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[Zinix]

 

Comic book fans and superhero movie lovers rejoice! The creators of the upcoming ‘Amazing Spider-Man 2′ elaborated on their spin-off plans on March 12, and revealed how they’d be showcasing fan-favorite villains such as Venom and Sinister Six.

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is still months away from premiering, but the creators of the superhero flick have already got us looking ahead. In an unprecedented move, the Spiderman spin-offs will center around the villains of the comic book world, and the details that director Mark Webb and producer Matt Tolmach have revealed regarding fan-favorites like Venom and Sinister Six will blow your mind.

 

 

Venom: How The ‘Spider-Man’ Villain Will Become A Blockbuster Success

“We’ve been talking about how to make this universe even bigger, and really get underneath the skin of all the incredible characters,” Mark told SFX. “The cinematic possibilities of all these storylines are just magnificent.”

 

http://hollywoodlife...s-sinister-six/

 

 

This movie has potential to be great or really bad. 

[KeptMyWiiUAndLeftTheForums]

Wow. Every time people are like "there are no surprises left" they find more surprises to give away...

[TheUltimateWaddleDee]

Maybe this will make up for the 5 minutes he was in Spiderman 3.

[Azure-Edge]

Anyone else find it funny that nobody is trying to do a big comic book animated show anymore? Seems strange since by and large some of the most critically acclaimed adaptations of comic books have been animated series. I kinda wish they'd go back to giving it a show. A lot of the superhero shows from the 90s were awesome, beginning with Batman the Animated Series. It took itself seriously and took the material seriously, a lot of others followed suit such as X-men and Spiderman. 

[KeptMyWiiUAndLeftTheForums]

Anyone else find it funny that nobody is trying to do a big comic book animated show anymore? Seems strange since by and large some of the most critically acclaimed adaptations of comic books have been animated series. I kinda wish they'd go back to giving it a show. A lot of the superhero shows from the 90s were awesome, beginning with Batman the Animated Series. It took itself seriously and took the material seriously, a lot of others followed suit such as X-men and Spiderman. 

It's really something they need to work on. Their target audience isn't exactly getting younger...

[Azure-Edge]

It's really something they need to work on. Their target audience isn't exactly getting younger...

 

That, and personally I just don't think that blockbuster movies are the best medium for superheroes. There's just too much history and too much....stuff to fit in to a two hour movie and there are examples of this throughout tons of super hero movies. Spiderman 3 was WAY too unfocused with 3 different villains who each could have taken up an entire movie by themselves. The Batman trilogy totally swept Ras al Ghul being immortal with the lazarus pit and Talia was shoehorned in as if she came from a voice, not to mention Catwoman didn't even get enough characterization. Then there's the X-men series which has done a fantastic job of dodging almost every single really awesome story they could do, except for Phoenix which was watered down. Sentinels, Apocalypse and the four horsemen, Mr. Sinister, etc. (To be fair I think a lot of the X-men stuff could be because of budgetary concerns)

 

All in all I just think an animated series can take superhero stuff so much further simply for having way more time to establish the world as well as not having to abide by the redundant Hollywood cliches. (A love interest does NOT need to show up in EVERY DAMN MOVIE!!!!!) Think about it. The most these movies can get away with is 3 hours on their best day. That's 3 hours to establish characters, villains, motives, etc. Now compare that to an animated series of say, 21 episodes in a season. Accounting for commercials you can round down to about twenty three (give or take). That's over eight hours of content. In other words only one season of an animated comic book tv series can have as much run time as the entire Chris Nolan Batman trilogy (give or take).

 

Not to mention animated shows tend to be very good at using their time well, as a matter of simple survival, since they have to essentially put a whole story in to one airing with the exception of the occasional two parter. 

[KeptMyWiiUAndLeftTheForums]

That, and personally I just don't think that blockbuster movies are the best medium for superheroes. There's just too much history and too much....stuff to fit in to a two hour movie and there are examples of this throughout tons of super hero movies. Spiderman 3 was WAY too unfocused with 3 different villains who each could have taken up an entire movie by themselves. The Batman trilogy totally swept Ras al Ghul being immortal with the lazarus pit and Talia was shoehorned in as if she came from a voice, not to mention Catwoman didn't even get enough characterization. Then there's the X-men series which has done a fantastic job of dodging almost every single really awesome story they could do, except for Phoenix which was watered down. Sentinels, Apocalypse and the four horsemen, Mr. Sinister, etc. (To be fair I think a lot of the X-men stuff could be because of budgetary concerns)

 

All in all I just think an animated series can take superhero stuff so much further simply for having way more time to establish the world as well as not having to abide by the redundant Hollywood cliches. (A love interest does NOT need to show up in EVERY DAMN MOVIE!!!!!) Think about it. The most these movies can get away with is 3 hours on their best day. That's 3 hours to establish characters, villains, motives, etc. Now compare that to an animated series of say, 21 episodes in a season. Accounting for commercials you can round down to about twenty three (give or take). That's over eight hours of content. In other words only one season of an animated comic book tv series can have as much run time as the entire Chris Nolan Batman trilogy (give or take).

