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[bornsupercharged]

Can i run the same game twice on my pc ? Nope.

Wait, what? You must really not know a thing about hardware.

Most aftermarket/off the shelf graphics card these days support 2 monitors - that's 2 separate displays. Laptops have HDMI out for instance that lets you extend your display to a TV or another monitor as well. If you're counting, that's 2 displays at once on a laptop.. hell laptops have been able to do this for years and years, and at resolutions higher than the GamePad's. And don't forget the DS had two screens with different pictures being shown on both, plus touch on one. Nintendo has the whole multiple screen thing down by now, without a doubt in my mind.

"It's crazy because the game is running in full HD [on the television], we are streaming another picture on the GamePad screen, and it's still 60 frames per second. And the latency on the controller is just 1/60 of a second, so it's one frame late. It's crazy, it's so fast. It's almost instant. That's why it responds so well. So it can be used as a real game-design thing."
http://www.nintendol...160_of_a_second

And as someone else mentioned above me, there IS support for 2 GamePads at once, just no launch games make use of it as far as I'm aware.

As for running the same game twice on a pc.. I multibox WoW with my account and my brothers account on my computer with no issues. Multiboxing is where you play multiple different accounts at once (read: the game itself is running multiple times), either on one computer or multiple computers.

Edited by bornsupercharged, 29 October 2012 - 08:26 AM.

[Nollog]

Why do you all care so much?
It's not out for 20/32 days yet.
You have no idea how good it looks yet.
Are you going to trust companies like EA and ubisoft not to lie to you by showing you bullshots?
Wait for it to be in your hands before you argue over it being a graphical potato or titan.

Go to bestbuy together. or gamestop and play it with each other. Then discuss it in the shop!

Edited by Nollog, 29 October 2012 - 08:28 AM.

[Dragon]

Why do you all care so much?
It's not out for 20/32 days yet.
You have no idea how good it looks yet.
Are you going to trust companies like EA and ubisoft not to lie to you by showing you bullshots?
Wait for it to be in your hands before you argue over it being a graphical potato or titan.

Go to bestbuy together. or gamestop and play it with each other. Then discuss it in the shop!

Because it's a next-gen console. And I'm trusting what Gearbox and Ubisoft have said about the Wii U verses those "leaks" on the internet that seem SO much more believable to everyone else.

I just tend to get into arguments, because, well.... I'm quite used to them. I need a break.

[Nollog]

I blame Sony for all this next-gen hardware garbage.
$699 and people blindly bought it. Of course they'd hold onto that company with tooth and nail. Otherwise they'd just look stupid.

Overly complex hardware no developer could be bothered to wrap their head around due to laziness, new disc format to push costs of both console and games up, rubber duckies.

If you're a gamer there's one thing you should care about from all we know so far:
Every developer says the Wii U is easy to make games on.
Remember those? Games. The things you claim to enjoy playing? They're easier to make on the Wii U than even the xbox 360, a previous generation console (by normal definition, release dates) they've been working on for 6 years or so.

Edited by Nollog, 29 October 2012 - 08:35 AM.

[deerang]

AGAIN, how does that make me a fanboy? And how am I insulting? And I can tell you're new here.

Very aggresive replies, i have just as much right to post as you do. There is a difference between discussing with someone and just barking at them. You come up with very few actual facts. What does "this is not Microsoft" have to do with anything ? How is that even an answer ? you know damn well that the Wii U needs extra power to render twice. This thread is about if the WII U will have better graphics than Xbox/Ps3, does is even matter though ? Yes it is slightly more powerful, but it needs a good chunk of that power to do what it does best, dual screen gaming. That was my point, you chose to ignore that. You also chose to ignore the gamepad charging issue. I actually used a Wii U at E3, did you ? I actually asked how the gamepad works at E3 to which i got very little reply. I bought a Wii U on good faith due to brand loyality not due to the information given.

[bornsupercharged]

Why do you all care so much?
It's not out for 20/32 days yet.
You have no idea how good it looks yet.
Are you going to trust companies like EA and ubisoft not to lie to you by showing you bullshots?
Wait for it to be in your hands before you argue over it being a graphical potato or titan.

Go to bestbuy together. or gamestop and play it with each other. Then discuss it in the shop!

