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[SteventheSlayer]

wtf?
I understand starcraft and dota being rainbow, and they are, but which civilization?

Play Nuclear Dawn, Dayz, Rust, Roller coaster Tycoon, Prison Architect, Payday, orcs must die, killing floor, ftl,
I suppose the list is shortened by how many ended up being ported to consoles to make more money.
Like how rayman legends was ported to ps360 to make more money.

Nuclear Dawn is a fun game. I wish more people played it.

 

And thanks for calling him out. I didn't feel like it.

Edited by SteventheSlayer, 10 May 2014 - 05:54 PM.

[3Dude]

I'm talking Civilization, Starcraft, Dota 2 etc. None have captivated my imagination or hooked me into exciting and challenging gameplay, hard to describe but in the end I'm happy with the 3rd party ports on PC and that's all.

As a platform for exclusives, PC isn't on par with consoles. never has been.
 
 
Still childish.
 
People have given you a chance but I saw through your opinions all along and I think that's one reason we don't get along and never will.

Okay, so you dont like that style of rts/sim.

might want to take a look at the other 99.99% of flavours. Besides the the constant deluge of aaaaaaaa diarrea thats covering everything else in horrible stinky liquid poo.

Most of those 'third party port' franchises you are talking about, probably started out on pc, and were originally downgraded to be ported to consoles before third party aaaaaaaa studios decided enough of us were too stupid to notice if all they made was the downgraded title and just crapped it onto pc. Around the same time they started turning them into a hideous parody of the what the franchise once was. About 1/4th of the way through last gen.
 

Portal is but one game, and its a very unique one at that.  It doesn't compare to the many many console exclusives.
 
Its rather besides the point though as without PC we wouldn't have the healthy console indie market we have today.  I dare say it also contributes to iOS/Android software because there were already trained programmers thanks to the PC indie market.
 
We also must not forget that a lot of games which have gone on to do well on console wouldn't have existed without the PC indie/shareware market.

Well theyve gone on.... But I certainly wouldnt consider the state they are in now to be 'well'.

[Raiden]

Only games I get on PC anymore is indie games. Load them up from GOG & Steam. All PC gaming is worth for me. Ok some retro games as well like Serious Sam. Rare i can like a FPS but Serious Sam is one. But mainly the indie games I get have a retro look and/or feel or made in Unity.

[Scumbag]

wtf?
I understand starcraft and dota being rainbow, and they are, but which civilization?

Play Nuclear Dawn, Dayz, Rust, Roller coaster Tycoon, Prison Architect, Payday, orcs must die, killing floor, ftl,
I suppose the list is shortened by how many ended up being ported to consoles to make more money.
Like how rayman legends was ported to ps360 to make more money.

lol at the exclusives bs. The array of choice alone trumps the movies the platform holders churn out.

 

Not hard to understand really is it.

 

The array of choice has nothing to do with quality, huge selection but how many are stinkers? Many. Who says, "today I am really tempted to buy a gaming PC for the exclusives"? I didn't.

 

It's a platform for the best experience in multiplats and some not bad exclusives hidden in a pile of turds. Point is, console exclusives since time began are better made, Apart from Half life 2 who can really say a PC game deserves to be in a top ten of best games ever made?

Okay, so you dont like that style of rts/sim.

might want to take a look at the other 99.99% of flavours. Besides the the constant deluge of aaaaaaaa diarrea thats covering everything else in horrible stinky liquid poo.

Most of those 'third party port' franchises you are talking about, probably started out on pc, and were originally downgraded to be ported to consoles before third party aaaaaaaa studios decided enough of us were too stupid to notice if all they made was the downgraded title and just crapped it onto pc. Around the same time they started turning them into a hideous parody of the what the franchise once was. About 1/4th of the way through last gen.
 

Well theyve gone on.... But I certainly wouldnt consider the state they are in now to be 'well'.

 

Maybe that's the issue. I actually do love rts but not the PC experience.

