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#1 Mushlikeahusky1

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 01:06 PM

If the Wonderful 101 sells go south could this break up the relationship Nintendo and Platinum have?

 

1. Nintendo only shipped 30 thousand copies in Japan... This game should be selling over 500 thousand in japan easy. That is a very bad sign.

 

2.If TW101 sales dont go anywhere I could see the game going to Xbox One or PS4 as a Directors cut in the future... Unless Nintendo owns the rights. Its not that far fetched. Lets say people who have an Xbox or PS4 want to play TW101 but dont have a Wii U. If this happened many will go get it due to how good Nintendo fans said it was or just in spite of Nintendo losing exclusive rights.

And with the Directors Cut tag that would mean enhanced controls added content and more features. 

 

3.If Platinum gets mad enough Bayonetta 2 could lose its exclusive rights and be announced at next E3 that it will be multi plat-form

its not to late for this to happen considering that Bayonetta 2 is no where near the release.

 

Nintendo has to get their 3rd party games to sell better or they wont be getting any support period Splinter Cells community only has 3000 people in it right now and that is a flat out joke considering how beastly good it is. *If you haven't got Blacklist yet do it its amazing*

Gamepad integration automatically upgrades every game and that is why I chose to get all of Ubisofts titles on this console. 

 

I guess it might really be true that people get Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games but I would love to have my cake and eat it to.

 

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 01:08 PM

3.If Platinum gets mad enough Bayonetta 2 could lose its exclusive rights and be announced at next E3 that it will be multi plat-form

its not to late for this to happen considering that Bayonetta 2 is no where near the release.

 

How can it go multiplatform if Nintendo is funding the game?



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 01:26 PM

W101 is really a niche game, so I wouldn't expect it to be a system seller or a even a massive seller on it's own (especially with a low install base). 



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 01:28 PM

Nintendo could cut funding on Bayonetta 2 if they tried to do that, and we all know Sega won't fund it. I see it as Nintendo being weary that's all.



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 01:33 PM

I doubt Platinum games will fall out with Nintendo over their game not selling well enough. It would be Platinum's fault any if the game doesn't sell well, releasing it on a system that doesn't have a massive install base. 


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Posted 22 August 2013 - 02:48 PM

I doubt Platinum games will fall out with Nintendo over their game not selling well enough. It would be Platinum's fault any if the game doesn't sell well, releasing it on a system that doesn't have a massive install base. 

not everyone that owns a wiiu may want w101 though ?



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 03:54 PM

I would think that a good portion of owners would want it- isn't this part of the reason you buy a system, for it's exclusives?  I would guess that around 10 percent of Wii U owners would buy it.  That would put sales at 360k..... 

 

 

not everyone that owns a wiiu may want w101 though ?



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 03:56 PM

I don't think it will sully relations ships between platinum and ninty.

Even if it doesn't get the best sales I doubt it will ever see release on another console (I'm actually pretty sure ninty own tw101 ip so they just got platinum to dev it for them.... sorta like rare and donkey kong)


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Posted 22 August 2013 - 03:58 PM

Have you seen the eshop sales in Japan?
They can always ship more discs if they sell out.
As we all know, withholding stock is a great way to generate more hype.

"oh no it's sold out everywhere! it must be awesome!!"
*buys on eshop*

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 04:16 PM

Aren't you aware that digital copys sell more than physical? Its been happening all year, and Nintendo is aware of it. Especially the 3DS games.


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Posted 22 August 2013 - 05:27 PM

Oh, look, another "rant". 

 

This is only, like, the fourth one this week.


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Posted 22 August 2013 - 09:21 PM

i doubt low sales affect the relationship between platinum and ninty; platinum's titles are hardly best sellers, which is sad cause they are great.

 

Bayonetta 2 wont go multi-plattform for reasons we already (should) know.

