Wii will most surely be closer to the 720 and PS4 than the Wii is to the current 360 and PS3.

The problem with the Wii is it's ~DX7 GPU didn't have programmable shaders and it didn't have a multi-core CPU which made it extremely hard to scale games down to the system. Next gen though, all the systems will have multi-core CPUs and it'll more than likely come down to WiiU having a DX10.1 GPU while the PS4/720 will end up with a DX11 GPU. We'll have to wait until all the systems are out to see how big of a gap there is between the WiiU and the 720/PS4.

So really in the end, the Wii U should be able to receive better port support. By mid generation (next gen) games running on PS4 and 720 boxes at 1080p and 60FPS can get downscaled to 720p@30fps for wiiu. How good the support is depends on how good a job Nintendo does catering third parties and how well Wii U sells before PS4/720 are released and after.

The gap next gen will be more similar to PS2-GC-Xbox than Wii-360-PS3.

I have no doubt Wii U will get next gen ports since the industry has become so multiplat-dependent. What i'm worried about is how well will devs take advantage of the Wii U tablet. That thing has so much damn potential for gaming it would be an outright shame if it isn't taken as much advantage of as possible.

I'm optimistic that it'll end well though because the tablet isn't a completely new controller like Wii-remote was. It's a familiar dual analog with a screen and other enhancements.

sorry but wiiu runs on 1080p not 720

Games built FOR the Wii-U will run at 1080P such as first party and 3rd party exclusives.
But since MS and Sony will be launching after Wii U, their consoles will be more powerful than Wii U (though a smaller gap than this gen).

So games built for 720 or PS4 and ported to the Wii-U will have to be down-scaled for Wii-U since it won't handle the exact same things those consoles can. You know, kinda like games that can run on PC this gen are down-scaled so they can run on PS360?

Why does no one seem to understand what I'm saying?

i really doubt that they'll need to down scale them selves in order to run the multi plats

You are right that GCN and those older consoles was the most powerful then but even if Nintendo puts in a really fast processor and gpu. Sony and Microsoft won't wanna lose their style (having stronger consoles than nintendo and then say that nintendo is for kids) so I think they will have stronger consoles than Nintendo. THe Wii u is rumored to use a a Radeon HD 4770 which a three year old gpu and was the mid range card. they also use a tri core processor which isn't that fast. The ps3 used the fastest gpu in the world you could find (When they builded it) a gtx 7800. So if sony uses a quad core processor which is standard in desktops since long and maybe just a mid range 2012 gpu then there will be the same gap in power just like with the wii and the ps3. *Copy paste the same thing about the xbox 720.

you do realize that those companies said that they would be over powering their consoles because lots of people lost lots of money

Can you name a few other mistakes? I'm curious as to what they may be.

EDIT: ForeverOrnamentS (FOS) told me that Sakurai is currently putting final touches to the plot for a new Story Mode and will be presenting the outline soon to the small group of people that will begin Smash 4 development on August 4th. I asked her why she keeps trying to tell everyone about Smash 4's progress (mostly the characters) and she said it was "All for fun."

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if what u say is true then what about the differences in the console and handheld versions

something that i thought of is glow in the dark pikmin for night levels

You'll still have the capability to use the Wii remote motion controls including Wii motion plus. I'm not surprised Pikimin jumped a generation. You simply have to look at how Nintendo approaches development and how their developers think, especially in the case of Iwata and Miyamoto. During development Miyamoto will completely throw out a game if it doesn't meet his expectations or he wants to add new ideas and those ideas conflict with the current version of the game. This can be seen as the result of the new art direction found in Skyward Sword motivated in part after adding Wii motion plus functionality. With Pikimin it may simply be that the Wii's hardware wasn't capable enough to do what Nintendo wanted thus why this game was continually stuck in development. Now as a plus Pikimin serves as a strong launch title that won't over shadow 3D party titles. Even if those 3d party titles are practically no more than slightly enhanced ports simply because the art direction of Pikimin won't compete directly with the same audience.

actually they were going to do it on wii but then moved it to wiiu because of its capabilities

Personally here is my idea for new pikmin in pikmin 3

Green pikmin: Green pikmin are the same size of Red,Blue and Yellow but with one difference,they can make flowers that can catapult Olimar to the other side of a gap and they can plant seeds that can plant flowers to fight enemies.

