This is definately a huge test for nintendo. If they do have online play for both games and others then they are serious about trying to get hardcore gamers back becuase hardcore gamers love co-op and competition, if they dont. Then it means that they're relying on 3rd party support to satify the hardcore gamers while they make games for fans and casual gamers.

why 360? sure the online is better but you have to pay while the PS3 is free. you could be buying more games with that money. honestly id pick PS3 then the Wii.

the only way to measure to truly prove which is powerful over another is a game looks better over each console for exacption Batman: Arkham City/ Armored Edition,

I posted this on June 5th before I knew they wanted to only show launch games and to make sure nobody copy's.

aw okay

i highly doubt that

well theres no other reason but that seeing as they never made a game based around it, and i never seen it in stores. nor any advertisements or news about it.

They didn't show much games, they showed lots of games we already knew off and only some unknown games

I'm really sad now...I'm just hoping Nintendo proves us wrong later.

You do know they did that just so People wont rip off their game ideas. do you recall the fan reaction on just mentioning Super Smash Bros. last E3? then few months later, Sony makes a Super Smash Bros. clone.

I'm sorry its a Vitality Sensor, here's a video about it shown on E3 2009 Apparenty it was just a trick to fool around with the companies that copy Nintnedo such as Sony.

Personally, I think every conference had it's ups and downs. Microsoft did strt out strong with it's two franchises, Halo and Gears of War but then they made the biggest deal over pointless things that the other consoles could do, internet and music(I'm aware the Wii can't do music but still) not only that but they were wasting our time with Nike games. which i support but found it extremely boring. then we got ushered, then after that they talked about their glass thing and it was interesting but then i groaned when they were advertising other things which then made me stop watching.
then came Sony's and i thought it was the most decent overall three of them. With God of War, The Last of Us, Beyond, the two Bundles for Assassin's Creed III which im getting for the Wii U it was going to be the best conference cuz it didnt have any downfalls...that is until we get to the Wonderbook. and it all went downhill from there.
Ubisoft is definately the best as there was no major fails like Wonderbook n such mainly the in between Dialogue was a bit annoying but passable. then they had big hits like Rayman Legends, Zombi U, that Avengers game, Far cry 3, Just Dance 4, they were really going all support on the Wii U which is what everyone was wanting to see and they delivered, which is why they were well received.
i skipped EA, next
Nintendo, first off i loved the intro very nice intro and then they started out big with Pikmin 3, then the talked about the 2 Mario games, which i really loved, mainly because I expected NSMB2 but wasn't expecting NSMBU and i remembered everyone whining saying they wanted a Mario game in the Launch so i don't see why people were complaining. Next came the 2 other 3DS games which i was happy to hear more detail about as it was something I've been wanting to hear more of, then after that was the Batman exclusive which after watching videos about the built up to the launch i got excited for it once again. then more Zombi U with a better trailer and i was pleased with it. then came NintendoLand which I'm hoping it'll come with the system and il love it then, however i too was bored when they conitnued on, I wasn't mad but more bored. then when the conference as over i was really skepical as Nintendo always ended with epic trailers. It was til after the E3 i heard Retro told Reggie to not show the Secret game and stall, so yeah i think that ruined their momentum as i was expecting epic trailers as always

The leaked specs are stating it's 6x more powerful than the Xbox 360, that's 2-4x more powerful than the Wii U.

then again, perhaps it was leaked on purpose to scare the competition. Remember how Nintendo let out about the Heart Sensor on purpose to trick the people who usually copy them. Sadly Ubisoft took the bait.

Interesting.... does anyone know whose copyright did they infringe upon?

Heres a full explanation about it.

They can buy there franchises but Rare is not the same anymore.

Have they been doing anything Recent? the only time ive heard of rareware is that Banjo Kazooie game that was a disatster. Things went bad as soon as they were bought.

Well it was just a though seeing as they have Retro Studios doing a amazing job on Donkey Kong Country, Metroid Prime and maybe Mario Kart 7. and hopefully that secret Project which is possibly  Star Fox/Metroid Fusion Saga. Speaking of which i think SEGA should just become 2nd Party to Nintendo. theyre not really doing anything but Sonic which is not bad now seeing as they finally got it right but they seem to have a nack for making a killer F-Zero Game

Not really necessary due to the fact that pretty much all old Rare employees left.

Yes but it would be nice to bring back some N64 games like that Banjo Kazooie and give it a proper sequel.

If the Xbox 360 is banned and Microsoft loses money, does anyone else wanna tell Nintendo that they should buy back Rareware?

