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#4551 Wii U Graphical Demo in case you missed it.
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Nice picture I've found at deviantart.
#4552 I think there's a handheld better then the 3DS.
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on 10 June 2011 - 06:23 AM
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The posts are gettin offtopic enough so let's derail the thread even further.
Here's some gameplay of the new Kirby Wii
On topic: You know, it's just that Sony should quit the gaming business from my point of view or at least stop making new hardware.
Firstly, they hardly make any money with their hardware. It took years for the PS3 to start to pay off (if it even pays off at all, I don't know), and it most probably will be the same for the PSVita.
It will be almost impossible for them to include a decent battery if they want to make money, and with 1-2 hours of battery life, there really is now way any intelligent person is going to buy it.
There simply is no reason why to buy it. Everything the PSVita can do can be done better by the PS3, except the touchscreen thing.
On the other hand, the PS3 has motion controls, the PSVita doesn't. This means, the PSVita is either going to fail, or Sony will once again lose lots of money.
Secondly, graphics won't be as important anymore for future gens.
The only thing you buy a Sony console/handheld for is high-end-tech, whereas Nintendo loves to invent things the dudebro/"hardcore" crowd likes to call "gimmicky".
In my eyes, these Nintendo inventions are what distinguishes console/handheld gaming from PC gaming. CPUs, GPUs and memory are getting better all the time, it's ridiculous to base one's console on better specs once they don't matter as much anymore.
Don't understand me wrong, I usually don't take the Nintendo-fanboy-"graphics don't matter!"-approach. IMO, graphics have been a driving force in video game history, but many up-to-date video games already look extremely real. I'm perfectly content with sub-PS360 graphics if I get unique gameplay in return.
Sadly, Sony showed with the PSVita that they're going to follow their path of including cutting-edge processing tech and using every Ninty innovation twice.
What I want to say, is... Look at the SNES controller. It has two shoulder buttons. Then, the N64 controller adds some other buttons and an analog stick. The PSOne controller has four shoulder buttons and two analog sticks. Wohoo, using an innovation from the competitor twice should appeal twice as much to the gamers, right?
Later, one player could use two black WiiMotes with an ugly orb at the same time. Two swords instead of one sword would be cool, right? Frankly, yes, but it isn't innovative.
And now the latest Sony invention: take a PSP, give it a second analog stick and use Nintendo's last innovation twice. There you have it, two touchscreens. EXTREMELY innovative.
Here's some gameplay of the new Kirby Wii
On topic: You know, it's just that Sony should quit the gaming business from my point of view or at least stop making new hardware.
Firstly, they hardly make any money with their hardware. It took years for the PS3 to start to pay off (if it even pays off at all, I don't know), and it most probably will be the same for the PSVita.
It will be almost impossible for them to include a decent battery if they want to make money, and with 1-2 hours of battery life, there really is now way any intelligent person is going to buy it.
There simply is no reason why to buy it. Everything the PSVita can do can be done better by the PS3, except the touchscreen thing.
On the other hand, the PS3 has motion controls, the PSVita doesn't. This means, the PSVita is either going to fail, or Sony will once again lose lots of money.
Secondly, graphics won't be as important anymore for future gens.
The only thing you buy a Sony console/handheld for is high-end-tech, whereas Nintendo loves to invent things the dudebro/"hardcore" crowd likes to call "gimmicky".
In my eyes, these Nintendo inventions are what distinguishes console/handheld gaming from PC gaming. CPUs, GPUs and memory are getting better all the time, it's ridiculous to base one's console on better specs once they don't matter as much anymore.
Don't understand me wrong, I usually don't take the Nintendo-fanboy-"graphics don't matter!"-approach. IMO, graphics have been a driving force in video game history, but many up-to-date video games already look extremely real. I'm perfectly content with sub-PS360 graphics if I get unique gameplay in return.
Sadly, Sony showed with the PSVita that they're going to follow their path of including cutting-edge processing tech and using every Ninty innovation twice.
What I want to say, is... Look at the SNES controller. It has two shoulder buttons. Then, the N64 controller adds some other buttons and an analog stick. The PSOne controller has four shoulder buttons and two analog sticks. Wohoo, using an innovation from the competitor twice should appeal twice as much to the gamers, right?
Later, one player could use two black WiiMotes with an ugly orb at the same time. Two swords instead of one sword would be cool, right? Frankly, yes, but it isn't innovative.
And now the latest Sony invention: take a PSP, give it a second analog stick and use Nintendo's last innovation twice. There you have it, two touchscreens. EXTREMELY innovative.
#4562 I think there's a handheld better then the 3DS.
