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#81 MatrixChicken

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Posted 08 March 2015 - 09:19 PM

Ok, I have finished what is probably the whole version of the song I was working on. Before I make it public, I'd like some opinions just incase I need to change something that I missed. As for mastering, this is the best I can do at the moment lol. So I can always make a remastered version later if needed.

 

 

Also how do you make a track private, but still viewable to others.

 

Can't listen :L

 

Make it private, then click the share button. It'll have a special URL that allows people with the link to listen to it.


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Posted 08 March 2015 - 09:31 PM

Can't listen :L

 

Make it private, then click the share button. It'll have a special URL that allows people with the link to listen to it.

I changed it



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Posted 08 March 2015 - 09:38 PM

I changed it

 

I'm really not big into prog house so I'm probably not the best one to talk, but somewhere after 3:00 the bass line starts playing one note over and over, and it just doesn't really fit with the chord progression IMO.


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Posted 09 March 2015 - 01:27 PM

Ok, I have finished what is probably the whole version of the song I was working on. Before I make it public, I'd like some opinions just incase I need to change something that I missed. As for mastering, this is the best I can do at the moment lol. So I can always make a remastered version later if needed.

 

 

Also how do you make a track private, but still viewable to others.

 

Its nice! Like the feel of the track.

 

But the pluck in the intro and the bass isn't in the same key. Also cut some low freqs (not high pass just lower them a tad) on the main synth to lessen some of the mud.


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Posted 09 March 2015 - 02:04 PM

Its nice! Like the feel of the track.

 

But the pluck in the intro and the bass isn't in the same key. Also cut some low freqs (not high pass just lower them a tad) on the main synth to lessen some of the mud.

I thought there was something wrong with the bass lol. And when you say main synth, are you talking about the plucky chords, or the pads in the middle?



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Posted 09 March 2015 - 02:25 PM

I thought there was something wrong with the bass lol. And when you say main synth, are you talking about the plucky chords, or the pads in the middle?

 

Probably both needs some less freqs in the 300-600 area haha. Actually the mix sounds probably very nice on most headphones but I have learnt to lessen on some stuff that make tracks sound awesome on headphones like muddy freqs and high bass. Cause when I put it in the car or something, it's a complete disaster.

 

One good tip is that if you solo a track, it doesn't need to sound awesome. Its supposed to sound awesome in conjuction with the mix. Before I had this mindset I always thought all sounds had to sound great in solo so my leads all had layered high freqs, my bass and piano/pluck always clashed and so on.


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Posted 09 March 2015 - 10:52 PM

Not sure if you guys are interested in this type of music, but I made a little hip hop beat. :P Never really tried it before, but here it is...

 

 

And I assure you the intense compression is intentional. I wanted to make it sound like authentic amateur hip hop. :P


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Posted 10 March 2015 - 02:07 PM

No change of synths but instead, I changed the processing of the sounds.

 

 

 

How I imagine Matrix in FL Studio:

if-i-can-do-it-tomorrow-i-wont-do-it-tod

finish ur tracks bruhh


Guys lets share our how our project timelines looks like.

 

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Posted 10 March 2015 - 02:41 PM

Probably both needs some less freqs in the 300-600 area haha. Actually the mix sounds probably very nice on most headphones but I have learnt to lessen on some stuff that make tracks sound awesome on headphones like muddy freqs and high bass. Cause when I put it in the car or something, it's a complete disaster.

 

One good tip is that if you solo a track, it doesn't need to sound awesome. Its supposed to sound awesome in conjuction with the mix. Before I had this mindset I always thought all sounds had to sound great in solo so my leads all had layered high freqs, my bass and piano/pluck always clashed and so on.

Yeah frequencies are not my strong suit lol. I actually did that car thing today. I played it in my car and it just sounded a lot more empty. Besides my chords though, I actually write the rest of my song with the chords playing in the background. I think a lot of my problems come from a lack of knowing how to master better haha. I'll mess around with a couple of things though and see if I can improve on any of it though.


I guess I'll post a screen shot of my project file once I have finished touching it up.



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Posted 10 March 2015 - 09:50 PM

How I imagine Matrix in FL Studio:

if-i-can-do-it-tomorrow-i-wont-do-it-tod

finish ur tracks bruhh

 

Pretty much... :P

 

I'll try to whip something up soon. I really want to livestream... D:


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Posted 11 March 2015 - 06:25 AM

Yeah frequencies are not my strong suit lol. I actually did that car thing today. I played it in my car and it just sounded a lot more empty. Besides my chords though, I actually write the rest of my song with the chords playing in the background. I think a lot of my problems come from a lack of knowing how to master better haha. I'll mess around with a couple of things though and see if I can improve on any of it though.


I guess I'll post a screen shot of my project file once I have finished touching it up.

