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Spemanig

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#230812 The Wii U's lack of 3rd party is largely the fault of 3rd party and I...

Posted by Spemanig on 11 July 2013 - 01:17 PM

I'm sorry, but I need to vent this out somewhere.
 
The Wii U's lack of 3rd party is largely the fault of 3rd party developers. It's absolutely ridiculous. I don't get it. The Wii U SHOULD be getting Destiny. We haven't gotten ONE new quality multiplat yet. The first one will be Watch Dogs. There's nothing yet to base off that shows that this won't sell well. These developers are shooting the Wii U in the foot. Who would consider the Wii U a multiplat system when the only new AAA multiplats we're getting are Watch Dogs and Assassin's Creed 4? We SHOULD be getting GTA V. We SHOULD be getting COD: Ghosts. We SHOULD be getting Battlefield 4. This is ridiculous. Of course people aren't going to buy Wii U multiplats! How can we when there AREN'T ANY WORTH BUYING! Why aren't we getting Final Fantasy XV or Kingdom Hearts III? ALL 3rd party have to make the Wii U look like a desirable multi-platform console. If it isn't ALL there, the console look weak because of it.
 
EA's comment was borderline not good. "Wii U is an offline console in an online world." Of course it is! None of your NEW online games are coming to it! What online game am I supposed to play!? Metal Gear Solid V!? Snake! You were in SMASH BROTHERS!!! How much more praise do you need!? Power is not even REMOTELY and excuse at this point. We are nowhere near the point where games can't still run on current gen. This is ESPECIALLY true when your multiplats are still coming to current gen. 
 
When a consumer looks at a game's library and only see's old ports of games, of COURSE they aren't going to buy them! Wii U owners aren't not good. Why do you think the mediocre ZombieU was the Wii U's best selling 3rd party game!? That's proof enough that Wii U owners are starving for good 3rd party support. You think that game would have sold any better if it were a PS4 or XB1 exclusive!? NO!!! Wii U owners went out and bought a garbage to mediocre 3rd party game because they were STARVING for 3rd party variety. I don't even think that Assasin's Creed 4 will sell that well. The hype for that series died with the 3rd game. Even still, I'll almost guarantee that it will sell at least as well as ZombieU did.
 
A lot of people would suggest that I just buy a PS4 or a XBone, instead or on top of my Wii U. My response is simple. I don't want to. There are both simple and obvious reasons, as well as more complex reasons. Simply put, I prefer Nintendo exclusives way more then I do Sony or Xbox exclusives. Where as many could argue the merits of buying the Wii U as a solely 1st party system, you'd be hard pressed to argue the merits of buying a Sony or Xbox for solely 1st party. Uncharted, God of War, and The Last of Us look like great franchises, but they are much more easy to live without in my opinion than Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, and Metroid are in my opinion. Same with Halo and Titanfall. They look great, but I can live without them much easier than I can live without Nintendo.
 
Another simple and obvious reason. I consider myself a hardcore gamer, but I am not about to spend an extra $500+ at least so that I can buy yet another console, pay for a yearly online subscription, AND pay for games. That may not seem like a not good investment to some, and I respect those of you that DO buy more than one platform, but gaming to me is still very much just a hobby. I've already payed close to $400 for my Wii U, and I haven't even had to pay for online. I haven't even bought my first REAL game for it yet. (I just have Nintendo Land and few eShop downloads from Virtual Console and Indie Devs)
I'm not about to pay over $1000 just INITIALLY for something I consider just a hobby. To me, that's stupid.
 
Another simple reason. I don't agree that I should be paying a yearly subscription fee for an online experience that I am essentially already paying for. I think that's stupid. Especially when I've already payed full price for the game. I'm paying $60 for this game, and then you want me to pay an additional $50 a year to unlock an already build in feature from the game ON TOP of the fact that I'm already paying monthly for my internet connection period!? HA! You're bugging.
 
Here is the more complicated reason, though. I bought a Wii U because I feel that it offers a superior native gameplay experience from a hard core and casual gaming experience. Native. That mean's straight out of the box with out having to buy or do anything extra. For example, The immersion you get from playing Black Ops II with the Wii Motion+ tweaked just right and the map displayed on the gamepad simultaneously is simply unmatched natively. Playing a game about war and guns and being able to feel like you're really holding and aiming that gun and using actual war technology may seem gimmicky to some, but it's fun and immersive to others, and it's the kind of mindset that went into developing every Wii game and that currently goes into developing even the laziest of Wii U ports. If that's the standard, it gives me a great look at what developers that truly push and utilize such interesting hardware will bring. Or the fact that two people can play local multiplayer without split screen. I can play COD on the gamepad while you can play on the TV. Unparalleled natively on ANY current or next gen console. To do the same thing on the PS4, I have to buy the $250, and hope that the game I'm playing is one of the few that supports Playstation Move. With Xbox One, I'd have to buy a Windows tablet with "smart glass" and... Oh god, Kinect. Not to mention, these would be inferior experiences due to the after thought tacked on mentality in supporting features these due to the fact that most owners of PS4 or XB1 will simply never touch these features to begin with.
 
Now don't get me wrong. I'm no blind fanboy. There are plenty of things I find wrong with Nintendo. They have a LOT of things they need top do better. However, while I DO think that Nintendo is to blame for A LOT of the companies short comings, this had to be said. There's only so much that Nintendo can do at this point. More 1st party will NEVER entice gamers who are looking for an equal multi platform system experience. You think Sony or Microsoft would have survived generations on 1st party alone like Nindendo does? What a joke. Nintendo should have made the Wii U more powerful. I agree. Again though, the ramifications of that decision should be none existent this early in the game. Next gen isn't even in full swing yet. We're still transitioning. I have not seen one game so far that looks so unbelievably powerful and "next gen" that the Wii U has no chance of running a completely satisfying and full version. I agree that Nintendo should be aggressively pushing online play in it's first party titles so that the online community is more developed for developers. Again though, the strongest online games regularly come from third party. If you asked anyone if they'd rather play Mario online, or COD, they's most likely say COD.
 
If you want multiplats to sell well on Nintendo consoles, you HAVE to get consumers used to the idea that multiplats are on the console to begin with. When you base how well multiplats sell on 6 month old ports of previously unsupported franchises, what else would you expect!? Why would I, as a consumer, purchase a game that I'd either already played or owned before or already had the ending ruined after the six month wait for it to come to MY console? Why would I buy the third installment of a game I've never played before, that came out 3 months earlier (with a ruined, controversial ending I might add) at FULL PRICE, when I have no way of experiencing the prior two installments on my native platform of choice and when the entire trilogy exists on other platforms with more features for a fraction of the price you're asking for!? Would YOU as a gamer do that!? NO! But as if expecting old segregated ports to sell well wasn't enough, they aren't even fully supported! Now I'm getting a late port with less features than the originals, and no DLC of what I'm missing out on? And it's the Wii U's fault that 3rd party and multi-platform games don't sell well on the platform? Give me a break.
 
Put more effort into making a new, good, quality game that is built to take full advantage of the hardware it is being built on, just like with any other system. Then I'll buy your games. Stop treating Nintendo gamers like we're idiots and stop treating Nintendo gamers like we're not gamers.



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