FlamingFury

For legend of Zelda U Nintendo should go all out. Golden console physical copy of Zelda U. And when you turn it on you don't get the usual Wii U boot sound but the treasure chest opening sound and the LED isn't blue but green. The one thing you gotta give MS credit for on Halo editions they go all out.

I'll be honest, I would buy pretty much any remake that Gamefreak makes of the mainline Pokemon games, even if they redid Red/Blue (Green) again.

I like the way that Gamefreak remakes their games. They actually remake them. They are fully redone (unlike the remastered ports that wrongly clog up the 'remake' name nowadays), they add the improvements made in today's games to the older ones, plus add new features.

I can't complain with any Pokemon remake!

Well for starters you can kiss at least one or two of miiverse, internet browser, and eshop from suspend menus goodbye. They arent taking the whole Gb, and they most certainly have a lot of room to be optimized... but they arent fitting in 100Mb in any kind of enjoyable responsive functional state, and if you think they take a long time NOW... But... I would be okay with that with end gen games provided they explain on the box or something the mode the game runs in will limit suspend activities in favour of game runtime resources. Its something I would like on the 3ds where every Kb matters...

But on the wii u... I dont see it being that big of a deal.

The extra 900Mb of ram will allow a bigger tank to store more texture variety, or higher res textures like you brought up up... but thats really about it, and even though you have a bigger holdng tank, the exit of that tank (Front side bus to the embedded ram and then processors) wont be getting any faster or wider, so that could get tricky to use the extra capacity.

As for the gpu... Overclocking the gpu such a tiny amount when it has such a 'modest' shader count really isnt going to do much, it most certainly wont more than double your rops fillrate which is what you would need to go from 720p to 1080p without compromising fidelity. ANd it certinly wont allow the wii u to come anywhere near close to ps4/xbone particle levels, those particles are like that because the systems have a lot, lot, LOT more (and more effecient) shader cores than wii u with nothing currently better to do.

Writing your own graphics drivers out of fully platform optimized assembler will do you worlds of orders of magnitude more good in that regaurd than an overclock.

The system just seems really really well designed and balanced, to the point its not losing large amounts of performance to a bottle neck, which could then be 'uncorked' with an overclock or ram capacity increase, so your performance gains would be pretty negligible.

As fort he examples you gave, the wii u doesnt need a faster gpu or more ram to do that at a lesser graphical fidelity. It could easily handle both of those (At lesser graphical quality, lower res textures, lower polycounts etc), provided they were made for the platform and not crapped out in a 20 layer overhead dip of middleware.

Gpu work can be scaled back quite far, and with platform specific tailoring and baking, it could still look quite nice 'for' wii u.

Its the cpu that will really be what holds games like these back... and contrary to early unsubstantiated popular belief, that little 750 frankenstein they got in wii u is kind of a pint sized bad arse... Certainly capable of remaining competitive with 3 of the 8 ps4/bone jaguar codes in many areas. Wii u would have no problem with the amount of draw calls and executables required for the new witcher or assassins creed experience,  which just leaves scaling back the visuals.

Just look at the Zelda gifs of blowing grass you posted. The system is surprisingly rocking at draw calls. Consoles always have low overhead for draw calls, but the wii u in particular seems to be quite capable in this regaurd.

To put things in perspective, Sucker punch was bragging about 10,000 draw calls a frame at 30fps, extrapolated into 30,000 instances (using the same model/textures numerous times, in this case, the 10,000 assets were repeated another 20,000 times to fill the scene with 30,000 objects) for ps4's infamous second son.

Shin en, Which consists of 5 dudes has their wii u engine for fast racing neo pulling 10,000 draw calls a frame, at 60fps (Twice as many draw calls a second as second son on ps4) with 300,000 instances.

Of course, they are very very different games, with different resource needs and over heads, and the assets themselves differ in complexity, but regaurdless, it is very impressive any which way you slice it.

What people don't realize is that Nintendo released few first party games at launch on purpose. Want to know why they did that? Same reason they did it for 3DS. They wanted to give 3rd parties a chance to do well without Nintendo games competing.  One of the many complaints 3rd parties have is how Nintendo first party only sells and puts down 3rd party games. So Nintendo gave them a clear window to work with. Guess what 3rd parties dropped the ball both times leaving it up to Nintendo to try and pick things up. 3DS took OoT 3D and WiiU tried with a few 2013 games but took until MK8.

Like for example WiiU got Mass Effect 3 about a year after release on other consoles. ME Trology was already out. Why not port the trilogy? Nope ME3 and then EA was mad it didn't sell.  Ubi screwed WiiU fans over with Rayman. Crap like that. Nintendo published Ninja Gaiden 3 and marketed ZombiU. They did a lot to help 3rd parties succeed but most gave a half assed effort at best.

It seems people are more concerned with graphics and their own personal taste in games rather than anothers opinion, but they will go out of their way to say something else sucks. Just because of this I say congradulations!

I can understand if people think that a console is bad or a rip off, but saying it's a wrong purchase just because you like games on it and they don't is what is wrong.

Again, nice. I have one and I have no problem with it. Even if it's graphics are worse than PS4, you never notice it or think about it when you are in the middle of a game.