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Saying the PS3 does everything VIta does better is just an odd statement
Well, I didn't know that the battery life actually is that long. Ignore that particular statement, it only makes sense (at least a bit) if you think of the Vita as a handheld with limited mobility, which it would be with a battery life of less than 2-2.5 hours. I've got to admit it's better than I thought, though it's still not innovative enough. Sony did make a step forwards, but they have to innovate on a much bigger scale if they want me to like them
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#4564 Alleged PSN hackers caught
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on 10 June 2011 - 11:26 AM
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Before you guys start ranting about cruel hackers, let me say that the word "hacker" is commonly misused. "Real" hackers usually don't brick other people's PCs and don't steal data from servers. Please remember to use the word "cracker" in a case like the PSN one - that's the name "good" hackers use for "bad" ones. If you see someone sp34k1n9 l33tsp34k or talking about h4xing n00bx0rz, it's a h4x0r brainless cracker.
#4613 WiiU 's AMD GPU supports Eyefinity
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http://www.amd.com/u...2011june07.aspx
In this press release, AMD mentions the custom Radeon HD GPU made for the WiiU to have "...high-definition graphics support; rich multimedia acceleration and playback; and multiple display support."
The multiple display support hints at Eyefinity, which is a feature of 5XXX or newer Radeon HD cards.
Because the GPU Nintendo uses is a custom one, it may still be that they took a 4XXX Radeon HD card and modified it to use Eyefinity, but that's unlikely as the 5XXX series uses less power at a similar performance. And by the way, Eyefinity supports up to 6 screens AFAIK, so we can still hope for the WiiU to allow more than one/two new controllers at the same time...
In this press release, AMD mentions the custom Radeon HD GPU made for the WiiU to have "...high-definition graphics support; rich multimedia acceleration and playback; and multiple display support."
The multiple display support hints at Eyefinity, which is a feature of 5XXX or newer Radeon HD cards.
Because the GPU Nintendo uses is a custom one, it may still be that they took a 4XXX Radeon HD card and modified it to use Eyefinity, but that's unlikely as the 5XXX series uses less power at a similar performance. And by the way, Eyefinity supports up to 6 screens AFAIK, so we can still hope for the WiiU to allow more than one/two new controllers at the same time...
#4648 Hey, How are ya?
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Welcome!
#4684 WiiU 's AMD GPU supports Eyefinity
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on 11 June 2011 - 10:57 PM
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This thread originally was about that the WiiU is likely to get a Radeon HD 5XXX, but if you guys want to derail this thread that badly, I will join in :DIs there some possibility that Nintendo could use some kind of short range W-LAN to connect additional WiiUMotes? This "U-LAN" would be WiiUMote-only, another W-LAN device wouldn't be accepted by the console. The controller is able to play games without the console, so it should be able to have some kind of config screen where you can see all U-LAN networks nearby and join once you're approved of by the console. The controller that is shipped with the WiiU uses "his" WiiU as a standard connection, so it will join there automatically without having to be approved of.W-LAN is a very fast kind of connection, so there most likely won't be any bandwith issues. Do you think this is possible?
#4685 I think there's a handheld better then the 3DS.
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Red is my favorite color for Link in both SSBMelee and Soul Calibur 2, so I would LOVE it if he had red clothes in the next Zelda =)
#4686 What's the hardest and easiest game you've ever played?
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on 11 June 2011 - 11:12 PM
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Hardest: Cave Story
Easiest: I usually don't play easy games, but I guess this would be NSMBWii. The first 8 world were too easy to motivate me to play world 9; I know world 9 is harder, but collecting all coins is no fun IMO.
EDIT: Formatted the text properly. The 3DS browser surely has some flaws...
Easiest: I usually don't play easy games, but I guess this would be NSMBWii. The first 8 world were too easy to motivate me to play world 9; I know world 9 is harder, but collecting all coins is no fun IMO.
EDIT: Formatted the text properly. The 3DS browser surely has some flaws...
#4709 WiiU 's AMD GPU supports Eyefinity
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Doing some quick calculations, streaming a 1280x720 image to the controller at 60 FPS will require roughly 158 MB of bandwidth per second. Add a fairly standard 16-bit 44100 Hz stream of stereo sound to that, as well as sensor, touchscreen, and button readings, and we're at around 160 MB per second, give or take a megabyte.
I'm no expert, but wouldn't streaming a 1280x720 image at 60 FPS and 32-bit color depth require 210.94 MBps?
On the other hand, if we take the rumored 854x480 screen and stream a video signal with 30 FPS and 16-bit color depth, it would need 23.46 MBps for the video. This way you could even use 5 WiiUMotes at the same time.
Wait a second. I'm definitely doing it wrong, because I calculated that you would need 0.46 GBps for Full HD video at 60 FPS and 32 bit color. That would be 1668.55 GB for one hour - this just can't be!
Does someone know how to properly calculate the bandwidth needed to stream a video signal?
EDIT: By the way, a 1920x1080 screen has 2,073,600 pixels, 4 854x480 screens have 409,920*4 = 1,639,680 pixels. The total pixel count would be 3,713,280 pixels. With 60 FPS and 32-bit color depth, 0.83 GB of data every second - if my method of calculating this is right, of course
EDIT2: Wait a second, the rumored screen size of 854x480 hasn't been mentioned here yet, right? Anyways, now it has
#4712 Nintendo's first fail...
