can do to their defenses. Someone really needs to take advantage of the idea and create a full on hardcore game like that even if its just a multiplayer game.

Id also love a legit racing game/ battle game with a robust upgrading system which utilizes the gamepad as the "garage station" to implement upgrades or mods. Whether it be a NFS or even a kart style racing game or a tank or space battleship starfox kind of game where you can take your ship online in super fast crazy gunship battles and you can deck out your own "cruiser"

So we got the games, launch date, pricing etc, but what still bugs me is how they are sneakily not bothering to reveal the GPU or CPU. I'm sure it's using a Radeon like the wii and we know it has a speculated 3 "enhanced" broadway" cores which may or may not be underpowered as some say compared to what the current consoles have. I'm more interested in the GPU. some speculate it to have an R700 or comparable to a 4000 series Radeon card. I could believe it as the console is 300 bucks at its cheapest. thats a pretty low end 4 year old card and probably just makes it in terms of delivering 1080p. I hope the developers really can push this console for smooth gameplay and solid graphics. I honestly don't see much of an improvement graphically for the console already if this speculation is true. Any thoughts on the GPU or hardware?

Just to reiterate, I guarantee the new xbox and PS will be using GPUs that will run Dx 11 with open GL 4.3 or whatever its on, while the Wii u is stuck at Dx 10.1 with open GL 3.3. The other consoles will have a much bigger leap from their precedents as well as the wii u. not saying the wii u will be bad looking, but its hardly a step up from the current generation, compared to what i see in the future of the competition. I think they under thought the cpu/ gpu and have gone for a lot more RAM probably to overcompensate for the system features and connectivity with the controller.

I think something that mixes FPS and RTS like natural selection on PC would implement the gamepad really nicely with one player as an RTS on multiplayer and the other players are FPS. On the other side, I think a cool IP space exploration game would be awesome that could implement the best of what nintendos franchises have been. make flying to other levels or planets like starfox with cool space battles, make it a fps or something like metroid for main gameplay, but have moments where it becomes a platformer or top down with the gamepad to solve puzzles. could be a more colorful bright but darker side of look like metroid. I could see you using the gamepad to hack doors, use a map, even upgrading your ship with parts and seeing your ship 360 rotation with the gamepad.

I would also love to see an exclusive dead space or one that utilizes the gamepad in some innovative way. I personally would love to see a RE or more horror or survival games make its way to the wii u. I think that nintendo is at a stalemate with a lot of fans. they have been always successful with 1st party games like mario, but killed their fan base with the lack of real 3rd party games like FPS games etc. Now they say they will allow 3rd party games but everyone questions why should I buy a new console for games I can play on this gen consoles. It definitely could use some new IP's like the colorful quirky mario or zelda franchises but it needs legit hardcore serious games that appeal to the darker side of gaming. zombiu looks like a great candidate, darker graphics, gore, trying to bring back survival horror. Something the wii u needs to cater to that group . Plus not just ports, but a reason to buy that version for the gamepad or added multiplayer modes with the gamepad for multiplatform games.

So it definitely has my vote for new IPs that are crazy and colorful like wonderful 101, it may not be a total franchise but an exclusive none the less. Also some serious toned IPs that can rage from third persons to fps or a mix of those like aforementioned ideas.

I understand where you are coming from, but just a morbid curiosity, I'd like to know WHAT exactly I'm buying you know. Why it is the price it is, is it a good investment long term etc.

It's exactly the very reason why I want to know. Is it really worth the long term investment if I can't swap out Gpus like my PC. Im stuck with that Gpu, and for that fact its going to already be half a decade old. Sure the IPs/ exclusives sell the console, but the whole idea is to press forward with hardware, to me it makes no sense why you wouldnt want to give the developers out there future proof hardware for work with longevity wise aka Dx 11. People will of course choose to buy multiplatform games only for a certain console. Much like those that only bought a Wii only complained and got made fun of for buying say COD on wii when theres obvious advantages to own the competitions versions. Just a pet peeve of mine to know what exactly I'm paying for in this 300 dollar package when a standalone gamepad cost almost 2/3 the price of the whole bundle.