Pink Pikmin: Pink pikmin are simmler to white pikmin expect they can use weather (To create sun rays and thunder at random but they can also survive ice attacks.

Black pikmin: They are the most powerful pikmin.They can stop the enemies from moving so the purple can attack and they can survive in dark areas where all other pikmin die

i like ur ideas but maybe a glow in the dark pikmin too
this game needs more elements to make it good too

im going for chipvader

I had heard that Assault was more "starfox-like". Adventures sure wasn't. They just threw fox into an action game with dinosaurs and called it Starfox.

thats actually true
they originally planned a new ip but threw fox into the mix

co-op campaign and deep story with plenty of replay value (never really play any sf games fully)

That's an alright idea, though what about the people that are playing with Wiimotes?

Also I really hope they go back to the old control scheme without the Manuel and Automatic business.

manuel is the old control scheme from what ive seen

a lot of companies r going to use it so 2 players can do different things in the same game at once
i cant wait to see that in more games

well ign is hiring if you guys want to change it http://ign.theresumator.com/apply

what wii know so far is that it will have more social networking features (http://www.officialn...ial-networking/) and easy drop in and drop out to online games with friends (according to early reports before e3 but thats unconfirmed) we also know that the third parties will work on the network there own extent making it unique to each game and no more friend codes and might get something equivalent to gamer tags (ubisoft)

post what u think and if i didnt leave a source or anything its basic info but aren't completely confirmed
for now its all just speculation

i defiantly didnt see this coming
things just got a little more interesting

I don't know if that would be such a good idea. If you live in a place like Hawaii the temperature stays about 75 degrees year round, so you would never make it in that cave. And it probably just annoy people if they have to wait several months to get in that cave. Especially people who rent games.

im sure it'll similarly pokemon black and whites season system

I am personally hoping for something like the Xbox 360 live set up. I like the whole display and gamer tags. If they don't get rid of friend codes, it will not be a good thing :/ Mostly because everyone hates them. They need to set it up like the 3DS friends list. That is what I am hoping

well im hoping in an update with the 3ds they merge ur wii u account with ur 3ds account

Nintendo said it would be flexible, but I doubt friend codes are going anywhere. What I would like to see though is a better eShop

u mean like the 1 in the 3ds
they'll probably have a parental control that u can access from anywhere so u can regulate you're kid's access to features and look at their friends profiles

this is purely awesome, i wonder how the competition will react
this is going to be one awesome gen

Are you comparing Mario rpg to Final Fantacy, metroid to halo get serious. Both are legendary games but neither are on a mature level as others in their categories.

no, i wasnt making that comparison, but i have a question, what makes you think metroid isnt as mature as halo?
and the mario rpg isnt necessarily meant to be mature, it's meant to be humorous and fun, im just saying the climax of the rpg games get serious

Just Ideas guys. Being A loyal Nintedo fan since nes. Just wanna see something different from Nintedo. Their franchise titles are the only ones that make them stand out. I doubt if they'll bring another franchise character to their roster just to make a new mature franchise. So why not imagine one of their current franchise characters in a more mature setting. Graphics aren't going to matter for next generation systems because, let's face it, good graphics are good graphics. It
will come down to the details and the interactions of the games. Innovatively, Nintendo
has already won that fight with it's current wii
controllers and the upcoming wii u controller(it can't be out done by Microsoft or Sony). Third-party companies will flood the wii u with mature titles but will nintendo lead the way or will they be the ones supplying only the casual(sometimes kiddy) gamers.

you clearly havent played any metroid or zelda games
even mario rpg games tend to get serious at their climax

3ds forum, another wii u forum, and a conduit forum

this is sad
http://www.g4tv.com/...k-28-fbfantrack

it wont die
im from there too but i plan on going to both sites often

they weren't keeping this a secret at all
in an interview right when it ended they said it was running in the 360/ps3 engine