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Nollog, It wasn't an arguement but a debate. It is ended now.

Inevitably Japanese business culture is different to that of the US or Europe, but the differences do not make it any more risky to do business in Japan than elsewhere in the world. In fact, certain aspects of Japan's business culture, especially the very stable long-term relationships resulting from the conservative Japanese sense of loyalty to trusted partners, can be very beneficial for those foreign companies that understand how to swim with the cultural tide as opposed to vainly struggling against it.

http://www.ventureja...ess-culture.htm

Talks specifically about nintendo 1
st party comparisons, responds with niche 3rd party games comparisons. Sounds legit.

You probably dont realize it, but all you have done is provided supporting evidence for who did, and didnt buy a wii u in my favour.

The small niche of people interested in unique games like red steel/zombi u, or nmh/tw101 clearly made the upgrade.... While the simplistic 2d platform/minigame players have not.

So lets keep shoving 2d platformers and a 2d design based 3d mario down their throats instead of giving them what they want.

Why do people keep ignoring Pikmin 3 and Wonderful 101 and the fact Nintendo enlisted Ubisoft to make Zombie U? None of those are 2d Platformers or Platformers in general. The system needed Nintendo games quickly so the 2D Platformers were easier to development quickly. It is as simple as that. I mention the variety that is coming in 2014. 2D Platformer, fighting game, action game, RPG, racing game, do not know the genre of SMTXFE, and I'm guessing Yoshi Yarn is a 2D Platformer. Add in the sprinkle of Third Party Games that have not been announced for the Wii U in 2014. Variety was on the system in 2013 but people ignore there was a action RPG, RTS, action, 3 FPS, two 2d and one 3d platformers, party game. I am not going to go into indie games w/ different genres as well. There is more balance of games on the system than the other current generation consoles of XBox One and PS4. All people focus on is 2D/3D Platformers namely Mario. Seems like Mario just dominates people's minds.

Edit: failed to mention 2 action/adventure games in Batman Arkham Origins and AC IV.

How can they sell 260 million when there's only 7 million people on earth?!
 

You meant 7 billion people on Earth, correct? When I made that statement, I was referring to the people who actually believe that. It was to explain that the so called "Core" audience have not been determined this generation. The "core" audience changes each generation.

but why not have these games available at launch. Nintendo started developing this console in 2009. They couldnt have partnered with a studio or one of their studios to have better selection of games in year one. Seriously we got Sing, and game and wario. Whoever developed thos games should have been working on something that fit the "CORE" market like they promised yet didnt fulfill.

The console been in development since 2006. Nintendo already explained that development teams were tied up on making 3DS games. They were making games for everyone. Sing is very popular is my brother's house along w/ Mario, COD, and other genre of games. Not everyone play certain genres. The "Core" audience was not known when the Wii U was released and it is still not known. 

Yes it has been out long enough. They had a YEAR lead... they said they learned from 3ds launch and then the did even worse than they did with the 3ds... thats screwing the pooch if i ever saw it. I consider Core as what the majority of players like that give video gaming the most sttention. the people that come on sites like this and post. the people that look on video game news site every day for new news. Thos are your core players and i have been on numerous site and what those players are saying is they want balance from Nintendo. yes we want mario but take chances and give us new ip's modern type games... challenge Retro studios to do something other than a 2d platformer.

Thank you for answering the question. I agree with the balance. With the start that Nintendo had ( which they didn't like), it was necessary for the Mario games because they could be developed quicker. Why are people so focused on Mario and forget about Pikmin 3 and enlisting Platinum Games for Wonderful 101? That is balance and more balance is coming in 2014. There will be a 2d platformer, fighting game, rpg, not sure what SMTXFE will be as a genre, action, racing, and I don't know what to call Yoshi yarn as a genre(most likely 2D platformer) but that is balance. This is only what is known, not saying Nintendo has some secret development going on, just what is known. Retro will most likely be working on their next game since DK:TF is basically finish probably a very small team is continuing to polish the game. I do not like using the word patience but the balance is coming in 2014.