 

Why? I come home from work and want to spend a few hours on a game. Do I pick up Starcraft/Dota 2 which are extremely overcomplicated, 50% of the screen taken up with icons and actions I can't be bothered learning and just far too much to take in before I can start enjoying the game. OR do I pick up something like Pikmin or Advance Wars, something like that which are easy to get into and have a habit of being addictive.

 

Before I get called ignorant, i give all games a chance and learn as much as there is before giving judgement. It's all subjective at the end day isn't it.

[SteventheSlayer]

:Snip:

 

There is too much wrong in this post.

[3Dude]

Not hard to understand really is it.
 
The array of choice has nothing to do with quality, huge selection but how many are stinkers? Many. Who says, "today I am really tempted to buy a gaming PC for the exclusives"? I didn't.
 
It's a platform for the best experience in multiplats and some not bad exclusives hidden in a pile of turds. Point is, console exclusives since time began are better made, Apart from Half life 2 who can really say a PC game deserves to be in a top ten of best games ever made?


 
Maybe that's the issue. I actually do love rts but not the PC experience.
 
Why? I come home from work and want to spend a few hours on a game. Do I pick up Starcraft/Dota 2 which are extremely overcomplicated, 50% of the screen taken up with icons and actions I can't be bothered learning and just far too much to take in before I can start enjoying the game. OR do I pick up something like Pikmin or Advance Wars, something like that which are easy to get into and have a habit of being addictive.
 
Before I get called ignorant, i give all games a chance and learn as much as there is before giving judgement. It's all subjective at the end day isn't it.

Ignorance is OK, ignorance just means you dont know about something or are uninformed. I am apparantly woefully ignorant when it comes to making decent hash browns.

So you dont like that style of rts, maybe you should check out the other 99.99% of the pc gaming experience.

Truth be told, I havent played the kind of rts you are talking about since war craft stopped being one and ea murdered westwood. I dont touch mobas either. There is a lot to pc gaming, their could be so, so , so much more if the aaaaaaaaaa publishing houses were to finally choke on their own greed and die and allow mid teir dev studios to grow again.

If you are looking for meaningful games that you dont have to spend hours sifting through a wall of complicated controls, PC has that.

http://zarat.us/tra/eversion/
http://hcsoftware.so...tion/index.html
These two above are even free to boot.


http://insideastarfilledsky.net/
http://thecastledoctrine.net/

They are simple to understand mechanically, and dont take much time at all per session. But I wouldnt judge them too hastily. Each one of these games is packed with more thought and meaning than a dozen aaa factory crap outs.

But artsy type games, while thought provoking, may be a little too short and simple for all the time, engrossing as some o f them may be. Sometime you may want a visually deeper, immersive experience.

PC has also become quite the scene for a survival horror return to form.

http://www.gog.com/game/outlast

first person adventure games.
http://dreampainters...om/p/video.html

And so much more.

PC is where everything not on a nintendo system is taking shelter and waiting, waiting for the fecal lords to die so they can come out and grow again.

[Nollog]

Not hard to understand really is it.
 
The array of choice has nothing to do with quality, huge selection but how many are stinkers? Many. Who says, "today I am really tempted to buy a gaming PC for the exclusives"? I didn't.
 
It's a platform for the best experience in multiplats and some not bad exclusives hidden in a pile of turds. Point is, console exclusives since time began are better made, Apart from Half life 2 who can really say a PC game deserves to be in a top ten of best games ever made?

You didn't answer me.
Which civilization game have you played?
3? 4? 5?
I know for a fact it wasn't 2.

The array of choice is all about quality. Bad games die. The good ones stand out. The choice makes it happen.
A lot of people do. They buy a console for the exclusives, and a PC for the better exclusives that PC gets, like (since you're listing games that have since been ported to consoles) don't starve, VVVVVVV, meat boy, half-life, portal, halo, cod, civ, amnesia, mirror's edge etc.

