So does SEGA retain any actual rights or role in the game? Or has it just officially transferred to Nintendo?

1. Phantom Hourglass

2. Chrono Trigger

3. Radiant Historia

4. Mario 64 DS

5. Final Fanatasy IV

The DS was such a great platform, despite having almost hideous graphical capabilities! Definitely go with Phantom Hourglass before anything else imo. If it wasn't for

the annoying revisting temple, it'd be one of my favourite Zeldas.

what happened to turn based RPG?

Haha they perfected it in FFX so thought the best next move would be to just completely ditch the concept that they'd invented and perfected.

Yeah, I think Microsoft buying Mojang was the almost definite end of this possibility. I'm just glad I've got the Vita version preordered.

Nintendo is definitely getting DLC right. God knows why they took so long to jump on the bandwagon. The Mario Kart 8 DLC is some of the best I've ever bought.

1. Phantom Hourglass

2. Chrono Trigger

3. Advance Wars: Dual Strike

4. Final Fantasy IV

5. Super Mario 64 DS

Such a great library to choose from. Glad to see the 3DS will probably outdo it by the end of its lifespan, in game variety if not sales.

Anyone heard anything of a EU release date? It'd be nice to have had this available in time for the New3DS

I'd love to know what they actually include in their calculations of world size. If there's a lake that's 1mile x 1mile in area with an interesting island at the centre of it, I'm betting they include that whole square mile in their arithmetic. Which is kinda cheating. 

I'd love to see some footage or screenshots of this if anyone's noticed any (the remaster)? If it's a remaster along the same lines as the 3DS Zeldas, id definitely be interested. I'm guessing it's probably more of a Vita style remaster though. Which probably means exactly the same game in a new resolution.

Haha I hope they're not spending too much on the budget for Devil's Third. Cos no-one's buying the damn thing.

Definitely be getting this to go with my new3DS. Unless it gets the worst reviews in the world. It's got 7/10 written all over it!

That's some pretty heavy Bethesda criticism. I do agree on what you're calling spatial compression as a form of bad game design. The difference between Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 3 is a great example of this. Mass Effect 3 is so clearly designed to appeal to a mainstream audience that you have to have a consistent list of attractions at every single location in the game. Mass Effect 1 feels more like a more believable universe. Planets you explore are mostly barren and empty. There are whole areas in the various "hub" locations that are completely meaningless, but are simply there to be explored. I remember 1 part on the Citadel, you run down a long corridor to someone's office. There's no-one in there. And nothing of interest throughout the entire game. That's actually a good thing. It makes it a more believable world.

Always loved the first worlds in 2D mario games. The nice green grassy places. Can't remember what it's called in NSMBU though. I've really stopped paying attention to any of the lore in Mario games.

Nobody's hyping it up ether. Still have no idea if its going to be good then.

Well they've been almost silent about it. And the stuff we have seen looked incredibly last-gen and lacked any memorable style or character. Compare some of the screens to Bayonetta 2 and it's just an instant loss.

Pretty sure a western release is coming. If I recall, Bravely Default actually sold well in EU and NA.

Yep. The non-Japanese sales outnumbered the Japanese sales by a fair way. We'll almost definitely be getting this. Now we just need them to announce FF Explorers and DQ7.

I'm not buying this rumour. I doubt they'll do any more Zelda in the near future. Nintendo don't tend to oversaturate a genre. I'd much rather see another 3D Mario. The sunshine remake would be birlliant. 

Wrong. Dragon Quest IX sold 1 million units in the US alone. DQ9 became the best selling DQ game of all time. Bravely Default sold 1 million units. Fire Emblem Awakening sold close to 1 million when it needed 240 thousand to be successful.

 

Not only do they sell. They have been setting sales records.

Fire Emblem is probably closer to 2 million at this point. It's at 1.5million physical sales. Add somewhere between 10-20 percent for digital. It's the best selling in the franchise by quite a way!

if Nintendo's claim is correct yes. They claim the size of Kyoto. So Zelda U is maybe double the size of XCX.

Can I have a reference to that?

This is news to me too.

http://www.gengame.n...to-kyoto-japan/

http://nintendoevery...to-as-his-base/

Hmmmm, I'm not convinced that was necessarily meant literally. He could've just meant that as a way of saying "it's huge."

When you look at the world map on that preview video, it doesn't look that big. Certainly not as big as XCX! Of course, maybe what we saw wasn't the entire world map.

And I can't really imagine them going that large with Zelda. Just doesn't seem to fit the formula.

 

As for people saying "too many remakes/re-releases"...well, you're not wrong. But the thing is, this is pretty much par for the course for Nintendo. The GBC got a few SNES/NES ports, GBA got even more SNES ports, DS/3DS got a few N64 remakes/ports, so it wouldn't surprise me if Nintendo moved to GameCube remakes/ports for the New3DS.

The good thing about remakes is at least you know you're getting a pretty good game. They don't tend to remake bad games. And when it's a game you haven't played for a decade or so (like Majora's Mask), it's pretty much as good as a new game.

What is so hard to understand where he literally uses Kyoto as his base size for Zelda U?

 

 

Been posted in this forum a hundred times how the maps match up. The size matches up.

You have no idea if he meant it literally. It could've just been a bad translation.

Point me at where someone shows that the "size matches up".

He didn't give a specific answer though did he? "Use kyoto as my base" is not a specific answer. "It's 100miles^2" would've been a specific answer.
I have no idea what "as my base" means. And also the sizes of cities are defined in quite a few different ways.

I didn't see anywhere in the post you linked where they calculated the size.

These guys in this thread calculated the size: http://www.ign.com/b...what.454321442/

They got around 16mi^2 for Zelda. 

Whereas XCX is apparently 125mi^2. (about 8 times the size)

I'm not saying I necessarily believe that. Skepticism is better than certainty. Certainty just leaves you looking stupid when you're wrong!

I also look at it like this. We're getting legitimate handheld versions of games that were previously tied to home consoles...and I think that's fantastic. Granted, I still think asking full price for a console to handheld port without adding much of anything new is a bit much, but it's still fantastic that we're getting them.

If it's just a port, I agree full price is bad. But I wouldn't call the 2 Zelda games ports at all. They're complete remakes. I don't think Nintendo have ever charged full price for a port, have they?

Wind waker HD is the closest I guess. I'm not even sure I'd call that a port. But I guess some people might. The line between port and remake is very blurry.