What Nintendo needs right now is a decent action adventure shooter like Metroid Prime on the Wii U!!!  They were one of the pioneers of this genre for crying out loud.  They also need  to revive IPs like Eternal Darkness, Starfox, FireEmblem, Custom Robo, F-Zero(FRN would make a great F0  Nintendo) etc for their home console.  They should tap into funding more quality indie titles like Festival of Magic, Shovel Knight, and SteamWorlds to fill in the gaps as well.

Fire Emblem isn't dead. We just got Awakening on 3ds last year and SMTXFE is coming out. Metroid has already been announced as in the planning. StarFox was at E3 and has a 2015 release date. Fast Racing Neo will take care of F zero and they have over 80 new IP's the last 13 years. They have Fatal Frame just need to bring it west for horror. They also have a Action/Shooter coming up from the creator of Ninja Gaiden in Devils Third.

I am aware that some of these games have come out on the 3DS; but they have not come out in years for a home console.  Metroid Prime for example have been missing from the home console scene almost 7 years and some games like FE, StarFox, F0, Custom Robo, Battallion Wars, etc are even longer.  Besides, W101, Drillon, Sakura Samurai, NintendoLand and Splatoon what other IP's have Nintendo created?  I know they have a backlog of IP's but they rarely use them regardless of how well received they are by the public for example Eternal Darkness.  I for one wished that Nintendo funded and co-owned Shadow of the Eternals and made it into a sequel to Eternal Darkness rather than funding a superfical game like Devil's 3rd from Itakagi. 

Let just enjoy Wii U for what it is. We just need gameplay now. Let's stop with the crazy need to try and prove Wii U is not underpowered. Mainstream gaming has made up their mind on what Wii U is.

AMEN!!! The Wii U is fine for what it is...Nintendo games in full HD resolution!!! Let the fools still thing that the Wii U has "only 160 SPU"  and has less GFLOPS than the X360. The trolls will never see how good of a system it really is.  I for one have been enjoying Mario 3D World, MK8, W101, Pikmin 3, ZombieU (yes ZombieU), Child of Light, Rayman Legends, Trine 2 etc.  I am looking forward to picking up Bayo 2 , Hyrule Warriors, Smash, and Captain Toad.

Confirmed that this nice looking game is running at 720p @ 60fps, a nice thing to know; and shows that the Wii U MosDef has some muscle.

http://www.gonintend...n-at-720p-60fps

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We will just have to agree to disagree as many have already proven (check the links) that the Wii U GPU has 320 SPU's.http://www.techpower.../wii-u-gpu.html   http://www.eurogamer...inally-revealed . Only a few crackpots according to some in Gaf, Eurogamer, Beyond 3D, VGC are undercounting the SPU's for their demented pleasure; and believe that the SPUs are 160 Anyways, I'll stick to what I see instead of all that technical jargon which in the end of the day means null to enjoying beatiful Nintendo software.

Nintendo really needs to pick these guys up as their exclusive developers.  I know they only have 3-4 legit games as their IP but they could sure help Retro, Monolith Soft, and even Nintendo tap into the potential of the Wii U.

 

It's part of a dlc pack coming out . 

wow...I ordered both packs not even knowing it had it!!! Anyways, FRN would make a proper sequel for F-Zero!!!  I hope Nintendo somehow wakes up and funds these quality games.  I agree with the w101 and Bayo2 funding but I have doubts about D3rd and think they missed an opportunity with Shadow of the Eternals.

I hope Nintendo wakes up and rebadges this into the new F-Zero for the Wii U.  The game looks crazy beautiful!!!

It does look amazing... the amount of detail in the environments shown thus far for a racing game is pretty amazing. 60fps too. I am excited for the fzero course in Mk8. 

There's an F0  course in MK8?    Anyways, this would make a great farmed out F0 for Nintendo if they do choose to release the game on the Wii U.  In fact, SoE was a good ED sequel which I was surprised that Nintendo didn't fund to make a sequel.

Somebody start a petition for Nintendo to add these guys to their stable of studios.  I know that Silicon Knights left a bad taste in their mouth; but Shin'en seems to be a lot more professional.  Whoever picks ups Shin'en not only gets their talent but a few decent IP's as well (Jett Rockett, Nano Assault, FRN, etc).

Yeah, I always have a soft spot for reality based fantasy too.

People arent comparing the games, just the visual themes, which 15 very blatantly 'borrowed' from Xenoblade and X.

Its pretty conspicuous too. The game was shown off many times before, had nothing remotely X like about it. It dissapears for an extended period of time after X is shown off, and resurfaces with a new director and X styled imagery duct taped all over it. Thats what we are comparing.