So you agree then.
No they're not. C&C, minecraft, civ, wow, cod, diablo, half-life, the sims, unreal tournament, counter strike, *any moba you like*.
All these are among most top10 lists, and all these started on PC, or still are better on PC.

[ChrisD]

The distinct lack of Cave Story in your PC recommendations saddens me. Though I guess you're going for things that hasn't been ported to everything under the sun.

 

 

While I'm not going to say that PC doesn't have exclusives, I will say that I think a big part of PCs is being able to play such a wide range of titles. This is opposite the average console experience, where you generally purchase one for specific games. I love our computer because it's the only place I can play Awesomenauts before jumping to Bastion, playing a bit of Sonic, dabbling in Civilization, giving Spelunky some time, challenging my brother in Nidhogg, re-matching him in Towerfall Ascension, messing around in Goat Simulator and then finally winding down with a bit of Fez before letting my brother get on to play DayZ, Dota 2, or Team Fortress 2 or somethin'. All on the same system. (Okay so I don't actually own all the above on PC, but you get the point.) On the other hand, I got the Wii U for very specific games -- I wanted Pikmin 3, Mario Kart 8, and Smash Bros. Everything else is nice, definitely, but it's all "extra."

[Kokirii]

I'm trying to get my account suspended and deleted, hence my trolling.

 

I actually love my Wii U and its game, I just dislike this forum and the users on it.

 

So I'll say anything just to get a rise out of the members on here.

 

You must be a very sad person with very little going on in your life.  

 

[Raiden]

You must be a very sad person with very little going on in your life.  

 

Even less now as he got his wish

[grahamf]

Let's all have a moment of silence.

 

Now back on topic, I do believe the Wii U has a bit of "Magic Sauce," but a portion of it is that Nintendo optimized for specialized tasks while the PSOne uses more generalized systems that use brute force to do everything. That being said, with this being Nintendo's first HD console it is possible that they have optimizations but also bottlenecks in areas that they didn't anticipate. I'm certain Nintendo will be able to take what they learned from the Wii U and use it to make the Fusion console a truly powerful system. And it's too soon to tell but maybe MS and Sony might end up scaling back on their next consoles while Nintendo works to make a more powerful system; meaning that the Fusion may possible be equal or superior to the PS5 or XBTwo. Not likely though, but anything's possible.

[NintendoReport]

You must be a very sad person with very little going on in your life.  

 

 

He's got a lot going on in his life, it just doesn't amount to much. 

[KingBoo]

The constant use of the phrase "secret sauce" has me on the grooound.

I'm trying to get my account suspended and deleted, hence my trolling.

 

I actually love my Wii U and its game, I just dislike this forum and the users on it.

 

So I'll say anything just to get a rise out of the members on here.

-Dislikes this forum and users on it

-Spends time on it anyways

[Cloud Windfoot Omega]

This thread embodies is why i dun post here much anymore. Take that as you will.

[grahamf]

I'll just summarrize this:

 

Anyone who thinks the Wii U is only as or less powerful than the PS360 is delusional

Anyone who thinks the Wii U is nearly or more powerful than the 4One is delusional

Anyone who thinks that they simply cannot enjoy a game unless it's the very best graphics possible is also delusional.

Seriously, the 3DS, Gamecube, and Wii are weaker consoles yet they still have lots of very fun games.

[Alex Atkin UK]

Indeed.  I am constantly surprised by how nice games can even look on the 3DS with its INSANELY low resolution by todays standards.

 

Do I wish it was higher resolution?  Sure.  Does it ruin the games that its not?  Nope.

 

The only reason resolution-gate is a "thing" is because some of us, me included, bought a next-gen console partly to finally HAVE 1080p games on console.  I already had it on PC and liked it.  Its more a value-for-money thing.

 

Then again, if ANY PS4/One game looked as nice as Mario Kart 8, I really wouldn't give a crap what resolution it was in.  Again yes, it would look even nicer in 1080p native, but its darn gorgeous game anyway.

Edited by Alex Atkin UK, 23 May 2014 - 11:59 AM.