You would be doing yourself a good service in forgetting the reviews on this. Personally I'd give it an 8/10.

sound- very good and with headphones and the lights off is pretty engrossing
Graphics- could use some AA but still the game doesnt look bad at all IMO
Gameplay- They just must suck at aiming because I could kill zombies in like 2 hits to the head

I think there could be more variety of melee weapons as i did use the cricket bat most of the time

Overall its a solid game and im sure with everyone buying the game and supporting it we will get an even better sequel. controls are good enough but take a bit to get used to, but its worth the pricetag IMO and probably one of the best launch games

Its an error I already got the wii u version on the 9th. it seems everyone that ordered the game on amazon seemed to get it early on the 9th. I ordered the wii u version so its been sitting here for like a week waiting to be played!

If anyone is interested in protecting there game pad controller I just ordered this.I also ordered the write and protect kit just so I could have 2 extra screen protectors and extra stylus.

I Dont know why its saying page is illminated when I just saw it and ordered it lol.  Any way it  is a silicon cover made bye pdp who makes decent nintendo stuff if you want to check it out go to gamestops website it releases oct 29.

sorry heres a link   http://www.gamestop....-protect/104771

personally i think screen protection is the biggest sham ever whether its for a phone or an ipod or anything gaming or meant to be touched. i mean it comes with a stylus, its meant to be scratched and swiped and touched. its made out of a glass thats not going to get gashes in it unless you REALLY try.

I don't want another revelations. No zombies, so it wont intrigue me as much. That series can stay on 3ds. I want old remakes, or actually a better executed outbreak would be great! would work well with the gamepad for coop and communicating as well as your inv.

The online yes, I am worried about external hard drive. If I can split a 3TB HDD among my pc laptop and wii u and other entertainment agendas that would be awesome. I kinda have a feeling the wii u will make the HDD dedicated though, i'd hate having to worry about multiple external drives for different stuff between my computer stuff and having another one for just one console

Just thought about how cool it would be and a total game changer with the asymmetrical gameplay with the pad and wiimotes. All the mini games with regular and now the new gameplay! Maybe most are partied out since there's like 10 of them, but I personally haven't played one since n64. You guys think they will make a MP for wii u?

First off all, some guys here (Desert Punk) say that Wii U CPU is weak because Madden NFL 13 on Wii U is not using Player Impact Engine. But Fifa 13 on Wii U uses that same engine, and nobody is taking about that. So CPU is weak for Madden 13, but not for Fifa 13?

In modern games, GPU is computing AI, physics, and some other staff that were done by CPU in the past.

I have PC with 2 core CPU (AMD Athlon 250), and AMD Radeon HD6790. Nothing special, but all games work in 1080p, High details. So Wii U can, for surely do the same thing!

I personally suspect that the wii u will only have a 4-5000 series gpu so the 6790 would be far superior to a card in that range

Unity uses Direct X and OpenGL where applicable.

They use all DX11 features or none of them or some of them.

They can also implement OpenGL DX11 equivalent features.

Recently Valve mentioned that they find OpenGL to be faster than Direct X as well.  However a year ago, John Carmack mentioned he was seeing DX become more daring, since MS wasn't worried about breaking compatibility with older versions, whereas the OpenGL leadership was.

I can only imagine the near non-issue translating DX feature over to OGL was for Rocksteady, Crytek, and others making multiplat games on all consoles. Seems the CryEngine doesn't whine about it (pun intended), the Unreal engine keeps it real using both, and the Unity engine will keep it together.

So you have a DX11 (Direct 3D) capable GPU that can be used to run either DX11 or Open GL (or custom API) with equivalent features.  In addition to that, a huge company like Nintendo or apple can write their own equivalent (or day I say it ... better *gasp!*) APIs if they are so inclined (especially working closely with a single hardware GPU partner...). It's a stinking mountain of work though.

It's a bit of a challenge at first, but its actually somewhat commonplace.

Direct X 11 is not the holy grail.  But its capabilities represent the standard for new games.  So long as similar functionality is present in whatever API is being used, it's a win, whether that be a licensing of DX itself, an OpenGL equivalent, or another method...).

maybe its a good thing it wont bother with dx11 anyway. I dont think a lot of titles for the wii u and highly probable that 1st party wont use the usual unreal engine etc for games anyway. This is honestly a good change of pace. Im SICK of the unreal 3 engine since 75% of games seem to use it as its reliable and a great engine but in the end too many games look the same with that overly gritty dark color palette, and the muscular look to it. I'd like to see other engines utilized heavily. At the same time, I just wonder if it can truly handle the even greater engines coming out like luminious engine

So anyone with tech knowhow get anything from this??

sadly this still doesnt give much away other than some design work. We all are still curious about the exact model of gpu or cpu thats in this thing

Read this guys. It tells about the local multiplayer which seems pretty awesome.
http://mynintendonew...modes-revealed/

This seems really broad in terms of gameplay. what exactly is assault? is it the CTF gameplay weve seen in videos with the capture points? deathmatch hardly seems like a good idea since its one on one and should be involved with more players. I think 1v1 for any mode other than that CTF/survival wave mode weve seen is lacking IMO. If there was 5 player support 4 controllers 1 gamepad MP that would be something else local or online. but these modes without much detail wont do much justice for 1 on 1.

