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[Xiombarg]

Artificial intelligence isn't true intelligence for it is only a bunch of numbers interacting with each other. It isnt thinking at all, its programing is just interacting.

In a more free perspective, artificial means man-made. The strict technological definition for AI is a limited one, however, people can talk about it in philosophical terms as a simple man-made definition. It being artificial can simply mean that man created the ancestor robot, but (I don't know how) its byproducts or new version created itself to become a truly intelligent being.

This is just interpretation of the word, though.

How about those androids and cyborgs?

[HaoSenVastForest]

In a more free perspective, artificial means man-made. The strict technological definition for AI is a limited one, however, people can talk about it in philosophical terms as a simple man-made definition. It being artificial can simply mean that man created the ancestor robot, but (I don't know how) its byproducts or new version created itself to become a truly intelligent being.

This is just interpretation of the word, though.

How about those androids and cyborgs?

Androids and cyborgs are completely different. Androids are completely robotic and man made while a cyborg doesnt exist yet and are considered actual living creatures. And what modern science tells us is that technological singualrity is nothing but a dream.

[BazzDropperz]

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Edited by BazzDropperz, 14 July 2014 - 01:30 AM.

[Xiombarg]

Androids and cyborgs are completely different.

I never said they were the same, I'm just giving people a possible theme switch.

[Mii]

My hit list:
WallE
Cleverbot
WiiU news bot
Asimo

Cleverbot can't learn. He's only made to remember stuff. I don't see the other ones as serious.

Also, it is possible. The section that makes us learn is in the brain. It's just really really complex. If we could build a brain-chip it should be able to work. We can actually, but it's way to hard to do and way to complex.

Sorry for going back that much. ^^

Edited by Mii, 18 April 2012 - 08:20 AM.

[AegisReflector]

This topic isn't about an AI, it's about robots having real intelligence. o_O

What do you mean "real" intelligence? I think you're trying to compare AI to "human" intelligence, when there really isn't a definition seperating the two. Yes, intelligence is acquiring skills and whatnot, but if we implant AI to a computer.....welp, they gain the functions they need to operate....soooooo.

[Mii]

A computer won't even know what he's doing. He won't learn anything, which clearly is a part it has to have to talk about intelligence. AI is just a bad word for "Complex user input based output system".

[BazzDropperz]

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Edited by BazzDropperz, 14 July 2014 - 01:28 AM.

[AegisReflector]

A computer won't even know what he's doing. He won't learn anything, which clearly is a part it has to have to talk about intelligence.

There is a human trait that is remarkably similar to this.

It's called "ignorance".

[Mii]

AI isn't intelligence. Intelligence requires you to be capable of learning things.

[HaoSenVastForest]

A computer won't even know what he's doing. He won't learn anything, which clearly is a part it has to have to talk about intelligence. AI is just a bad word for "Complex user input based output system".

Yes but the memory required to learn is just too much. You will end up with needing much more than 1000 TB. Modern computers normally have no more than 2 TB. It will be a very big feat of engineering.

Also it would be kinda impossible to create emotion because the human brain cant even do that without the help of chemicals and hormones.

[Mii]

That doesn't add any difficulty.
Hormones are slow signals replaceable by wires.
The chemicals are just to keep the electricity level in your body high enough. Replaceable by wires.

Humans can do nothing more then a computer should be able to. But right now, we didn't invent intelligence yet for computers.

[HaoSenVastForest]

That doesn't add any difficulty.
Hormones are slow signals replaceable by wires.
The chemicals are just to keep the electricity level in your body high enough. Replaceable by wires.

Humans can do nothing more then a computer should be able to. But right now, we didn't invent intelligence yet for computers.

Actually these arent replaceable by wires at all. They have to be absorbed into the brain tissue to work. It needs to be a conductive material that has the same properties as the brain tissue or else it wont work.

[Xiombarg]

Actually these arent replaceable by wires at all. They have to be absorbed into the brain tissue to work. It needs to be a conductive material that has the same properties as the brain tissue or else it wont work.

Which is well within our capabilities. Besides, that is essentially a wire. The inner wire is conductive, while the outer is insulation; its not too hard to modify that, ever hear of bionic body parts or stem cells?

[Auzzie Wingman]

*checks smart arse answer*
*no hits*

[HaoSenVastForest]

Which is well within our capabilities. Besides, that is essentially a wire. The inner wire is conductive, while the outer is insulation; its not too hard to modify that, ever hear of bionic body parts or stem cells?

I did but the problem is that it requires actual cells and you cant just create life.

[AegisReflector]

I did but the problem is that it requires actual cells and you cant just create life.

>Stem Cell Research

I am lost.

[BazzDropperz]

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Edited by BazzDropperz, 14 July 2014 - 01:26 AM.

[HaoSenVastForest]

When we get better at manipulating matter in the atomic realm, I'm sure we'll be able to create something from scratch that most people would consider alive.

Uh.... Just saying but that is practically impossible. Imagine how the Christians would feel. Creating life would practically destroy the religion and also it isn't quite physically possible because we know almost nothing of creating organisms. The closest we can get is growing them.

And PS I said nothing about emotions I was talking about thought.

[Xiombarg]

Uh.... Just saying but that is practically impossible. Imagine how the Christians would feel. Creating life would practically destroy the religion and also it isn't quite physically possible because we know almost nothing of creating organisms. The closest we can get is growing them.

And PS I said nothing about emotions I was talking about thought.

You need to define thought, though. Thought can be just the firing of neurons in brains. Humans are essentially the same as computers, just carbon based rather than silicon.

Oh, and we have created organisms before, we have cloned animals and are capable of recreating certain extinct species.