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[Aiddon]

You don't seem to get this. Coming from someone who pre-ordered Arkham Origins, and is planning to cancel that pre-order:

First off, you CAN change what a company is doing. We did it to get Deathstroke pre-order DLC. We did it to get Smash Bros. Stremed at EVO, and people did it with the Xbone 180. The reason this keeps happening is because most western third party developers act like PS3 and Xbox fanboys, and think all Nintendo fans are not only mentally challenged, but not real gamers. therefore they think 1. Let's just eff them over because eff Nintendo (looking at you EA) 2. They probably won't even notice, they're not "real" gamers.

So, if we keep buy these "eff you" games, then guess what? As far as they're concerned oh look we were right! Stupid Nintendo fans didn't even notice, and payed the same amount of money for an inferior version of the game! Ha ha ha, stupid Nintendo fans!

Now people aren't stupid enough to buy these games, so they don't sell. So then they say, "we're not doing ____ because our games aren't selling well."

But the games aren't selling well because of their mentality I just explained.

And, despite what they like say, they will make profit if the game is good. For example Arkham City was ported properly, and guess what? They made profit. I'm not sure how true these figures are, but apparentyl, it didn't cost them more than 900k to port that game to Wii U. They have 160k sales. Do the math, and that means they only needed to make 5.625 Dollars per game they are selling them for sixty.

Go figure.

All in all, not buying the game is still the better option in my opinion. there will be other fun games, from people who aren't total bucking d***heads, also I'd rather not be a slave to those total bucking d***heads and support them in the bashing of my, and others' intelligence.

I hope you understand now.

 

It's the vicious cycle once again. Nintendo owners won't buy 3rd party titles due to knowing said parties screwed them out of content in one way or another and 3rd parties then proceed to put even LESS effort into supporting Nintendo because their halfassed efforts were called out on being halfassed by a lack of sales. It's pathetic on the part of 3rd parties and the fact that they try to play innocent victim, blaming Nintendo and its fans, is disgusting. The reason Nintendo sells so damn well is its constant record of quality. 3rd parties don't release good games or advertise the Nintendo version badly, so of COURSE they're going to fail. Nintendo knows that, but 3rd parties don't. And I'm wondering if Western 3rd parties are legitimately trying to kill Nintendo via software starvation because they're afraid of them getting even MORE powerful or that 3rd parties are just that bloody stupid.

[Poptartboy]

You don't seem to get this. Coming from someone who pre-ordered Arkham Origins, and is planning to cancel that pre-order:
First off, you CAN change what a company is doing. We did it to get Deathstroke pre-order DLC. We did it to get Smash Bros. Stremed at EVO, and people did it with the Xbone 180. The reason this keeps happening is because most western third party developers act like PS3 and Xbox fanboys, and think all Nintendo fans are not only mentally challenged, but not real gamers. therefore they think 1. Let's just eff them over because eff Nintendo (looking at you EA) 2. They probably won't even notice, they're not "real" gamers.
So, if we keep buy these "eff you" games, then guess what? As far as they're concerned oh look we were right! Stupid Nintendo fans didn't even notice, and payed the same amount of money for an inferior version of the game! Ha ha ha, stupid Nintendo fans!
Now people aren't stupid enough to buy these games, so they don't sell. So then they say, "we're not doing ____ because our games aren't selling well."
But the games aren't selling well because of their mentality I just explained.
And, despite what they like say, they will make profit if the game is good. For example Arkham City was ported properly, and guess what? They made profit. I'm not sure how true these figures are, but apparentyl, it didn't cost them more than 900k to port that game to Wii U. They have 160k sales. Do the math, and that means they only needed to make 5.625 Dollars per game they are selling them for sixty.
Go figure.
All in all, not buying the game is still the better option in my opinion. there will be other fun games, from people who aren't total bucking d***heads, also I'd rather not be a slave to those total bucking d***heads and support them in the bashing of my, and others' intelligence.
I hope you understand now.

If you really think that is going to make any difference then good luck to ya. You'd just better hope the Wii U really does take off because otherwise you'll be playing nothing but Nintendo games.

[KeptMyWiiUAndLeftTheForums]

It's the vicious cycle once again. Nintendo owners won't buy 3rd party titles due to knowing said parties screwed them out of content in one way or another and 3rd parties then proceed to put even LESS effort into supporting Nintendo because their halfassed efforts were called out on being halfassed by a lack of sales. It's pathetic on the part of 3rd parties and the fact that they try to play innocent victim, blaming Nintendo and its fans, is disgusting. The reason Nintendo sells so damn well is its constant record of quality. 3rd parties don't release good games or advertise the Nintendo version badly, so of COURSE they're going to fail. Nintendo knows that, but 3rd parties don't. And I'm wondering if Western 3rd parties are legitimately trying to kill Nintendo via software starvation because they're afraid of them getting even MORE powerful or that 3rd parties are just that bloody stupid.

This is kinda of a concise version of what I was trying to say

 

 

If you really think that is going to make any difference then good luck to ya. You'd just better hope the Wii U really does take off because otherwise you'll be playing nothing but Nintendo games.

1) I DO think it has the potential to make a difference, we just need more people to make it so. The only time companies change the stupid things they do is when the press is so bad it could damage them more by continuing their trend.

 

2) Then it would be just like the Wii and 3DS. You make it sound like that's a bad thing. In a way it is, yes because you have to wait longer for each big game, but Nintendo still unarguably makes some of the best games in the world. They are untouchable in terms of standard of quality.