I'm not a computer whiz, but this makes more sense to me.  Why would anyone judge the Wii U by games that were specifically designed for an older different architecture?  At that point, it really is a matter of how much resources does the developer want to divert to the port.  For a lot of developers, this may not make much financial sense since a lot of these games are already out on store shelves.  

It would make more sense to judge the Wii U based on games that were being developed from the ground up for the Wii U (and the other consoles) rather than ports of existing games that were optimized for a particular architecture.

I think we will see what the Wii U can truly do in about a year to 18 months, and I don't think it will disappoint either.

this is the problem im trying to get at. " equivalent" to Dx11. wouldnt it be much simpler to have a Gpu that can handle Dx11? makes much more sense and easier architecturally for developers to make games. its the same scenario for the wii. based on different code, developers will have to put in the extra time/ effort to make a different wii u version of the same game theyd gladly port over to the console IF it could just run the same engines no problem. but if it cant, it might shy away companies from bothering with a wii u version because they dont want to waste time or money on making a different version just for that console when they have 2 others to worry about. taking more time to write more code would be considered a hassle or burden instead if the console was capable of the same engines.

well 4 you can just play the wii version. not really necessary to be on the eshop or VC in terms of GC games. why not take an edition with more content?

You don't like Nintendo TVii? You must not be a sports fan. And also just because you think things aren't necessary in a console doesn't they aren't nice to have.

I am a sports fan, I like watching football and hockey and am an MMA fighter myself so I love watching fights. Still it just doesn't seem to appeal to me. Microsoft just announced soon the xbox will be a radio as well. like why? most peoples phones or laptops or tablets etc can browse the internet, even tvs browse the internet now, we dont really need a console to do that or using up the RAM to do so in multitasking if it doesnt need to be utilized, it still has dedicated amount of RAM for something like that which seems like a waste. Every new gadget has the ability to do the same things as it is, they just seem like pointless add ons. I just feel microsoft could be doing SO MUCH MORE with GAMING which was the intent of the system in the first place. its meant for games; instead of worrying about other media crap. they said they dont care about exclusives and IPs for games anymore. Well How do you expect to sell the nextbox? No one is going to run out and get it because it will have netflix and hulu and a browser on it. They should be focusing on more things thatll sell the main attraction of the console which is original games. I hardly ever use my xbox and will even less when the wii u comes out bc of exclusives and new games to play. I'm afraid less emphasis is on gaming these days. its more about social media, but I have 500 other devices that were meant for that. a pc, a phone, tablet etc. I want my gaming console to focus on delivering great games and nothing else. NES and Genesis didnt need all this extra crap to sell millions of units, why? because it had tremendous libraries of good games. Their view is so dissolved now with focusing on media entertainment as a whole and not why they invented the xbox division. To make games. Case in point, focus on what they are now- the console in the future will suffer because a lack of exclusives, but more of LOOK WHAT I CAN DO. yeah, well everything does that too. sorry guys just a rant and im done haha.

People like the convenience of all in one devices.

The iPhone is a perfect example of why they sell.

true, but how many times can you buy the same device over and over and get the same features on everything. my pc has netflix, phones, my tv has nextflix, my vita, wii, ps3, xbox. they arent locking anything special or exclusive anymore to push sales.

Yeah id love to see them finish what they started with the RE1 remake to 2,3, and veronica and 0 looked great as it was and id love to run through that game again as well. reggie said this "Speaking to Kotaku, Reggie wasn't able to fully confirm

GameCube games

on the Wii U Virtual Console, but he did note that he would "love for that to happen... [although] we have nothing to announce right now."

so the interest is there and the idea is planted in their mind, its really up to them to make it happen. it seems logical to me since they know people have wiis or even plan on trading them in bc the wii u is BC with wii but not GC. Only makes logical sense to me and could drive digital sales as well for the Eshop. Only time will tell.

Can you read? It says DirectX11 equivalent graphics not PS3 Xbox equivalent. And Directx11 is pretty good.