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The PS360 fanboys ranting about the "inferior" graphics only proved they don't like their own systems. NeoGAF is quite a funny place thanks to these ridiculous fanboys.
#4828 Greeting fellow Nintendo Fans!
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Welcome!
#4829 Hello
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on 13 June 2011 - 02:05 AM
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Welcome!
#4830 TheWiiU.com's One-Stop Sig Shop!
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I'm going to edit my sig once again. Will take some time tough.
#5895 "The Wii U Controller Needs Analog Sticks and Triggers"
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on 14 June 2011 - 10:41 AM
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This. The circle pad is fine, but it very simply is not as good as analog. Nintendo will hopefully realize this, but I wouldn't count on it.
Actually, I start to like circle pads much more than analog sticks. Don't really know why, though.
#5916 What do YOU want the Wii U to be for the consumer?
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Define hardcore.
In my eyes, a "hardcore" gamer is someone who plays solely for the sake of gaming and having fun while doing it.
CoD is even more casual than Wii Sports from my point of view. The casual gamers playing Wii Sports might not care about gaming at all, but they're having fun while gaming. Everyone I know who plays CoD thinks of people who don't like CoD or Battlefield as "nerds". Thus, they don't play because of wanting to play games, they play for the coolness factor of FPS's while denying that they're gamers themselves. This is not casual gaming, it's even worse, it's the betrayal of gaming. And that makes them not even a bit hardcore at all. Well, maybe hardcore dumb.
If you're looking for real hardcore games though, games with a high difficulty, with a good gameplay, with huge worlds, count me in.
And no, I'm not a philosopher.
In my eyes, a "hardcore" gamer is someone who plays solely for the sake of gaming and having fun while doing it.
CoD is even more casual than Wii Sports from my point of view. The casual gamers playing Wii Sports might not care about gaming at all, but they're having fun while gaming. Everyone I know who plays CoD thinks of people who don't like CoD or Battlefield as "nerds". Thus, they don't play because of wanting to play games, they play for the coolness factor of FPS's while denying that they're gamers themselves. This is not casual gaming, it's even worse, it's the betrayal of gaming. And that makes them not even a bit hardcore at all. Well, maybe hardcore dumb.
If you're looking for real hardcore games though, games with a high difficulty, with a good gameplay, with huge worlds, count me in.
And no, I'm not a philosopher.
#5932 What 1st Party Franchise Do You Want At Launch?
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StarFox!
Though I wouldn't say "no" to a new Okami, but... dang, it's a 3rd party franchise.
Though I wouldn't say "no" to a new Okami, but... dang, it's a 3rd party franchise.
#5945 The Wii U is 50% more powerful than the Xbox 360 and PS3?
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Ignore the clock speed. The GC's clock speed was a lot slower than the XBOX's, but the XBOX still was only a tad better.
#5956 Alleged PSN hackers caught
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Anonymous; The only army stronger than a religious one.
If they dare to attack Ninty, they'll lose. 'Cause I'm gonna found a new religion, a religion with Miyamoto-sama as god, and I'm gonna start a crusade! HELL YEAH, ANON'S GONNA BE OWNED BY US NINTY FANBOYS!
#5959 What are you playing right now? System and favorite genre?
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Wii: Okami
DS: Pokemon White/Okamiden
3DS: Super Street Fighter IV
PC: Grand Theft Auto IV
Favourite Genre: Adventure and Racing
You like Okami? Awesome taste. Should give you 1+ for this, but... I won't
#5965 What's the hardest and easiest game you've ever played?
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on 14 June 2011 - 11:35 AM
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Hardest: Dwarf Fortress: Hardest damn game ever made, stupid fish always kill me >.>
I still don't get how to play this game, let alone be good at it
#6058 Forum Fighters
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OK then! Let's wait one last day to give David's followers a chance to sign up. (Thanks for notifying me, Epic Kirby, I forgot about this thread after reading such a huge batch of new posts!)
#6592 Anybody getting Zelda on sunday?
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C'mon guys, it's a remake, and it isn't as good as it could have been. I'm not gonna buy it for the full price only for the Boss Rush Mode and the 3D effect.
#6719 Ghost Recon Online free with Wii U?
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Maybe there will be 2 or more bundles? A WiiU for "casual" gamers bundled with WiiSportsU and another one bundled with GRO.
#6732 What Consoles do you have?
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on 15 June 2011 - 03:19 AM
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Super Nintendo Entertainment System (sold)
Sega Master System (sold)
Nintendo 64
GameCube
Wii
Game Boy Pocket
Nintendo DS
Nintendo 3DS
Considering half of these consoles/handhelds are as old as or even older than I am, I guess you can say that I have a life. It's called video gaming.
Sega Master System (sold)
Nintendo 64
GameCube
Wii
Game Boy Pocket
Nintendo DS
Nintendo 3DS
Considering half of these consoles/handhelds are as old as or even older than I am, I guess you can say that I have a life. It's called video gaming.