We care because we're gamers and the first word in "video game console" is video - what you see presented matters and in 2012 we should definitely be seeing really nice graphics.
I've played it already, as have quite a few people, so we actually do know how good it looks. I'm also a software engineer so I know when a new system is released, there's a learning curve both on development and optimization of the system. What we're seeing with these first games aren't the best graphics that the Wii U can do - with that said though the graphics are impressive as it stands.

What do you add to the discussion beyond questioning those in the discussion as to why they're in the discussion?

[Nollog]

We care because we're gamers and the first word in "video game console" is video - what you see presented matters and in 2012 we should definitely be seeing really nice graphics.
I've played it already, as have quite a few people, so we actually do know how good it looks. I'm also a software engineer so I know when a new system is released, there's a learning curve both on development and optimization of the system. What we're seeing with these first games aren't the best graphics that the Wii U can do - with that said though the graphics are impressive as it stands.

What do you add to the discussion beyond questioning those in the discussion as to why they're in the discussion?

You are claiming that the current games produced by third party companies are not "really nice graphics" ?
I doubt you are. See you're not.

Sanity.

[deerang]

Wait, what? You must really not know a thing about hardware.

Most aftermarket/off the shelf graphics card these days support 2 monitors - that's 2 separate displays. Laptops have HDMI out for instance that lets you extend your display to a TV or another monitor as well. If you're counting, that's 2 displays at once on a laptop.. hell laptops have been able to do this for years and years, and at resolutions higher than the GamePad's. And don't forget the DS had two screens with different pictures being shown on both, plus touch on one. Nintendo has the whole multiple screen thing down by now, without a doubt in my mind.

"It's crazy because the game is running in full HD [on the television], we are streaming another picture on the GamePad screen, and it's still 60 frames per second. And the latency on the controller is just 1/60 of a second, so it's one frame late. It's crazy, it's so fast. It's almost instant. That's why it responds so well. So it can be used as a real game-design thing."
http://www.nintendol...160_of_a_second

And as someone else mentioned above me, there IS support for 2 GamePads at once, just no launch games make use of it as far as I'm aware.

As for running the same game twice on a pc.. I multibox WoW with my account and my brothers account on my computer with no issues. Multiboxing is where you play multiple different accounts at once (read: the game itself is running multiple times), either on one computer or multiple computers.

Yeah two monitors sure, multiboxing Wow is not the same thing. Try running two versions of Battlefield 3 on the same login. The point is Wii U is unique that it can render the same thing with two different actions going on. Mario on the tv and Mario with you painting platforms on the gamepad, that's really clever stuff.

[Dragon]

Very aggresive replies, i have just as much right to post as you do. There is a difference between discussing with someone and just barking at them. You come up with very few actual facts. What does "this is not Microsoft" have to do with anything ? How is that even an answer ? you know damn well that the Wii U needs extra power to render twice. This thread is about if the WII U will have better graphics than Xbox/Ps3, does is even matter though ? Yes it is slightly more powerful, but it needs a good chunk of that power to do what it does best, dual screen gaming. That was my point, you chose to ignore that. You also chose to ignore the gamepad charging issue. I actually used a Wii U at E3, did you ? I actually asked how the gamepad works at E3 to which i got very little reply. I bought a Wii U on good faith due to brand loyality not due to the information given.

I didn't say you didn't have as much of a right to post as me.
I said this isn't Microsoft, because they don't put as much care into their products as Nintendo does.
bornsupercharged basically proved you wrong on what you said.
And where is your proof that it's only "slightly" more powerful?
As for the GamePad, it was confirmed a while back that it lasts 3 to 5 hours. http://www.eurogamer...y-life-detailed
I've already used the Wii U thank you very much. Just not at E3.
If you're gonna be just as hateful with your responses, then don't yell at me about it.

Don't bother replying, because this is a never-ending battle. I'm sorry I come off as hateful, but I'm an aggressive person.

Edited by Dragon, 29 October 2012 - 08:45 AM.

[Nollog]

Yeah two monitors sure, multiboxing Wow is not the same thing. Try running two versions of Battlefield 3 on the same login. The point is Wii U is unique that it can render the same thing with two different actions going on. Mario on the tv and Mario with you painting platforms on the gamepad, that's really clever stuff.

eyefinity on three screens would probably be more powerful than what the wii u could do.
I might say 2 screens, but the content on screen 1 and 2 might be different on the wii u. 3 screens would push a hell of a lot more dots onto the screen.

Gameplay is key as always. Seems you're arguing this point and people are thinking you mean "graphics graphics graphics" for some reason?

[AMAC]

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