I'd definitely buy it. This is one of those things that usually never makes it out of Japan so I sure hope it does!

 
That looks pretty good.

Only thing I would be concerned about would be, whats the field of view being used? Although thats not too huge a concern, So I dont blame him for leaving it out.

Aside from that, there are only a few possibilities for error.

1. If he somehow got the wrong land feature (Not looking likely since its at links arrow.) or got the right lind feature but made a brainfart and used one other than what he wanted for the calculation.

2. If the overview map is not to scale with the in game map (Possibly to fit it on the game pad, whilst still being functionally usable by human eyes at a 480p res?)

Seems a good size to me for a level 4 LvO game as tightly designed as Zelda. So... assuming we got another 8 dungeon Zelda, that would be 1 dungeon hidden somewhere in every 5 square clicks.

Yeah, I wouldn't take it too seriously as an accurate estimate. But as a rough estimate, it seems quite plausible to me.

I wasn't sure what you were suggesting by field of view though. Which part of his calculation would've been altered by the fov?

As for #2, I assume you mean in proportion to the real map? Yeah, there's no way of knowing that for sure. I think generally the safest assumption is that it is in proportion. The reason being that that's the easiest way for developers to handle drawing the player's cursor on the minimap (just read the X-Z coordinates and then scale them down by a constant)

Well only time will tell. You might indeed end up being correct. But I'm very skeptical.

I'm also fairly skeptical that you'll admit you were wrong if that does indeed turn out to be the case. The classic behaviour of people who are too sure of themselves is to just pretend it never happened when they're shown to be wrong. Cognitive Dissonance time!

I wasn't necessarily assuming it was translated. "Using kyoto as my base" could simply be a way of saying "it's huge." or "so big that I've lost track" or something along those lines. People have lots of different expressions like that around the world. You can't tell enough from a transcript. If he'd said it with a complete straight face, I'd maybe take it as literal. If he'd said it whilst laughing, I'd probably assume he was being hyperbolic.

I have no idea what you're going on about with the NES map. And there's nothing in that video you linked that says anything about specific sizes at all! 

And what are you talking about Zidane being 400 feet tall? The world map in Final Fantasy games was purposefully out of scale. There is no world map screen in Zelda. It's all to scale! That's where the measurements for a game world actually come from, comparing it to the character's height. 

I also look at it like this. We're getting legitimate handheld versions of games that were previously tied to home consoles...and I think that's fantastic. Granted, I still think asking full price for a console to handheld port without adding much of anything new is a bit much, but it's still fantastic that we're getting them.

If it's just a port, I agree full price is bad. But I wouldn't call the 2 Zelda games ports at all. They're complete remakes. I don't think Nintendo have ever charged full price for a port, have they?

Wind waker HD is the closest I guess. I'm not even sure I'd call that a port. But I guess some people might. The line between port and remake is very blurry.

He didn't give a specific answer though did he? "Use kyoto as my base" is not a specific answer. "It's 100miles^2" would've been a specific answer.
I have no idea what "as my base" means. And also the sizes of cities are defined in quite a few different ways.

I didn't see anywhere in the post you linked where they calculated the size.

These guys in this thread calculated the size: http://www.ign.com/b...what.454321442/

They got around 16mi^2 for Zelda. 

Whereas XCX is apparently 125mi^2. (about 8 times the size)

I'm not saying I necessarily believe that. Skepticism is better than certainty. Certainty just leaves you looking stupid when you're wrong!

What is so hard to understand where he literally uses Kyoto as his base size for Zelda U?

 

 

Been posted in this forum a hundred times how the maps match up. The size matches up.

You have no idea if he meant it literally. It could've just been a bad translation.

Point me at where someone shows that the "size matches up".

 

As for people saying "too many remakes/re-releases"...well, you're not wrong. But the thing is, this is pretty much par for the course for Nintendo. The GBC got a few SNES/NES ports, GBA got even more SNES ports, DS/3DS got a few N64 remakes/ports, so it wouldn't surprise me if Nintendo moved to GameCube remakes/ports for the New3DS.