 

If it sounds empty then it might be some phasing issues. Chech the mix in mono before exporting it. Otherwise you might be compressing badly (or not at all?) A dynamic track in a car stereo gets really quiet. Do you run the mix through some kind of brickwall limiter? It's necessary to some degree if you want it to get louder.

 

A basic mastering chain should look like this:

1. EQ

2. Compression

3. Limiter

 

Mine looks like this:

 

First some mixing things I do which is taken in consideration when I master:

Drums routed to a EQ n compress, same with all my keys and bass but the keys and bass are then routed to another single channel that is slightly compressed with the fx channel. The sub bass goes directly to the master channel cause I want the most pure sine wave I can get.

 

Then all those are routed to the master channel which isn't actually the master channel its a seperate channel which I just routed everything to. I do this to be able to simply turn off my whole mix if I wanna reference it to some reference track I have.

 

In the "master channel" I have:

1. EQ

2. Multiband compressor and limiter (aka dynamics)

3. Sometimes I have a saturator here

4. Sometimes I have a stereo widener here

5. Brickwall limiter

6. Sometimes an post EQ

 

My RMS is around -8 dB in the breakdowns, -6 in the intros and outros and around -3 in the drop. The mix is always as loud (in RMS) in mono as it is in stereo.


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Posted 12 March 2015 - 09:08 AM

Streaming on my twitch channel right now! :3 http://www.twitch.tv/thunderfilms


Aaaaaand, here's what I did over the past few hours. :P


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Posted 12 March 2015 - 04:25 PM

Streaming on my twitch channel right now! :3 http://www.twitch.tv/thunderfilms


Aaaaaand, here's what I did over the past few hours. :P

That's awesome. I wish I could have been there to see you make it XD



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Posted 12 March 2015 - 06:34 PM

That's awesome. I wish I could have been there to see you make it XD

 

I wish you were there too... :<

 

Aw well, I finished it, sooooo... Here it is: "Finish Line"! :P

 

 

Thoughts? :3


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Posted 12 March 2015 - 06:47 PM

I wish you were there too... :<

 

Aw well, I finished it, sooooo... Here it is: "Finish Line"! :P

 

 

Thoughts? :3

wait... wait.... wait.......

 

wait....

 

wait...........

 

WAIT!

 

WHAT!

 

WHAAAAAT!!!!!

 

WHAT!!!!!!!!

 

You finished something! That's amazing! 

 

 

Also the song is wonderful! XDDDD Nice job. I can tell that you worked hard on it too.



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Posted 12 March 2015 - 06:50 PM

wait... wait.... wait.......

 

wait....

 

wait...........

 

WAIT!

 

WHAT!

 

WHAAAAAT!!!!!

 

WHAT!!!!!!!!

 

You finished something! That's amazing! 

 

 

Also the song is wonderful! XDDDD Nice job. I can tell that you worked hard on it too.

 

xD

 

Thanks, bruh. :3 It means a lot. I really feel like it's the best song I've done. Just feels good for some reason...

 

Oh, and if you want to watch it, here's an archive of my stream this morning. Might be interesting. :P http://www.twitch.tv...309575?t=13m38s


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Posted 12 March 2015 - 07:00 PM

xD

 

Thanks, bruh. :3 It means a lot. I really feel like it's the best song I've done. Just feels good for some reason...

 

Oh, and if you want to watch it, here's an archive of my stream this morning. Might be interesting. :P http://www.twitch.tv...309575?t=13m38s

Cool. I was actually looking for this lol.

 

Also, I have decided to change my name and soundcloud link just incase you wanted to update the main post on the first page. I'll probably keep it like this (unless I think that it's really boring).

 

So my new name is Double Tap

 

and here's a link: http://soundcloud.co...ubletapofficial


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Posted 12 March 2015 - 07:02 PM

Cool. I was actually looking for this lol.

 

Also, I have decided to change my name and soundcloud link just incase you wanted to update the main post on the first page. I'll probably keep it like this (unless I think that it's really boring).

 

So my new name is Double Tap

 

and here's a link: http://soundcloud.co...ubletapofficial

 

Ah, thanks for notifying me! I like it. :)


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Posted 13 March 2015 - 09:49 PM

So I need to know if the bass is in key yet. I thought it was before, but I guess it wasn't lol (even though it was just a copy and paste of the lower notes from the chords)

 



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Posted 14 March 2015 - 07:52 AM

So I need to know if the bass is in key yet. I thought it was before, but I guess it wasn't lol (even though it was just a copy and paste of the lower notes from the chords)

 

 

The thing is, even if you play in the same scale with both the bass and chords. They still might not harmonise well. This example did sound better but I kinda feel like the bass needs to chill down a little if that makes sense. A more chilled rythm cause remember the bass is essentially a rythmic and a melodic instrument.


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