Not sure if the links work but I wanted to show how FF XV looks wayyyyyy too similar to Xenoblade Chronicles!!! Imitation is the best form of flattery I guess.  So what do you guys think is SE getting some inspiration from Monolith Soft?

I definitely feel that FFXV eventually became influenced by the nature of the positive responses about Xenoblade's vast world.

 

I also believe they have been making adjustments to more closely compete with Xenoblade Chronicles 'X' now that they've seen it, mostly because there's no denying that many people such as myself feel that Xenoblade Chronicles was the proper spiritual successor to the Final Fantasy series when it started going after emo teenager stuff and started completely ignoring that "fantasy" part in the title, lol

With the abomination that was FF XIII, SE surely needed inspiration from an actual GOOD RPG that is XBC!!!

http://thewiiu.com/t...ade-impression/

Opps didn't realize that someone else noticed the similarity. Will comment on that side from now on.

Hella funny, Kamiya tired of trying to explain that Bayonetta 2 will never come to PS4/XB1 pwns a Wii U troll.  The troll asks Kamiya if he is dissapointed developing Bayo2 for such a weak system.  Kamiya responds to the troll, asking if his mom was dissapointed in his inferior son!!!  Ouch!!! Kamiya destroyed that troll online!!! Only thing is...Wii U trolls seem to be in full defense calling him a jerk.  If someones gonna be an @$$ expect to be disrespected in my opinion. BTW here's the link: https://twitter.com/...779146286436352

So what do you think well deserved or did Kamiya go a little over the top embarassing this nice young man?

https://twitter.com/...779146286436352

lol...excatly dude got destroyed!!!

Recently Nintendo has been funding various studios to add new IP's (in the case of Bayo2 co-owning) to their stable of games for the Wii U.  A few examples of these are Devil's 3rd, Wonderful101, and the critically acclaimed Bayo2.  Which other games should Nintendo fund in order to gain more software and more importantly new IPs for the Wii U?  I personally liked Shadow of the Eternals; despite it's early stages it looked like it could have been a good sequel to Eternal Darkness.  It had nice visuals and the story was at least intriguing.  What do you guys think any other ones Nintendo should have picked up?

As much as I love Eternal darkness, I believe Nintendo made the right decision not to take on dyacks new group. Just read up on dyack and the unreliable money pit hes become since Silicon knights left the Nintndo partnership. Just look up what he did to xmen destiny... The guy has completely confirmed himself as a bad investment.

On the bright side, Nintendo are the ones who own the eternal darkness IP, they can make a new game with any team they deem worthy.

Yeah I've heard of Dyack's a financial liability and do agree to a certain level regarding Precursor Games.  Also the fact that they are using CryEngine instead of Unity (seems to be Nintendo's preferred engine) might have complications as Nintendo seems to have a deal with the latter.  I do hope that Precursor sells some of the finished assets (scripts, artwork, code etc) to Nintendo, so maybe a team like Retro could finish the game with polish without going over budget.  The premise to Shadow of the Eternals is intriguing enough to be a worthy of being a true sequel to Eternal Darkness!

okay ppl Bayo2 it is!!!

Bayonetta you get 2 games for the price of one. Tho I am biased as I love PG games in general. Warriors games I enjoy but it's more niche as people either like or hate those games. Bayonetta is just the best Action game ever made period and Bayo2 can likely top it.

 

HW I think you need to ask yourself how big a Zelda fan are you and have you played a Warriors game before. If not might be best to try some others first to get a basic idea. HW is not a reskin so other Warriors games don't give a full idea but a basic idea what to expect.

Thanks, the 2 games in 1 does sound mighty tempting!!!  Anyways, I've played a little bit of Warriors on the 3DS and it was somewhat boring as I did not know any of the characters or the point to the story.  However, having a story based on Hylian lore might make it more interesting to us Nintendo gamers.  By the way does Bayonetta play similar to DmC, Darkstalkers, or Dante's Inferno?