The good thing about remakes is at least you know you're getting a pretty good game. They don't tend to remake bad games. And when it's a game you haven't played for a decade or so (like Majora's Mask), it's pretty much as good as a new game.

http://www.gengame.n...to-kyoto-japan/

http://nintendoevery...to-as-his-base/

Hmmmm, I'm not convinced that was necessarily meant literally. He could've just meant that as a way of saying "it's huge."

When you look at the world map on that preview video, it doesn't look that big. Certainly not as big as XCX! Of course, maybe what we saw wasn't the entire world map.

And I can't really imagine them going that large with Zelda. Just doesn't seem to fit the formula.

if Nintendo's claim is correct yes. They claim the size of Kyoto. So Zelda U is maybe double the size of XCX.

Can I have a reference to that?

This is news to me too.

I'm not buying this rumour. I doubt they'll do any more Zelda in the near future. Nintendo don't tend to oversaturate a genre. I'd much rather see another 3D Mario. The sunshine remake would be birlliant. 

Wrong. Dragon Quest IX sold 1 million units in the US alone. DQ9 became the best selling DQ game of all time. Bravely Default sold 1 million units. Fire Emblem Awakening sold close to 1 million when it needed 240 thousand to be successful.

 

Not only do they sell. They have been setting sales records.

Fire Emblem is probably closer to 2 million at this point. It's at 1.5million physical sales. Add somewhere between 10-20 percent for digital. It's the best selling in the franchise by quite a way!

Am I allowed to post how dumb it is to buy a console based on architecture?

What he said. This would be like choosing your girlfriend based on eye colour.

Pretty sure a western release is coming. If I recall, Bravely Default actually sold well in EU and NA.

Yep. The non-Japanese sales outnumbered the Japanese sales by a fair way. We'll almost definitely be getting this. Now we just need them to announce FF Explorers and DQ7.

Nobody's hyping it up ether. Still have no idea if its going to be good then.

Well they've been almost silent about it. And the stuff we have seen looked incredibly last-gen and lacked any memorable style or character. Compare some of the screens to Bayonetta 2 and it's just an instant loss.

Always loved the first worlds in 2D mario games. The nice green grassy places. Can't remember what it's called in NSMBU though. I've really stopped paying attention to any of the lore in Mario games.

That's some pretty heavy Bethesda criticism. I do agree on what you're calling spatial compression as a form of bad game design. The difference between Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 3 is a great example of this. Mass Effect 3 is so clearly designed to appeal to a mainstream audience that you have to have a consistent list of attractions at every single location in the game. Mass Effect 1 feels more like a more believable universe. Planets you explore are mostly barren and empty. There are whole areas in the various "hub" locations that are completely meaningless, but are simply there to be explored. I remember 1 part on the Citadel, you run down a long corridor to someone's office. There's no-one in there. And nothing of interest throughout the entire game. That's actually a good thing. It makes it a more believable world.

Definitely be getting this to go with my new3DS. Unless it gets the worst reviews in the world. It's got 7/10 written all over it!

Haha I hope they're not spending too much on the budget for Devil's Third. Cos no-one's buying the damn thing.

I'd love to see some footage or screenshots of this if anyone's noticed any (the remaster)? If it's a remaster along the same lines as the 3DS Zeldas, id definitely be interested. I'm guessing it's probably more of a Vita style remaster though. Which probably means exactly the same game in a new resolution.

I'd love to know what they actually include in their calculations of world size. If there's a lake that's 1mile x 1mile in area with an interesting island at the centre of it, I'm betting they include that whole square mile in their arithmetic. Which is kinda cheating. 

I haven't. . EU will be getting iron fall though this Friday! NA hasn't been announced with a specific date.

I think I saw a NA date on their most recent tweet or press release. Something like a week or 2 behind europe. 

Anyone heard anything of a EU release date? It'd be nice to have had this available in time for the New3DS

1. Phantom Hourglass

2. Chrono Trigger

3. Advance Wars: Dual Strike

4. Final Fantasy IV

5. Super Mario 64 DS

Such a great library to choose from. Glad to see the 3DS will probably outdo it by the end of its lifespan, in game variety if not sales.

Nintendo is definitely getting DLC right. God knows why they took so long to jump on the bandwagon. The Mario Kart 8 DLC is some of the best I've ever bought.