Sure does seem like the developers rely on you having gamers in the house. I for one have no one to play with and all the best games are local MP only.

ZombiU is supposed to represent the new hardcore direction yet its couch coop. Tank! Tank! Tank! is the only other game that I find even remotely interesting and its couch coop as well.

Just going down the list and looking into every game I could, I found zero that have online multiplayer.

BoPs 2 hasn't even been announced for WiiU (all rumors) and everyone will most likely buy it for established systems to play with a larger player base.

Ghost Recon was terrible but could have online. The more you look into these games the less and less they talk about online multiplayer. If a game is going to be online; its one of the biggest selling points yet no one has said anything. Its a pretty good bet that it wont be included if they are not putting it right out front first thing.

Mass Effect 3 has online multiplayer.
Assassin's Creed 3 has online multiplayer.
Sonic and Sega All-Stars Racing Transformed has online multiplayer.

ZombiU and New Super Mario Bros. U use online, (not for multiplayer).

What was that about no games have online?

Sonic and Sega All-Stars Racing Transformed - Couldn't find 1 reference to online multiplayer. Official site or interviews.
Mass Effect 3 - Might, not confirmed in any way
Assassains Creed 3 - Might, not confirmed in any way but is for others: http://wiiublog.com/...x-360-at-least/

The biggest problem we see here is that none of the devs will actually say it will.

so you assume that because they don't mention it that it won't happen? why would Nintendo work on a whole new online system if no games have online play?

Launch titles rarely have online functionality and this appears to be no exception. Online multiplayer is one of the main things to look for in any game and if anyone had it, it would of been confirmed already.

Zombie U better be online...this is not 2001. Every new game should have some sort of online option. Come on Nintendo. Get it right!

It for sure 100% does not have online multiplayer. Confirmed by developers that its couch coop only. The rage that brought on is what started the journey.

blops 2 will come to wii u with the best features.
zombi u has online multiplayer coop and the such.

If BoPs2 comes to WiiU it will miss the launch date. Might even be a year before you see it; by then everyone and their cousin will have already purchased it.

ZombiU does NOT have online coop. Its couch coop only featuring a zombie master like gameplay.

zombi u online is mentioned here. lol at couch coop.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZombiU

and what do you mean blops two might come out after wii u launch. its not confirmed for wii u in november , plus that would be a stupid move on nintendos part it was different when wii launched. late october is a more feasible release date. plus blops 2 has the best features and graphics. thats just the way it is.

I will take the word of the developer over Wikipedia...since they are the ones that made the game. I'm trying to find the interview where they said it would be couch coop online but in the mean time just read the official site: http://zombiu.ubi.co...ome/index.aspx/

No mention of online anywhere and only the known couch coop mode.

As for BoPs 2 there is no way in hell they would release it in October for the WiiU. Not only would that break their contract with Xbox/Microsoft, it would be for a system that isn't even on the shelf. Your post is kind of ambiguous about the points your trying to make but if BoPs 2 even comes to the WiiU it won't be for a long time.

EDIT: I would like to point out that I would love nothing more than to be wrong about ZombiU. It's the highlight of the system in my eyes (so far) and would bring me much joy to play online.

I offer to you to use google and prove me wrong. Every article and video on the net is all about the couch.

A new Turok game in the style of the first two.

http://www.examiner....-nov-20-release

just because micro has a contract with them doesnt mean the other versions wont come out at or around the same day. thats proof.

No one said that different versions of the game couldn't come out around the same time as the Xbox version. I said specifically said that they can not come out before the Xbox version. Their contract states that the Xbox gets just as much content as every other version of the game, all DLC first and the launch date must be the earliest or at least the same as the other versions.

Therefor the WiiU version can not come out in October as that is what was being discussed.

EDIT for this section: And there is no way the WiiU version of BoPs 2 is coming out this year.

btw zombi u will have online components, you play in the same world as your friends when they are playing and when they are invected you can find thier body and scavenge its been show. at gamescom.

I would like to see your source on that. I saw the footage from gamescom and unless I got distracted, I didn't see anything of the sort. I'll go download their presentation and report back once I've watched it.

EDIT for this section: Ok so I went and found the video of the developer:
http://www.g4tv.com/...iew/?quality=hd

(Online conversation starts at 2:40)

And yup, just as I said. No online multiplayer. The only online features are leaderboard, leaving notes and when your friends die their player will show up in your game as a zombie.

(Starting at 3:38)

They talk about "Multiplayer Mode" (notice that they didn't say anything like "one of our multiplayer modes is") and clearly outlines the couch coop MP.

ps- it hasnt been confirmed to be couch coop only. this is an example of what online multiplayer could look like, and this seems possible. plus why the hell would they show off online multiplayer at events when it cant even be played ? lol
http://m.youtube.com...h?v=cDkR-QKeaYA

The event has internet and could of easily been shown off. All it takes is two WiiU's and Wifi.

Ok lots to reply to.

Section: Black Ops 2 WiiU

a. The reason BoPs 2 would not come out this year is because they have no internal development team. Thats why Activision always out-sourced all the Wii versions of Call of Duty games. This may have changed now but it certainly hasn't given them time enough to do what needs done. (as a programmer myself, my heart goes out to the team that has to convert the engine to the WiiU platform)

b. Investors love money. Why do you think E3, Gamescom, etc exist? These shows are for investors. They see whats coming, judge the popularity among the population and invest if they so desire. Anytime a company can show something for investors, they do and Call of Duty being on a whole new platform (Translation: More $$$) means more business.

c.  The WiiU is trying to gain popularity and announcing THE biggest money making game of all time for a new system would help Nintendo tremendously. Call of Duty has broken the world record in entertainment in sales and it certainly didn't hurt the hardware it was played on.