While every other machine ps4 nextxbox pc etc will be showing off great engines with better graphics, physics etc, nintendo will be stuck with older software dx10 not that its bad by any means. It only just limits nintendo and their potential to make really great IPs. like they say, you don't need great physics to play mario. well you are only limiting yourself to make games on that playing field if you limit yourself hardware wise. it seems like they cant push any new boundaries but make games on par with whats already out there with what they are giving themselves. Dx11 will be much more capable compared to 10 obviously. Regardless, I plan on looking forward to the wii u despite whether it has super up to date or behind, im sure the games will be great using what they give!

from what they sound like with the internal storage, they dont seem to concerned with making a huge profit off consumers otherwise they would have included a massive HDD.

unless its that very reason peripherals like the gamepad make them so much money they dont care about the HDD and make them sound so much better that they arent trying to get that money from you

This is one of those games I KNEW was coming to the Wii U without official announcement. Whether or not the people here dislike it, I'm getting it. Who wants to join me online?

BTW good luck trying to play online, the online wont be available at launch of the system.

Oi! Throw us a link or I'll think you just made it up.

They brought on a tech demo when activision took the stage at the press conference on the 13th. they showed multiplayer and the dual screen with 2 player and talked about the graphics which honestly didnt look that much better.

Says who? Nintendo Network will be up day 1

unless whoever wrote the article is an idiot, which very well could be the case
"Sure, we know all about Miiverse and how people are going to be able to leave digital footprints across games and participate in its social network. But what about the games themselves? Nintendo's launch titles do not support online play"

My guess is they will unveil more info maybe a week or 2 before it comes out. they still left so many questions about the online service to begin with. what does anything past the start up screen look like, no friend codes, how will we add people etc. I still feel like BLOPS 2 will have a signicantly less community than its competition which is stopping me from switching my preorder. I also kind of feel like the gamepad will hinder my ability to play FPS games in general. Im so used to having that small ps3 and xbox controller with the analogs right next to eachother it must feel different to have them 7 inches apart and having to hold a much larger controller

Bethesda have already confirmed to not support WiiU

sadly. im sure once many more dev companies jump ship and make successful games, i bet they would jump on. bethesda or even bioware RPGs could work so well with this gamepad. your inventory, making your dialog choices, messing with hotkeys or assigned spells/buttons, picklocking stuff on the small screen. so many uses. I'm sure they will give in eventually if they see the money and opportunity.

These are games we will not buy for the Wii U. The games you hate the most, that you think are shovel ware

I think
5. New Super Mario Bros
4. ZombiU
3. Pikmin 3
2. Nintendo Land
1. Rayman

Spoiler

5. Funky Farm
4. Family Party 30 games
3. SiNg Party
2. Ben 10
1. Jet Tailfin

Honorable Mentions
Just Dance

sadly pikimin 3 is not confirmed for a day one launch

These are games we will not buy for the Wii U. The games you hate the most, that you think are shovel ware

I think
5. New Super Mario Bros
4. ZombiU
3. Pikmin 3
2. Nintendo Land
1. Rayman

Spoiler

5. Funky Farm
4. Family Party 30 games
3. SiNg Party
2. Ben 10
1. Jet Tailfin

Honorable Mentions
Just Dance

day 1 for me
zombiu
nintendoland
i hope wonderful 101 gets day 1
maybe tank tank tank

I'm sure the game will be awesome like every other one they've made, but seriously what could they possibly do that's innovating with the gamepad? I'd like more than just displaying inventory or just showing your map which is most likely what it will be used for.the best feature I can see is multiplayer using text or voice chat with the screen or something

I think that's why they made the classic controller pro. Isn't it?

True but then why am I bothering with this version if half of the point is to use the features in the gamepad?

I just wonder how fast exactly will an external HDD run full downloaded games. i hope it doesnt create long load times or laggy gameplay or anything like that! im suprised they arent usb 3.0 ports. Or even just using my flash drive for now until I get a lot more games later on when i need the space, if it can read the memory fast enough to play the games as it would an internal hdd

Depends on how quick the transfer rate is on the drive.

im really thinking of getting the biggest SD card i can find and just put it in there and not worry about an HDD. i wonder if that would be a faster transfer rate than a usb drive

Pulling up a random external drive to compare it to an SD card, the drive has a transfer rate of 480 Mbits/sec while SD cards can have a max of only 14.6 Mbits/sec. SD cards usually cost about a dollar per GB, of course the higher quality ones usually pay a bit more. But honestly for the price you might spend on a 32GB SD card, spend about 20 bucks more and you can get yourself a 500GB external drive. Sure you probaby don't need that much for a console, but you can use it for other things like movies and stuff. Personally I'm saving for a 2TB one for about 120 bucks just to store all my junk plus keep in the Wii U when I don't need it on my PC.

