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#1 Zinix

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Posted 18 June 2013 - 07:41 AM

 

The PS4 is cheaper than I thought.

 

 

 

The difference is small, and I don’t really need to worry about it. When you come right down to it, the PS4 is cheap (laughs). Though, I wonder about the inclusion of the camera…

 

 

 

 

Considering that the camera is so widespread in smartphones and tablets, I think it’ll build up to be the norm.

 

 

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Interesting though we already knew this. 


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Posted 18 June 2013 - 07:45 AM

Who is Kojima?

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Posted 18 June 2013 - 07:59 AM

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One of the greatest creative minds to ever exist in gaming. The father of Metal Gear.



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Posted 18 June 2013 - 10:14 AM

I'm sorry, but I don't really buy that for a second. 


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Posted 18 June 2013 - 10:16 AM

Wasn't the PS4 the more powerful console anyway?


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Posted 18 June 2013 - 10:49 AM

Kojima probably banked on Microsoft's previous success and the inclusion of Kinect.

 

Probably thought like most of us did, that Sony wouldn't and couldn't risk creating a monster console.

 

But they did.  The GPU portion itself is 50% more powerful.  It's actually a pretty major step up from X1.

 

Also, the RAM setup.  For many games, it will be too much bandwidth for Xbox to overcome.

 

X1 and Wii U games will likely continue to look very similar, while PS4 looks better than both as time progresses.

 

 

 

For a developer like Kojima, he would no doubt have put his most effort in where he thought the market would be. PS4 was predicted to be super expensive.

 

I'm thinking he developed for the X1, will port to PS4 and doesn't want to worry about developing "up" to PS4 spec.

 

Also, MGS didn't look much like a next gen game.  Perhaps the result of trying to bridge to to last gen as well.

 

 

 

He specifically calls out the camera, so I'm guessing a good bit of his development went toward its inclusion.  

 

but now that MS has shown their true colors and wants to abuse consumers of its products and service, no one wants x1.  

 

His quotes sound a little concerned. I'm actually surprised to read such open, unguarded thoughts.


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Posted 18 June 2013 - 10:56 AM

PS4 is going to make my life. A powerful, non extremely expensive game console that is about the games. Too bad online isn't free :( guess ill stick to PC for online games like Battlefield and Destiny.

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Posted 18 June 2013 - 08:46 PM

PS4 for the win at the moment, I just hope Sony don't pull a U-Turn..........



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Posted 19 June 2013 - 12:52 AM

PS4 is going to make my life. A powerful, non extremely expensive game console that is about the games. Too bad online isn't free :( guess ill stick to PC for online games like Battlefield and Destiny.

Destiny is console exclusive, you could buy it on PS3 though.



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Posted 19 June 2013 - 11:38 PM

PS4 is going to make my life. A powerful, non extremely expensive game console that is about the games. Too bad online isn't free :( guess ill stick to PC for online games like Battlefield and Destiny.

Playstation Plus is totally worth having, 17.99 every 3 months, thats not bad at all, and all the great content you get with it (Free retail games, discounts, exclusives). PSN is a good online service and imo this will make it even better because im hoping it means dedicated servers which will make the online experience even better.



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Posted 20 June 2013 - 03:48 AM

Playstation Plus is totally worth having, 17.99 every 3 months, thats not bad at all, and all the great content you get with it (Free retail games, discounts, exclusives). PSN is a good online service and imo this will make it even better because im hoping it means dedicated servers which will make the online experience even better.

Why should I pay for online, when I have a great PC and I don't have to? I am not going to spen 70 dollars a year to pay for something I can have for free! Yeah, I might have to skip games like Killzone but I was never a big fan anyways. I'm just going to buy the exclusives on my PS4 and Wii U, an buy everything else when it gets a sale on steam.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 04:15 AM

I'm sorry, but I don't really buy that for a second.


I do. Ps4 is around 50% more powerful than xbone.

Thats really... Nothing. Kojimas been around for some time. Hes been through all the biggest power shifts in gaming history.

50% is nothing, typical generation jumps are around 20-30x average performance jumps. Some of the ones hes been through have been absolutely massive. Like psx/n64 to ps2/cube. Some of the performance jumps reached 10 orders of magnitude (100x) greater than the previous gen.

50% more is nothing. 2x more is nothing.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 08:54 AM

I do. Ps4 is around 50% more powerful than xbone.

Thats really... Nothing. Kojimas been around for some time. Hes been through all the biggest power shifts in gaming history.

50% is nothing, typical generation jumps are around 20-30x average performance jumps. Some of the ones hes been through have been absolutely massive. Like psx/n64 to ps2/cube. Some of the performance jumps reached 10 orders of magnitude (100x) greater than the previous gen.

50% more is nothing. 2x more is nothing.

I'm no tech geek so I can't say one way or another. :P


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 04:26 PM

sounds like someone wants a little attention



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Posted 21 June 2013 - 05:38 PM

Who is Kojima?

 

 

Epic.  But totally reflects reality of today's gaming market.  Metal Gear's relevance is fading pretty steadily.


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