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[giggity3000]

Now that the console is out and developers with actual names say its bad what happens next? I probably wouldn't get it if it means another 6 years of lack luster 3rd party trash with the occasional 1st party jewel. Luckily i didn't buy it the 1st day. Even if some users of this forum were calling me out as A sony drone cause i didn't buy 1st day

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Edited by giggity3000, 01 December 2012 - 04:01 PM.

[angelo07stang]

Ughh not looking good glad I got my wii u deluxe for nintendo exclusives but when the next xbox comes out and ps4 I will probably be playing third party games on those systems cause they are going to be able to do more wit hthe game cause they will have more power. There are also a million threads on this topic already.

Edited by angelo07stang, 01 December 2012 - 03:34 PM.

[Hinkik]

Well this is gonna sound funny but this "kinda confirms that wii u truly is nextgen."

The next generation of graphics and games is heavely based on the gpu. Almost everything is simulated and rendered with the gpu.

Since the CPU and memory is cheap ones and the system still is 300 bucks shouldn't that meant that the gpu is really good?

[angelo07stang]

This is why nintendo kept the specs hidden and never said anything. I hope I dont regret my wii u purchase we will def get awsome first party games but dont see much of a reason to buy third party on the wii u when the next box and ps4 will look way better and be able to do more wit hthe game as far as having more enmys on screen and other awsome graphics.

[alan123]

If the Wii U fails to grab the third party developers & hang on to them, Nintendo will be over !

Nintendo know how to make a console, but it seems that to get the best out of it it needs a lot of work, this is what happened with the PS3 & there are way too many problems with multi-platform games.
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Edited by alan666, 01 December 2012 - 03:55 PM.

[giggity3000]

Well this is gonna sound funny but this "kinda confirms that wii u truly is nextgen."

The next generation of graphics and games is heavely based on the gpu. Almost everything is simulated and rendered with the gpu.

Since the CPU and memory is cheap ones and the system still is 300 bucks shouldn't that meant that the gpu is really good?

It can't run unreal engine 4, only unreal engine 3.9 then the huge jump to 4 is too much

This is why nintendo kept the specs hidden and never said anything. I hope I dont regret my wii u purchase we will def get awsome first party games but dont see much of a reason to buy third party on the wii u when the next box and ps4 will look way better and be able to do more wit hthe game as far as having more enmys on screen and other awsome graphics.

If you bought it for nintendo games then you're ok but if it's 3rd party you wanted then you messed up

[Colinx]

A console doesn't have to have the best specs to be "next gen". Nintendo games look fantastic, as we see with Pikmin 3. That game looks beautiful if you look at the environments and that game originally started out as a Wii game. We haven't seen what this system really can do, and hopefully this gen lets see Nintendo make some beautiful games.

As for 3rd party, it just depends how powerful the 720/PS4 are.

Edited by Colinx, 01 December 2012 - 04:03 PM.

[angelo07stang]

It can't run unreal engine 4, only unreal engine 3.9 then the huge jump to 4 is too much

If you bought it for nintendo games then you're ok but if it's 3rd party you wanted then you messed up

Yeah I basically bought it for mario mario kart zelda metroid brawl and all other first party nintendo games but had a feeling third party was going to jump ship on wiiu. I got assasins creed 3 coming this week for the u and will prob get the new aliens game on the u too along with blops 2. A part of me was hoping this was going to be my main system but that was foolish cause i love halo and gears and xbox live and love playstation for there exclusives so i will have all the consoles once again.

Edited by angelo07stang, 01 December 2012 - 04:06 PM.

[giggity3000]

Yeah I basically bought it for mario mario kart zelda metroid brawl and all other first party nintendo games but had a feeling third party was going to jump ship on wiiu. I got assasins creed 3 coming this week for the u and will prob get the new aliens game on the u too along with blops 2. A part of me was hoping this was going to be my main system but that was foolish cause i love halo and gears and xbox live and love playstation for there exclusives so i will have all the consoles once again.

>implying sony will last long enough past next gen
>implying they lost more profits in the past year then nintendo did in 3
>implying no one is buying their tech so drones can't use that as an excuse
>implying the vita wont flop

[angelo07stang]

>implying sony will last long enough past next gen
>implying they lost more profits in the past year then nintendo did in 3
>implying no one is buying their tech so drones can't use that as an excuse
>implying the vita wont flop

Theres def going to be another playstation dev kits been out for awhile now and vita is going to play a big part in the next playstation its basically going to be like a gamepad for the ps4 or as an extra screen.

[FireBoost06]

I'm sure although the CPU may be "horrible" Nintendo will make the best out of the Wii U with their first party games like Legend of Zelda or a 3D Mario game. I just hope Nintendo maintains third party support this whole generation because if not, I'm afraid i'm gonna have to buy a Sony/Microsoft console

[Stephen]

"Just developing for the ps3 is a significant addition"
So, to get this straight, a developer says its hard as it is to develop for ps3. NO WONDER THERE HAVING TROUBLE WITH THE WII U IF THEY CAN'T EVEN PORT TO THE PS3!! how long have they had to get used to the ps3?????
Siriusly, this is one of the few developers that say the cpu is bad. It sounds like lazy developers who think throwing ram and power at the game makes it run faster. you have to look at the system and set the coding for the system to utilize the power.
The ram. there's more to ram than what you think. The Wii U makes use of smaller but much faster eDRAM, which is used to send more urgent data quicker. they obviously haven't looked at the system fully enough to understand it.The power is there. thy just don't know how to use it.
DICE, siriusly? The company who make battlefield all day, Dice are one of the most lazy developers out there. Why don't they do something new? how about making mirrors edge two?