I could only pick either this or Hyrule Warriors before Christmas.  It's such a hard decision...any suggestions which might be a better day one purchase.

sorry didn't know how to set it to grid view after copy and pasting it from the site. Here's the link though: http://www.m-create..../e_ranking.html

Anyways, it's kinda' depressing seeing the Wii U dip to sub 8K levels just a few months after MK8 and 2 weeks after Hyrule Warriors. I'm hoping that Bayo 2 will bring it back up to 10K-15K level for a few weeks.  Otherwise Smash is the only thing Nintendo has in it's cards to bring Japanese sales to respectable levels.

Software sales:

Hardware Sales:

1. Xbox One 25,674
2. 3DS LL 23,624
3. Vita 14,441
4. Wii U 7,349
5. PS4 7,299
6. PS3 6,139
7. 3DS 5,931
8. Vita TV 910
9. PSP 288
10. Xbox 360 126

3DS leads all hardware with 29,555 and Nintendo leads all hardware with ~37K sold for the week.  Obviously MK8 hardware boost is beginning to wane already and Hyrule Warriors had a minimal impact on hardware.  Hopefully Bayo 2 will bring the Wii U to a 10K unit average until Smash releases this November/December.

I hope Bayonetta 2 can sell 100k in Japan..

 

[Wii U] Bayonetta 2 (Nintendo, 09/20/14) – 38,828 (New) 

 

 

Better opening then Wonderful 101.. that 1st week was a bit less than 7,000.

I agree that it is wayyyy better start compared to W101 (still hoping that they make a sequel with this new Nintendo IP) and the game has a sure shot of hitting 100K units in Japan alone before the end of the year.  I expect it to sell somewhere in the 100K units in the USA in it's first week with NPD giving it a monthly sale of around 140K-150K for the month.  I am hoping that with Operation Platinum that it sells another 200K-300K until the end of the holidays.  In the EU I expect 85K-90K units the first week and selling another 100K for the rest of the year.  In total I expect it to reach at least 550K after the holidays and legging out to 1Mil by the end of the Wii U lifetime.

I am relieved that the game sold quite decently.  It was in line with the 35K-40K I was expecting avoiding a disaster if it sold only >20K that many Wii U haters were predicting.  It should creep to a decent 100K units sold by the end of the year having almost similar sales to HW (60K) and expected sales boost from Wii U version of Smash.  The Wii U really needs a home console version of MH4 and Pokemon RPG to really maintain momentum after the Smash release.  I don't see any software maintaining it's hardware sales after Smash Bros.  PS4 and Destiny had a good hold and X1 is literally DOA in Japan with sales  <1.5K units.  On the portable side the 3DS is beasting over the PSV which is all but dead anywhere outside Japan!!

BTW I expect Bayo2 to sell 2-3x as much in the NA territories and 1.5x-2x in EU territories compared to Japan!!!

Ouch at bayo 2 numbers being half of bayo 1's on the 360, despite the wii u having a larger install base... WHy has japan stopped buying great games?

At least its better than what they did to the wonderful 101.

Bayo2 's sales may not be stellar, but solid enough to sell through 67% of it's intial shipment of 56K units.  http://www.siliconer...-its-shipment/  . Surely, it must be witihin Nintendo's expectations already for Japan. As for the X360 sales, it had a 5 days to sell vs 2 days for the Wii U. The game should sell through it's initial shipment by next MC numbers if not more (I expect it to sell 15-17K units on it's second week bringing a total to 54K-56K not counting digital sales).  I also think the game sold decently with digital if it is selling for a lower cost than retail couterpart due to the omission of the 1st Bayonetta.  The real test if this game is a flop or not is not Japan but the West.  If it fails to sell at least 100K units(a travesty) for October NPD it would mean Nintendo/Platinum has a stinker (in sales) on it's hands!!! Again, I predict the game should sold at least 100K by the end of the year in Japan, ~250-300K for NPD's end of the year numbers, and 150K in European territores by the conclusion of the holidays.  So 3Dude what do you predict the numbers are going to be for all regions?

I have an update on sales...not looking good for Bayo2 reaching 100K before the end of 2014!!!