And while we are mocking the blatant copying and car full of beleiber fanboys a little, I know I would be lying if I said aping X wasnt working, it appeals to me much, MUCH more than it did pre X copying.

UNFORTUNATELY, unlike X... Its not looking like its going to be remotely close to X in terms of open world exploration... Or even open world at all.

Given all of the interviews, and now the latest trailer, it does indeed look to be styled after the action games Nomura keeps likening it too, complete with an on rails adventure, and that highway looks like its your rails, looks like you get off when the game tells you can, tells you to go do your scripted events in the scripted areas and missions, and then get right back on the rails to go to the next attraction.

3Dude summed it up pretty well; you just left out the part where plot and strory will be typical SE where it either confuses the hell out of you with so many twist; or a boring, predictable cliched script that once again is covered in eye candy.  Seriously think that SE had gone downhill since letting go of Sakaguchi san.

They seem like two different games to me. I don't see the point in comparing them. Both are probably going to be great anyway. On the subject of Final Fantasy XV, this is probably the most i've been excited about a Final Fantasy game in a very long time. It's an interesting concept, a fantasy world based on reality. The characters move so smoothly in combat and the graphics are pretty gorgeous.  I think it's going to be pretty cool. Xenoblade X looks pretty cool too (even though I don't have a Wii U).

check out the two videos I posted earlier; FF15 design is really influenced by XBC and XB!!!

Grandia series perfected Turn Based. FFIV took it to ATB. CT polished it. Grandia revitalized and perfected it.

 

Last Grandia game I played was for the Dreamcast!!!  Man I loved that system...just like the Wii U the console is much loved by the few who own them!!!

FF15 most definitely drew inspiration from Xenoblade Chronicles.  It maybe a step or two above XBC in terms of graphics but originality and gameplay seems to favor XBC over FF15.   Also with SE predictable and cliche plots recently; XBC also is a step above that!!!  It's gonna be a good battle between these 2 rpgs.  I think XBC will out score FF15 in reviews but FF15 will mosdef win in the sales dept.  I predict XBC will sell between 1.2-1.5 mil units lifetime and FF15 will get >5mil easily

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I could only pick either this or Hyrule Warriors before Christmas.  It's such a hard decision...any suggestions which might be a better day one purchase.

okay ppl Bayo2 it is!!!

Bayonetta you get 2 games for the price of one. Tho I am biased as I love PG games in general. Warriors games I enjoy but it's more niche as people either like or hate those games. Bayonetta is just the best Action game ever made period and Bayo2 can likely top it.

 

HW I think you need to ask yourself how big a Zelda fan are you and have you played a Warriors game before. If not might be best to try some others first to get a basic idea. HW is not a reskin so other Warriors games don't give a full idea but a basic idea what to expect.

Thanks, the 2 games in 1 does sound mighty tempting!!!  Anyways, I've played a little bit of Warriors on the 3DS and it was somewhat boring as I did not know any of the characters or the point to the story.  However, having a story based on Hylian lore might make it more interesting to us Nintendo gamers.  By the way does Bayonetta play similar to DmC, Darkstalkers, or Dante's Inferno?

I'm hoping this is a good sign on what sales will be like for Bayo2 for the region.  It'll be considered a success if Bayo2 sells ~100K units for the month in the EU alone.

I mean ZombieU sure isn't going to win awards in visuals but it ain't that far from many PS3/360 top tier First Person games.

ZombiU

L4D2

Dead Space 3

Sonic Lost World really has some nice moments with the level design.

 

 

The Wiii U has plenty under the hood for what Nintendo needs. 

I think Zombi U at first got a bad rap because the game looks ok and not spectacular. (time restraints and budget had a lot to do with it) The game has amazing gameplay, there are some times I thought the character models could have been better but some of the scenery.. and again that Wii U lighting helps capture the mood perfectly.

 

Yeah despite the time constraints and lower budget (Ubisoft is unicorn tongueing that this hasn't made a profit) it turned out to be a decent/good game comparable to some mid-late gen games on the Xbox 360!!!

After playing wind waker HD, I don't understand why people still hates cell-shaded Zelda game. It might not be best, but it is still not a bad decision

I actually think this will age better

than this:

which to me would have aged better than these:

more gorgeous Wii U screens from the little console that could:

@sorceror12 agreed despite the supposed superiority in specs of other current gen consoles; Nintendo's artistic style and finally being in HD really makes for beautiful games!!!

I always thought Nintendo Land looks amazing. Especially the lighting... love when the train takes off into the air. It looks stunning. Zelda mini game looks great

I agree simple yet pleasing!!!!

Damn...the Wii U has some beautiful games!!!

I highly recommend reviving this thread here. It is a screen shot thread with some spoilers.

 

http://thewiiu.com/t...poilers-within/

Cool...I'll look into it!!!