If "all" I can play is LoZ, Mario, Smash, MK, Metroid, and many other classic franchises, then I'll still be happy. Is it ideal? no. But it'll do.

[Poptartboy]

This is kinda of a concise version of what I was trying to say


1) I DO think it has the potential to make a difference, we just need more people to make it so. The only time companies change the stupid things they do is when the press is so bad it could damage them more by continuing their trend.

2) Then it would be just like the Wii and 3DS. You make it sound like that's a bad thing. In a way it is, yes because you have to wait longer for each big game, but Nintendo still unarguably makes some of the best games in the world. They are untouchable in terms of standard of quality.
If "all" I can play is LoZ, Mario, Smash, MK, Metroid, and many other classic franchises, then I'll still be happy. Is it ideal? no. But it'll do.

It's not a bad thing. I have a Wii U which is my main console and I want Nintendo games which are my favourite games.

But you're all complaining about there being no 3rd party games, yet won't buy the ones there are because of missing features that it seems most don't really care about, not buying it out of principle.

I've said all along, if you're wanting to play online then it matters. If you don't care then that's ridiculous.

You mention Xbox One, but here's the thing. If no one buys it that's a big problem for Microsoft. Hence changing to suit their consumers.
If no one buys Batman for Wii U then Warner Bros use that as evidence to cut support. I mean come on, this is obvious.

If you're fine with a Nintendo only console (I mean this by the way, I'm not being sarcastic or anything) then it's fine to not buy them. But if you're one of the complainers about 3rd party games yet still won't buy them, then you're just being stupid.

[Aiddon]

 

2) Then it would be just like the Wii and 3DS. You make it sound like that's a bad thing. In a way it is, yes because you have to wait longer for each big game, but Nintendo still unarguably makes some of the best games in the world. They are untouchable in terms of standard of quality.

If "all" I can play is LoZ, Mario, Smash, MK, Metroid, and many other classic franchises, then I'll still be happy. Is it ideal? no. But it'll do.

 

That is the funny thing with the 3DS; Nintendo has pretty much gotten to the point where their handheld division is self-sustaining with the occasional Eastern 3rd party title like Shin Megami Tensei IV. Western 3rd parties haven't made jack for the system despite the fact that it has an enormous user base, thus meaning its a gold mine they're blatantly ignoring. It's almost like what happened was they were too embarrassed to just admit they were wrong in writing the 3DS off so they chose to ignore the elephant in the room rather than eat crow. The fact that they ignore such a money machine is completely stupid.

[Poptartboy]

That is the funny thing with the 3DS; Nintendo has pretty much gotten to the point where their handheld division is self-sustaining with the occasional Eastern 3rd party title like Shin Megami Tensei IV. Western 3rd parties haven't made jack for the system despite the fact that it has an enormous user base, thus meaning its a gold mine they're blatantly ignoring. It's almost like what happened was they were too embarrassed to just admit they were wrong in writing the 3DS off so they chose to ignore the elephant in the room rather than eat crow. The fact that they ignore such a money machine is completely stupid.

I don't think the games they are so focused on making fit well with 3DS and handheld games.
Think of the best 3DS games like Luigi's Mansion 2, Mario and Luigi, and Animal Crossing. No one else makes games with that kind of magic. Either they're too scared to compete or they just won't take a risk on something creative for the platform.

[Aiddon]

I don't think the games they are so focused on making fit well with 3DS and handheld games.
Think of the best 3DS games like Luigi's Mansion 2, Mario and Luigi, and Animal Crossing. No one else makes games with that kind of magic. Either they're too scared to compete or they just won't take a risk on something creative for the platform.

Regardless, you'd think they'd do SOMETHING, ANYTHING with it due to its high userbase. Its either idiocy or ego. Maybe both.

[Nollog]

Regardless, you'd think they'd do SOMETHING, ANYTHING with it due to its high userbase. Its either idiocy or ego. Maybe both.

http://www.nintendo....sales_e1306.pdf
32,480,000 potential customers isn't enough.

[KeptMyWiiUAndLeftTheForums]

It's not a bad thing. I have a Wii U which is my main console and I want Nintendo games which are my favourite games.

But you're all complaining about there being no 3rd party games, yet won't buy the ones there are because of missing features that it seems most don't really care about, not buying it out of principle.

I've said all along, if you're wanting to play online then it matters. If you don't care then that's ridiculous.

You mention Xbox One, but here's the thing. If no one buys it that's a big problem for Microsoft. Hence changing to suit their consumers.
If no one buys Batman for Wii U then Warner Bros use that as evidence to cut support. I mean come on, this is obvious.

If you're fine with a Nintendo only console (I mean this by the way, I'm not being sarcastic or anything) then it's fine to not buy them. But if you're one of the complainers about 3rd party games yet still won't buy them, then you're just being stupid.

It's not stupid. Like I said it's about two things. 1) The principle of not being ripped off 2) Not verifying the companies' beliefs that we're idiots because of the system we play.

Yes I'm aware that this is a lose lose situation.

I don't think the games they are so focused on making fit well with 3DS and handheld games.
Think of the best 3DS games like Luigi's Mansion 2, Mario and Luigi, and Animal Crossing. No one else makes games with that kind of magic. Either they're too scared to compete or they just won't take a risk on something creative for the platform.

Also, no way. They're not scared this is the same "eff Nintendo" mentality. Every company's main purpose is to make money (except for charities and stuff). The 3DS, as Aiddon said is a gold mine. If they make a good game, they're practically guaranteed to make big bucks, thus fulfilling their main gone. Unfortunately, dickheads' douchiness always get in the way of their thinking.