Here's the Neogaf rumors

http://www.neogaf.co...=477686&page=76

If EA is going to treat Nintendo bad I'm not shocked Peter Moore had something to do with it, he was the CEO of Sega and Microsoft and he gave little support for sports games for Wii, sometimes I feel third party's hate Nintendo fans and are money, I just want the Wii U to get as much good third party support as the PS4 and 720 will get, I hope the rumor is fake though but if it is real the postive part about it is the Wii U was able to handle a big third party game that is also coming to the PS4 and 720.

I also remember that rumor of the "Wii Entertainment System" that was shown at Neogaf, turned out it was fake obviously.

Like anyone cares what EA says. I heard even Valve(the people that made Half-Life and Portal) are supporting the Wii U. so yeah Wii it.

that is a possibility, maybe they didnt epect such a huge reaction from just saying they're going to begin working on it, that'd they felt they could use some extra hands to make some decent progress.

I don't really care for EA that much but if it's EA than it could mean a lot more, I know Sony had to convice third party's to develop on the PS3 in 2006-2008, Nintendo said in July 2011 that they will pay to make sure the Wii U gets great third party support, I hope they will do that and I know I shouldn't believe every Neogaf rumor but it does scare me that third party's might not have faith in the Wii U but already have faith in the PS4 and 720, I know Nintendo will have to convice third party's that the Wii U is the right system to develop for.

I seem to rememeber a rumor or a quote a while back about Nintendo giving very few Third Parties a demo of the Wii U so they can see how it is. i think they haven't seen the Wii U up close which is why they arent going to until they see if its worth making it. Which means that Nintendo doesn't want their help in thrid party but its optional. so while EA isint gonna support, Nintendo is one step ahead on picking the companies it trusts on making games for it. oh yeah i think SEGA said how very interested they were on the Wii u but didnt get a demo then weeks later they got a demo and then the Sonic & All Stars Racing is going to be ported. so yeah its nice to see Nintendo letting compnies try it and being careful on whose getting a demo of it so the gamepad isint copied *cough*Sony*Cough*

First off why do you care what EA says? Everyone don't like them, the only game they have that's good id Dead Space. now as for Third Party. I'm sure theres tons as i heard SEGA, Ubisoft, Komani and other well known Companies are extremely interested in the system and are brainstorming ideas on how to use it for their games.

I'm of course getting the Wii U and I'm also getting the PS4 but I hate hearing "LOL NINTENDO NEVER GETS THIRD PARTY SUPPORT!" or devs saying "sorry, we can't bring it to Wii U because..." and say some stupid excuse, I want to play these games on a Nintendo console, why does Nintendo get the bashing and dissapointment while Sony and Microsoft get the love, I feel like third party's forgot if it wasn't for Nintendo they would not be where they are at now, Nintendo brought back gaming.

umm im sorry but i think you forgot to tell them about the 3DS as it has games coming exclusively on there that are kick ass.
Resident Evil: Revelations
Castlevania LoS-Mirror of Fate
Epic Mickey
Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance
Project X Zone.
and for the Wii U
Zombi U
Rayman Legends
i'd name more but nintendo won't talk til the games are out and about

I'm going to take a while assumption and say that ech of the three consoles are gonna be very different in terms of each other making eaone one unique and have their own identidy. this is where i think the multiplatform games are gonna be rare as each system has their own gimmick.

The Wii U will focus on connectivity and classic gameplay mixed with new ways to play such as touch screen gyroscope and such. while the games wont be focused on graphics like the others, there will be more ideas of gameplay and content due to Nintendo being more open in terms of ideas like for ex. Achievements are optional to the developers instead of being a requirement. Third parties will still be able to have their games look just as good as the other ports since the Wii U will be just as powerful as any other console it's just that its not important to them.

The PS4 will have no gimmicks and solely be marketed as a Graphics machine. Where all their games are like Final Fantasy CGI movie. When i heard that theyre only cared about being the best i instantly thought that they were gonna try to make the most powerfulest console. meaning the games will have more detail in the background and such and that gameplay is the last thing they are gonna be working on. which is sad, but i guess graphics whore are gonna be pleased. And well cool, we have the fun console, now we have a console that makes beautiful settings and scenery.

The Xbox 720 will be based around the Kinect 2.0 and Virtual Reality like the Virtual Boy but done right. meaning futuristic googles, you need a large space and with the kinect working too you have to move around or use body language which is very gimmicky and its really a mixed bag.