Wii U depressingly low despite three  major AAA software releases in Bayonetta 2, Hyrule Warriors and Fatal Frame!!! At this point Nintendo needs to really refocus their energies towards the west as Japan seems to be a lost cause.  The only way the can resesuciate the Wii U there is by releasing MH4G for the console after releasing Smash this holiday; then releasing a Pokemon title and then maybe the next DQ (most likely will go to PS4 than Wii U).  I do think they really need to get a major software release right after Smash to keep the Wii U alive in Japan!!!  Where is FE vs SMT, why is there no sequel to Last Story, where is a console Pokemon game and why haven't Nintendo offered to fund other AAA JRPG's like Tales or DQ to gain exclusives for it in Japan. Nintendo of Japan's decisions have been very defensive as of late and needs to really up their game.

The Good:

• Nintendo hardware sold the best out of their respective categories.
• Another dominant showing of the 3DS despite a new version coming
• Smash 3DS is a smashing success.
• Fatal Frame a decent FW compared to the other series.
• Bayonetta 2 in the top 20 still
• Fatal Frame causing a 20% bump in Wii U hardware
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The Bad

• Bayonetta 2 fails to sell out of it's inital stock. (~81% sell through on 2nd week though)
• Fatal Frame sold below Bayo2's FW sales
• The 3 games that was suppose to increase Wii U sales consistently above 10K units (Hyrule Warriors, Bayo2, and FF) were negligible leaving only Smash this holiday to pick up the slack.
• Bayo 2 will struggle to reach 100K units by the end of 2014 in Japan.

Fire Emblem isn't dead. We just got Awakening on 3ds last year and SMTXFE is coming out. Metroid has already been announced as in the planning. StarFox was at E3 and has a 2015 release date. Fast Racing Neo will take care of F zero and they have over 80 new IP's the last 13 years. They have Fatal Frame just need to bring it west for horror. They also have a Action/Shooter coming up from the creator of Ninja Gaiden in Devils Third.

I am aware that some of these games have come out on the 3DS; but they have not come out in years for a home console.  Metroid Prime for example have been missing from the home console scene almost 7 years and some games like FE, StarFox, F0, Custom Robo, Battallion Wars, etc are even longer.  Besides, W101, Drillon, Sakura Samurai, NintendoLand and Splatoon what other IP's have Nintendo created?  I know they have a backlog of IP's but they rarely use them regardless of how well received they are by the public for example Eternal Darkness.  I for one wished that Nintendo funded and co-owned Shadow of the Eternals and made it into a sequel to Eternal Darkness rather than funding a superfical game like Devil's 3rd from Itakagi. 

What Nintendo needs right now is a decent action adventure shooter like Metroid Prime on the Wii U!!!  They were one of the pioneers of this genre for crying out loud.  They also need  to revive IPs like Eternal Darkness, Starfox, FireEmblem, Custom Robo, F-Zero(FRN would make a great F0  Nintendo) etc for their home console.  They should tap into funding more quality indie titles like Festival of Magic, Shovel Knight, and SteamWorlds to fill in the gaps as well.

Tv? You think they captured this from the tv? I thought a capturecard was used. Don't know if you can adjust rgb settings on those though. Yet, the same editor knew how to capture bayonetta2 footage since that looks great. Strange case.

It really doesn't matter as the Wii U was meant for being played on a regular HDTV that uses limited range RGB setting anyways (90% of console gamers game on LED TVs instead of monitors),  Therefore the insufficiency displayed on those videos using capture cards that are meant for Full RGB will be negligible if not eliminated all together.  C'mon Lupaie are you still thinking that the Wii U is subpar compared to X360 or PS3?  Can't we give this a rest as it's been proven time and time again that the Wii U is a step or two ahead of the X360/PS3 even if it is a step back from PS4/X1.

I said it before SE is now a shell of it's former self after Sakaguchi left the company!!!

FF15 most definitely drew inspiration from Xenoblade Chronicles.  It maybe a step or two above XBC in terms of graphics but originality and gameplay seems to favor XBC over FF15.   Also with SE predictable and cliche plots recently; XBC also is a step above that!!!  It's gonna be a good battle between these 2 rpgs.  I think XBC will out score FF15 in reviews but FF15 will mosdef win in the sales dept.  I predict XBC will sell between 1.2-1.5 mil units lifetime and FF15 will get >5mil easily

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