 

Not to mention animated shows tend to be very good at using their time well, as a matter of simple survival, since they have to essentially put a whole story in to one airing with the exception of the occasional two parter. 

I think that's true for almost any book like media though.Though I can see why it's something you'd especially want for comic book movies A series will always get the details more down pat, and comic books are extremely detail dependent. 

Still I think it's possible to make a good, detailed superhero movie, even if it only covers one ark or something. And of course that ark would have to be pretty close to the beginning of whatever character its center around's history...

But I would also love to see a good comic book tv show popup sometime soon.

[Azure-Edge]

I think that's true for almost any book like media though.Though I can see why it's something you'd especially want for comic book movies A series will always get the details more down pat, and comic books are extremely detail dependent. 

Still I think it's possible to make a good, detailed superhero movie, even if it only covers one ark or something. And of course that ark would have to be pretty close to the beginning of whatever character its center around's history...

But I would also love to see a good comic book tv show popup sometime soon.

 

It's definitely possible, it just doesn't seem to happen. Especially when the movies get padded down with your typical Hollywood stuff. I just think there are a lot of advantages to an animated version. For example since it's animated the only aspect of an actor that matters is the voice. Mark Hamill for so many people is the definitive voice of the Joker, but he'd never be able to play him on the big screen. 

[Chaotix]

If this happens I just hope Topher Grace doesnt play Venom cause his role was awful.

 

I would like to see brock lesnar play as venom.

 

His personally fits the role perfect.

[Hunter]

That, and personally I just don't think that blockbuster movies are the best medium for superheroes. There's just too much history and too much....stuff to fit in to a two hour movie and there are examples of this throughout tons of super hero movies. Spiderman 3 was WAY too unfocused with 3 different villains who each could have taken up an entire movie by themselves. The Batman trilogy totally swept Ras al Ghul being immortal with the lazarus pit and Talia was shoehorned in as if she came from a voice, not to mention Catwoman didn't even get enough characterization. Then there's the X-men series which has done a fantastic job of dodging almost every single really awesome story they could do, except for Phoenix which was watered down. Sentinels, Apocalypse and the four horsemen, Mr. Sinister, etc. (To be fair I think a lot of the X-men stuff could be because of budgetary concerns)

 

All in all I just think an animated series can take superhero stuff so much further simply for having way more time to establish the world as well as not having to abide by the redundant Hollywood cliches. (A love interest does NOT need to show up in EVERY DAMN MOVIE!!!!!) Think about it. The most these movies can get away with is 3 hours on their best day. That's 3 hours to establish characters, villains, motives, etc. Now compare that to an animated series of say, 21 episodes in a season. Accounting for commercials you can round down to about twenty three (give or take). That's over eight hours of content. In other words only one season of an animated comic book tv series can have as much run time as the entire Chris Nolan Batman trilogy (give or take).

 

Not to mention animated shows tend to be very good at using their time well, as a matter of simple survival, since they have to essentially put a whole story in to one airing with the exception of the occasional two parter. 

 

I agree, I think TV is a great medium for comic-book adaptations. Unfortunately, due to budget restraints, it would be difficult to do live action versions of a lot of these adaptations and most cartoons about superheroes (no matter how great the writing is) will really only be watched by kids mostly. I still enjoy the 90s spiderman on netflix on occasion, both for nostalgia and because he is a lot more like the comic book spidey (witty and funny) than any of the movie spidermans have been.

 

The creator of Dredd (if you haven't seen it watch it now) said just before Dredd came out that he thinks TV would be great for Judge Dredd because the character has such a rich back-story and there are so many different themes he wants to explore. That, along with the fact that 18 rated movies (unless made by Tarantino) are generally not hugely successful and Judge Dredd doesn't need to have a huge budget are reasons why I think a TV series of Dredd would be great.

[KeptMyWiiUAndLeftTheForums]

It's definitely possible, it just doesn't seem to happen. Especially when the movies get padded down with your typical Hollywood stuff. I just think there are a lot of advantages to an animated version. For example since it's animated the only aspect of an actor that matters is the voice. Mark Hamill for so many people is the definitive voice of the Joker, but he'd never be able to play him on the big screen. 

Oh man, I didn't even watch Batman animated series while  growing up and I think Mark Hamil's Joker is the best thing.