 

As stated before, it could work as a marketing strategy to generate hype/rise the digital downloads. Also a lot of wii u owners are still on the fence because of lolreviews and whatnot.



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 08:27 AM

not everyone that owns a wiiu may want w101 though ?

So?


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Posted 25 August 2013 - 05:29 PM

So?

 

Nintendo is the trademark owner (Intellectual Property for those who are PC) of The Wonderful 101.


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Posted 26 August 2013 - 01:51 AM

If the Wonderful 101 sells go south could this break up the relationship Nintendo and Platinum have?

1. Nintendo only shipped 30 thousand copies in Japan... This game should be selling over 500 thousand in japan easy. That is a very bad sign.

2.If TW101 sales dont go anywhere I could see the game going to Xbox One or PS4 as a Directors cut in the future... Unless Nintendo owns the rights. Its not that far fetched. Lets say people who have an Xbox or PS4 want to play TW101 but dont have a Wii U. If this happened many will go get it due to how good Nintendo fans said it was or just in spite of Nintendo losing exclusive rights.
And with the Directors Cut tag that would mean enhanced controls added content and more features.

3.If Platinum gets mad enough Bayonetta 2 could lose its exclusive rights and be announced at next E3 that it will be multi plat-form
its not to late for this to happen considering that Bayonetta 2 is no where near the release.

Nintendo has to get their 3rd party games to sell better or they wont be getting any support period Splinter Cells community only has 3000 people in it right now and that is a flat out joke considering how beastly good it is. *If you haven't got Blacklist yet do it its amazing*
Gamepad integration automatically upgrades every game and that is why I chose to get all of Ubisofts titles on this console.

I guess it might really be true that people get Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games but I would love to have my cake and eat it to.

*Rant Over*

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These games are only getting made because Nintendo is publishing them. Bayonetta 2 would be multiplatform but no one was interested in publishing so Nintendo picked it up.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 02:13 AM

These games are only getting made because Nintendo is publishing them. Bayonetta 2 would be multiplatform but no one was interested in publishing so Nintendo picked it up.

 

Indeed, Bayonetta 2 would not exist (according to Platinum) if Nintendo had not stepped in, if I recall. So personally I would un-rant and calm down.

 

If Bayonetta turns out to be mediocre, then what?  



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Posted 26 August 2013 - 04:33 AM

Nintendo is the trademark owner (Intellectual Property for those who are PC) of The Wonderful 101.

That's not Nintendo's fault if everybody doesn't want TW101.


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#18 Mushlikeahusky1

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 07:23 AM

First dominoe has fell tw101 selling poorly in japan.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 08:11 AM

First dominoe has fell tw101 selling poorly in japan.


Ha, its impossible to sell well. If japan sold every single copy in the country, theyd have 0.03 million units sold.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 01:48 PM

Ihis game is quirky as all get-out.

 

It's weird, it's crazy, it bucks any and all gaming trends.

 

And it ridiculously fun.

And very well crafted.

And offers tight, precise gameplay controls, while appearing to be a wild free for all.

 

In short, they nailed it with this one.

 

But it was never going to be a system seller.  Or a gigantic sales buster.

 

It was going to make a mark.  And it was going to offer gamers tons of fun.

 

There could be many reasons why Nintendo produced only a certain number of physical media for Japan:

 

1) Number of consoles installed in the country - then sales projections based on percentage.

2) Create a "cult" following by artificially limiting availability - thus having people craving anything Platinum related - ie: pent up demand for Bayonetta 2... (and yes, I am aware of the demographic differences).

3) An internally identified trend toward digital downloads versus physical media - and in Japan, that would seem the most likely.

 

With the eShop, why buy discs unless you really want to have the media? That would also address the loading discrepancies seen in games like Splinter Cell (compared to the PS3 which had the game installed on hard drive). 

 

Lots of possible reasons why Nintendo made this decision. 

 

We don't know what those reasons are.  

But you can bet they aren't going to shoot themselves in the foot.






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