I never specified whether the ports would be this gen or next gen did I? To me this sounds like Nintendo is saying yeah our console can produce "basically the same thing" but will we? probably not. The graphics card utilized in this console wont be over a 4-5000 series radeon which means Dx 11 wont be possible but it will run Dx10.1. if it COULD run Dx11 they would just come out and say they could run DX11 not say we can mimic just about the same thing. what will the future of games run on on the other consoles which most developers will probably focus on like ps4 or nextbox? Dx11 which will have unreal 4 etc, which will need a better GPU capable of open GL4 and Dx11 not open GL3 and Dx10.1 which is what the wii u looks like it will have based on just speculation. Ultimately what I'm getting at is do you think that if this console can't truly utilize something like unreal 4 engine or something of the same caliber, will developers WANT to even take the time and money to have to rework around the wii u's separate abilities in hardware terms to make its own port which is the fate the wii suffered because devs didnt want to take the time to make a special version just for the console. IMO the wii u will be great, but all evidence to me points that the GPU will not be capable of Dx11 which many new engines will utilize and many devs will flock to those engines to make games. It will have equivalent which is the key word.

Lol

Nintendo adds another engine to the stockpile they've been building, which includes unreal and crytek. All of a sudden the latest addition is "the way they're going"

Wow.

The way they are going is the way of choice. The aaa games will have your choice of engine, but most will prob be on unreal or cryengine - current and future engines. Other games that aren't that ambitious can use unity without the developer having to develop their own (often subpar) engine. And unity is very nice these day.

Look for ms and Sony to follow suit in enticing developers with tons of already procured game engine tech, etc. But no one will question them. Or accuse them of heading down some unfortunate path simply because they offered a certain piece of tech in addition to others...

If a German bar happens to sell coca cola as well, it doesn't mean the beer has degraded or that the bar is no good anymore. It simply means there's another choice. If you don't like unity's Coke, then stick with Unreal's beer. L

Also, the wii u is capable or direct x11 I'f Nintendo or a studio wants to license it for wii u. And where that's not used, the open gl equivalent is available. It's all pretty sweet.

of course nothing against the unity engine. what i meant by the way they are going, I think nintendo will use this engine for many games, but they also are hinting to push at indie developers which is most likely utilize unity as well so thats just what i meant. the way im perceiving "equivalent" says it can't do it because of the fact that it will most likely have a 3-4 year old GPU. all speculation of course but if thats true,  I believe DX 10.1 is what the console can do and not Dx11 which is basically the future of what games a year or 2 from now will be running on. If they could run Dx11 which would be an impressive statement for a console, they'd come out and gladly say it. To me saying we can do the same thing but wont do the same thing is a whole other story that  says it CANT. I do hope I am wrong though and the hardware can run it, but I personally highly doubt the machine can with an underclocked cpu and a gpu thats how many years old compared to new cards  PCs have these days which will run Dx11 and open GL 4.x

Is anyone else irked by the fact that Sony and Micro and Nintendo are trying to make GAMING consoles into these stupid all in one entertainment centers? Doesn't it just take away business from yourself like Sony to have someone buy a ps3 that they make no money on and watch movies on it as opposed to a cheap blu ray player they can make 20 bucks on a pop in profit hypothetically? I don't need my GAMING console to have hulu or netflix or apps. MANY new tvs coming out these days have these features or smart tvs built in with all that crap. I buy a gaming console to play games on them, maybe a movie occasionally but overall its meant as a gaming machine. The wii u of course has that TVii all in one thing which IMO just seems kinda pointless. I wasn't really struggling using 1 or 2 remotes to begin with for a satellite box and tv separately. I feel overall in the future there will be less primary focus on the main purpose of playing games with consoles, but trying to do more of what nintendo is doing with TVii.

There are a ton of online features. This is survival horror though so I don't think multiplayer would work that well just yet.

well aside from the dark souls style social network and "invading" someones game with a dead character is one thing. I feel they started the online portion, but they wanted to make sure they focused on the single player to deliver on that side which is respectable. honestly their multiplayer mode is just a tease though. It started off on the right foot then they just cut it loose with the 1v1 asymmetrical play. Nintendo consoles have always been the kind of multiplay and local gatherings, but in this day and age, gaming has changed as well, and if you are going to cater to the online community it needs to be done right. IMO local/ splitscreen in a game should always be there as well as online if they implement MP in any way shape or form. I was hoping they would at least made other modes than CTF or added 1 zombie master and like 4 survivors that way at least 5 people could play on the same console or at least online. I have a very good feeling there will be a sequel to this game as the developers are interested in it anyhow, and they already said they want to add more MP to another game. Usually I'd say no to coop, but for some reason I can see this game working, maybe with a shorter separate side campaign or something.