To clarify "No online for anything":

a. I do not mean in any way that there will be no online games for Nintendo systems. I simply mean that most of the launch title/window games are couch coop and it appears that still remains to be the case.

b. "MSO - Massively Single Player Online" Nintendo could do nothing more to alienate it's hard core gamers. I can see how this could be tacked on to a game engine that was never designed to handle network traffic or uses antiquated scripts systems for its action sequences. This however is no longer fit for the modern era of gaming. Those kind of efforts fit into the dialup internet section of gaming when bandwidth was too limited to sync up games. I struggle to keep my engine online capable every single day, its hard and takes 10x more effort than couch coop but I put in the time to do it right.

c. I have nothing against Single Player games. I can see where the confusion is, I keep calling it "couch coop" even though I just mean couch multiplayer. We are simply talking about online multiplayer and that requires no interference with SP at all. Adding COOP to a game can just destroy it. (IE: Fear 3)

Their existing multiplayer mode would work fantastically online. (one exception would be to increase the player count to at least 4)

d. I have no doubt that later games will have full online features.

I'm trying to figure out how you've suddenly come to the conclusion that the Wii U Version of every game that's multiplat with online... doesn't have online.

Take the Wii for instance. No matter how butchered the Wii version of World at War was.... it still had friggin' online.

I have yet to mention a game that is on another platform that does have online and said it wont have online on the WiiU. The closest I've come to saying that is Assassin's Creed III hasn't been confirmed. Established franchises would never leave such a critical feature out of a game like Call of Duty.

Hell I've barely said that anything WONT have online other than ZombiU. Usually I said its unconfirmed and looking like it wont.

Who gives?

Wii Sports didn't come with the Wii in japan so you can't bet on that one quote. I personally think it will just because how....not crappy but how not...good it is.

They were outstanding and revolutionary games for their time.

Who knows how they were able to so spectacularly ruin it on 360.

Everything from character, storyline, mechanics, lighting issues, the list goes on.

If they could recapture the essence of the n64 games and bring them to the new generation, we'd have something.

Yeah I remember the exact moment I knew it would suck. I was watching an interview with the developers and they were answering fan submitted questions; you could tell right away that they were screwed.

Fan question:
"Will the game have the Cerebral Bore?"

Dev:
"uh..no"

Fan question:
"Will the game have the Razor Wind?"

Dev:
"uh..no"

On and on like that for the whole Q/A. Everything the fans wanted wasn't in the game. They took a comic book based game and turned it into a bland shooter. I hate to say "realistic shooter" because it really wasn't but it lacked all the tech/enemies that were so awesome from the previous games/comics.

Nintendo has never been one to offer many colors on launch consoles. This is understandable as more colors means more cost to them and its much faster to mass produce 1 of something than two of something. (also take into account the boxes etc etc)

If Nintendo were to do 3 different SKUs (I'll just call it versions from now on), that would be 6 different items to ship. This just doesn't seem likely in Nintendo's history. I propose that if there are indeed going to be 3 different versions shipped of the Wii U on launch day; that the Black WiiU would be in an Elite configuration.

$249 Wii U: White
$299 Wii U: White
$349 Wii U: Black



Similar to what Xbox did back in the day. This would cut it down to 3 items to produce and somehow just feels right (to me).

Just a thought.

I wouldn't count on different internal memory sizes. Knowing Nintendo it would be based purely on the bundled items included with the system.

Love it

Last Sunday in November or December (21st-ish) release.

$299.99 - White Console
$349.99 - Elite Black Console w Mario Brothers U

Nintendo Land bundled with all WiiU's everywhere. (or free to download from Nintendo network; too crappy to not be free either way)

$119.99 Game pad
$49.99 Pro controller
$29.99 Zapper

1.25x as powerful as PS3

Problems with Dead Pixels; Nintendo provides an exchange program if there are 3 or more dead pixels on your Game Pad.
Nothing worth playing online for 6 more months. (real online multiplayer, not leaving notes and crap.)
Black Ops 2 not being announced at all or is at least a year away.

I don't know why you would need to convert anything, just add it next to your PS3/360 and keep on playing. I have every Microsoft/Nintendo/Sony/Sega console ever made all enjoying the same space. (Virtual boy is a little lonely though)

I wouldn't count on a hardware revision. It takes months and months to produce enough hardware to supply the world and no way they replaced all the ones they made over the last 2+ months.

Well I present to you Balloon Fight! (AKA Balloon Trip Breeze)

http://wiiudaily.com...meplay-trailer/

I need my Dry Bones. (yeah you heard me)

That's the funniest video I've seen in days!

I love it how we all complain, but every time anyone comes back from trying the Wii U they always tell us that this is the funest game.

Do you really see grown ass people sitting around the house blowing a balloon around? Even when I was a kid I would be like "Screw this crap, I'd rather go to church." (If you knew me that would sound much worse than it does)

The game has to be free. It has no online multiplayer (so it appears), just a lobby room where you can see people standing around. Wii Sports 2 would of been a much better idea. I waited for bowling and golf to go online for the entire life span of the wii.

There may not be a middle sku, or there may be one for USA/CAN/AUS etc and not for japan. (Looks like i was right about the black wiiu though)

My question is if the controller has any motion devices at all. I know its a pro controller and its trying to get away from motion controls but it kind of limits it otherwise.

I resent them for getting such a perfect bundle.