Definitely sounds much better to invest in the external which is what I'll do! I just hope retail digital downloaded games can run 100% the same as a disc

I currently have it preordered on another system. I keep debating whether or not to get it instead on wii u. The only problem I have is I am concerned it will have such a smaller online community. Any thoughts?

I think I might switch over to the wii u! I wonder how far the gamepad can play games on the smaller screen away from the tv. Or if I wanted to setup the system anywhere in my house regardless of a tv but still can play the game without the tv even being present! So far it looks like the double screen feature has been a multiplayer thing. They haven't really specified whether you can just play single player on the screen. Not all games will be able to utilize that, or all the time.

So far the developers have said they are really cutting back on the character selection which is a turn off honestly. That's part of what makes the game so great. It would be a bummer if they only had like 8 characters. Let alone the game really might only have that many anyway haha a lot of characters  have pretty much the same move sets just reskinned. Maybe it will work out better that way who knows.

My guess is this consoles gpu will only be compared to a radeon of the 4000 series which limits the cost down, but also limits the console at Dx 10.1 and a dated open GL

It would make a lot of sense since they announced the remix 1.5 of kingdom hearts which is like a collection pack, that they would port it over to the wii u. So far it's a ps3 exclusive but since they made ds or 3ds games, why not remaster them and make them on the second half of the collection a wii u exclusive. It will sell astwo separate halves as it is. It only makes sense to throw the Nintendo ones on there as well.

What is your personal opinion on Zombiu from you have have seen/heard about it? I believe it looks very promising and has massive potential but it could be a fail. The game looks to be too linear and I think the melee animations are really sloppy. Like when you swing the cricket bat it does the exact same slow animation over and over again. I don't want to overanalyze and critique every little thing but I've been really wanting to know what others think about it and its potential. So what does everybody think?

I wouldn't say it's linear too much. The games supposed to have random scares and little events so that the games never the same, and there will be branching or multiple paths to get to where you are going and even alternate shortcuts and such to discover like sewer systems. I think the single player looks solid I wish there was some implementation of coop or more multiplayer  modes like a straight survival mode with one zombie spawner and like 7 survivors. They are already in the talks of a possible second game which if this one is good, they plan on adding more multi and improving.

I have it pre-ordered and mostly paid off but I'm with you on the length...if it's not at least 10 hours I'll put my money toward Rayman Legends instead.  It's not that I don't think it'll be fun, but if there's no replay value and it's short, I'll wait until it's $30 or so.  NSMBU and Nintendo Land will keep me busy, and there's Lego City, Wonderful 101, Monster Hunter and Bayonetta right on the horizon.

The developers said they added more to the game since earlier on, and it's about 15 hours long maybe a couple more or less depending on your playing style. There will be multiple paths and secrets and shorcuts to get around the missions so there is replay ability with variety. Plus the zombies and items and scare moments are supposed to be randomated

You don't know much. And that's ok.

But you're asking people to not compare the wii u to systems that the mass media is comparing it to.

Even ms and Sony have compared and tried to say their systems can hold up when it fact they can't.

So excuse the folks around here for pointing out how much better the next gen is than the old. With misinformation being passed out like candy, it's normal to address these things.

On top of that, you want to compare the wii u to the weakest console Nintendo has ever made in comparison to its rivals.

So read and comprehend yourself, drink less coffee and learn to get your head out of the sand.

Enough of your "stop"
In fact, please stop.

Thanks.

If nintendo would just release the full specs of the machine, then there wouldnt be any reason for disputes if the hardware really is superior. I think it will be somewhat more powerful, not leaps and bounds but an improvement. I just think its a little fishy or shady that they must have something to hide about specs by just giving such a generic answer for the cpu or gpu. My guess is its not really too much better than we have now, so they think if they released that info at the conference that would deter some from buying or preordering.

Take zombiu's multiplayer idea
Asymmetrical gameplay
Throw it into the wii u version as an exclusive multiplayer mode
Profit.

It just makes so much sense to me. On person spawns the zombies and tries to kill the other players with the gamepad, the others try to survive. Zombiu has the right idea, but it's just not enough IMO. 1v1 seems too small and while local play is nice, its missing online.hoping they make a sequel and add more multiplayer ideas like this like they want to

Did anyone else catch any articles saying gamepads won't be sold in stores and Nintendo won't sell gamepads but if you break yours you have to pay to fix it? I find that extremely stupid and they said the console can handle two pads even with a fps drop yet they aren't really going to sell them? I understand their side of saving money on non spent units but you should at least be able to order a new gamepad through Nintendo if you choose to want one or another. Thoughts?