I just don't understand how a 7 year old CPU is more powerful than a present gen CPU. Even the least powerful CPUs you buy are more powerful than the xbox CPU.
Also, Don't forget its been found out that Nintendo also added extra microchips, such as a dedicated sound processor, and extra graphics capabilities so that developers can use the CPU for only processing purposes.

Rant over.

Edited by stephen, 01 December 2012 - 04:48 PM.

[Bunkei]

Let's look at the current list of third party publishers that has released or confirm to be releasing titles for the Wii U during the launch window:

- Activision
- Capcom
- Ubisoft
- WB
- 2K Sports
- Sega
- Namco

... I don't see an issue (at least not yet) with 3rd party support considering that these are really big companies supporting the new console; and according to Reggie, there are announcements still to be made. They knew about the Wii U specs way before we did, but it didn't deter them from bringing over their most popular franchises to the Wii U.

Now it remains to be seen IF the Wii U will continue to have good 3rd party support, but for right now, I'm not worried. In fact, this is probably the first Nintendo console EVER where most of the games at launch are NOT 1st party titles.

Edited by Bunkei, 01 December 2012 - 04:57 PM.

[alan123]

Let's look at the current list of third party publishers that has released or confirm to be releasing titles for the Wii U during the launch window:

- Activision
- Capcom
- Ubisoft
- WB
- 2K Sports
- Sega
- Namco

... I don't see an issue (at least not yet) with 3rd party support considering that these are really big companies supporting the new console; and according to Reggie, there are announcements still to be made. They knew about the Wii U specs way before we did, but it didn't deter them from bringing over their most popular franchises to the Wii U.

Now it remains to be seen IF the Wii U will continue to have good 3rd party support, but for right now, I'm not worried. In fact, this is probably the first Nintendo console EVER where most of the games at launch are NOT 1st party titles.

The issue is though that Nintendo cannot rely on it's first party titles much longer, once we have had Mario U, Zelda U, Pikmin U, Metriod U& Mario kart U what is left for Nintendo & more importantly us gamers ?

I have had all the Nintendo consoles since the NES & i love Nintendo & their games, but i simply won't buy a console anymore for a few games over the consoles life, most of the titles i have mentioned are some of the best games of the generation, but you also get great Platform, RPG Strategy, FPS & racing games on Sony & Microsofts consoles plus many many other titles.

The Wii U multi-platform games need to be better than the PS3/X360 counterparts to draw people away from their PS3's & X360's do not forget lots of games are multi-player now & the Nintendo system is pretty poor, so if there are not enough people playing Call Of Duty Black Opps 2 on the Wii U will people buy a game for a Wii U if they can play with more people on their PS3/X360 ?

If the Wii U fails me then i would be buying the next Nintendo console for sometime after it's release if at all.

I have said the Wii U needs games & it needs games along the lines of GTA V & not six or eight months after it's released on the PS3/X360 either, most games coming out for the Wii U are out on the PS3/X360 before hand like Tomb Raider 2013 for example, so what will people who own a Wii U & either a PS3/X360 do they will buy it on that instead because that is what i will do, also the games are cheaper on the PS3/X360 to.

Nintendo need to do more & do it fast !

[Tricky Sonic]

Such lack of faith with from all you "Nintendo Fans" . They know what they are doing, this is why gaming now a days isn't like it used to be. People seem to have no real allegiance anymore and jump boat soon as the more "powerful" system comes out. Graphics and raw power don't win console wars, game libraries do. The Wii succeeded with that it set out to do - capture the casual crowed, and now the Wii U is going to succeed with what it plans to do - get core gamers and casual gamers on one machine. Take RPG's for instance - arguably 2 of the best of this past gen are The Last Story and Xenoblade Chronicles - they looked gorgeous on the Wii and were far more fun than half the other RPG's on other consoles. Nintendo will get developers on board and we will see a great system in the Wii U. Those of you already talking about regretting purchasing and jumping ship when the powerful 720/ps4 launch - go right a head - read Nintendo fans will still be here on the forums enjoying the best gaming has to offer .

[Stormage09]

Now that the console is out and developers with actual names say its bad what happens next? I probably wouldn't get it if it means another 6 years of lack luster 3rd party trash with the occasional 1st party jewel. Luckily i didn't buy it the 1st day. Even if some users of this forum were calling me out as A sony drone cause i didn't buy 1st day

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maybe you dont know a carp, maybe is the trend of the next gen consoles, next xbox cpu is now rumored to be slower than the 360 cpu too , seriously you are beign annoying like all the other people repeating the same carp about the cpus over and over, just shut the Wii up and buy what you feel like god dammit

Edited by Stormage09, 01 December 2012 - 05:58 PM.

[Press]

I like the recent mentality on these forums that you can only own one console of the three. There are gonna be games the Wii U isn't going to get no matter how powerful it is, and Nintendo can't catch them all. You're gonna be disappointed either way. Seeing as how I'm an FF fan, I can already see PS4 exclusives. I accept that, and it just means I gotta buy a PS4 if I wanna play the games.

Don't have the money to invest in a second or third console? Maybe you should stop buying games because it's not like it's cheap being a gamer these days.

[Lebon14]

Geez guys, have faith.

[Zinix]

Why can't we keep all these CPU threads in one thread?

[GAMER1984]

If the Wii U fails to grab the third party developers & hang on to them, Nintendo will be over !

Nintendo know how to make a console, but it seems that to get the best out of it it needs a lot of work, this is what happened with the PS3 & there are way too many problems with multi-platform games.
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really after selling 21 million gamecubes and yet they survived you are claiming they are over after this? HA! anyway nintendo will be fine. its been doom and gloom for them since n64 and look they are still around.