Case in point this game COULD implement MP right, as a separate feature from the single player so its not a hinderance to the scary experience, but merely an extra for when you want a fun break from the intense single player portion. I could see 5 players in a room or online being very fun with a survivor mode of 4 survivors and a zombie spawner setting traps etc

To me "equivalent" says wii u wont be getting many ports of newer next gen games then especially if they run on the new cry engine or fox or unreal 4. unity seems to be the direction that wii u is going. so that does kind of worry me, but i guess thats what other consoles are for as well without ports.

Not if they have too many, then it's first come first serve. I had to wait 2 months even after preordering the Wii.

I think they learned their lesson at least GS did this time. I read somewhere when I preordered mine that they weren't going to let that happen this time. I noticed that the preorders were sold out a long time ago, to ensure those that preordered first before the sold out buttons online or in stores were there and so forth. Now they have a preorder "waiting list". So I'm sure this time around those who actually got the preorder will get theirs and not be disappointed.

The vita with the ps3 still has yet to be utilized and I'm sure will soon enough in the future. Not to mention unlike Microsoft, sony cares about exclusives and IPs and still has many coming up in the next year or even 2. The console will be strong still then. They already said they are supporting ps3 till 2015. I won't expect any talk of a ps4 till maybe next e3 if not the 2014 e3. Then my guess two options occur. They either show a finalized console then and say it comes out in November which creates the chaos of sales, or they wait till 2015 to show the finalized product and say it will come out that holiday season. I don't see them talking too much about it next year, as they will show off more IPs and vita support unlike they did this year. By that time wii u will already be in its almost mid lifcycle a couple years from now:)

http://wiiudaily.com...player-details/

And now let your souls die.

It has the local 1 mode multiplayer. While I wish there were other modes or coop or something too, the developers are already anticipating if this game does well they will make a sequel with a lot more multiplayer implemented.

http://wiiudaily.com...player-details/

And now let your souls die.

It has the local 1 mode multiplayer. While I wish there were other modes or coop or something too, the developers are already anticipating if this game does well they will make a sequel with a lot more multiplayer implemented.

I think a lot of people are totally misunderstanding this game and are expecting it to be something that its not. Like Nazi Zombies in Call of Duty or Left 4 Dead.
This is not an action-game. You will have to save every bullet you can if you want to progress in this game.

Heres a great preview
http://www.vg247.com/2012/09/18/zombiu-hands-on-the-dark-souls-of-zombie-games/

I completely agree with you, and for the single player experience this is perfect. But what happens when you play through the game once twice or even three times and youre sick of it, if each play through is only like 10 hours or a little more give or take hypothetically, a good multiplayer addition would make the overall sense of getting your moneys worth greater. I think the asymmetrical idea they have is great, they just could have not stopped where they did with it. As long as they implemented multiplayer in its own sense that doesn't feel tacked on or rushed, I'm ok with it. Overall I'm here to play the single player though. More multiplayer modes or more people in the one mode would even have been better, but that's just me.

Reggie is very interested in the idea of GameCube games on the wii u EShop. I myself would love to see every game in GC available, but that's wishful thinking. Here's my list of what I'd love to see in there. What about you guys?


Battalion wars
Windwaker
RE 0123 remakes
Tales of symphonia
Skies of Arcadia
Viewtiful joe 1
Paper Mario
Metroid
Eternal darkness

If they made some sort of emulator to play gameboy color and advanced games, seriously would be amazing.

Hey guys! I'm here to ask everybody which Wii U you are getting? Are you going to get the Basic pack, or the Deluxe pack? Me? I'll just get the basic pack. I really don't need all of those extras for an additional $50.

If you honestly don't care about nintendoland the basic is fine. I personally like the white better. Plus I'm sure just about everyone is going to get an external memory expansion down the road anyway.

I thought if you broke anything you normally pay to fix it.

What I should have said was Nintendo said physical damage isn't covered. So what I'm saying is what if you DO drop it on accident, it breaks and nintendo won't sell you another one. So you have to either import a really expensive one online if you can get one, or buy a whole new system set just for the gamepad?

Did anyone else catch any articles saying gamepads won't be sold in stores and Nintendo won't sell gamepads but if you break yours you have to pay to fix it? I find that extremely stupid and they said the console can handle two pads even with a fps drop yet they aren't really going to sell them? I understand their side of saving money on non spent units but you should at least be able to order a new gamepad through Nintendo if you choose to want one or another. Thoughts?

It just makes so much sense to me. On person spawns the zombies and tries to kill the other players with the gamepad, the others try to survive. Zombiu has the right idea, but it's just not enough IMO. 1v1 seems too small and while local play is nice, its missing online.hoping they make a sequel and add more multiplayer ideas like this like they want to