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[Structures]

it's impossible to be concrete on how many times more powerful one system is than another

[The Lonely Koopa]

here is a link about the ps4 cpu http://forwardthinki...r-playstation-4 not sure if this already been talk about or not but it been recently posted on neogaf and honestly just from reaction it sounds like its in the same situation as the wiiu cpu.

[dragomix]

I give u this series of walkthrough on ps3, DONT FORGET to turn the video at 1080p for full quality.... You will notice that killzone 4 is just impressive as killzone 3... with better DOF and better light engine and higher quality of textures.... Wii U proved can do that easy.. lol

I don't know if this is because i just finished play session of Crysis 3 on High details on my PC, but Killzone 3 looks like sh....t!

The point is, i dont think that PS4 could run Crysis 3 on max!

[Plutonas]

have u noticed in ps4 cpu something very important? Jaguar cores designed for tablets and notebooks and everybody understands that tablet mobility hardware, is away to underpowered, be able to produce as much heat and consumption as possible... Thats why 3dude says all the time that wii U cpu is much more powerful... I give an other clue...

Wii CPU 1 weak core, was able to make 7 instructions per clock... Its jaguar core can do 2 instructions per clock.. 3 modern wii U cores = 12 jaguar cores.

Its more than enough for ps4 and 720 to have their physx run on that though... but its away to much for wii U also.

here is a link about the ps4 cpu http://forwardthinki...r-playstation-4 not sure if this already been talk about or not but it been recently posted on neogaf and honestly just from reaction it sounds like its in the same situation as the wiiu cpu.

Edited by Orion, 24 February 2013 - 06:06 PM.

[The Lonely Koopa]

have u noticed in ps4 cpu something very important? Jaguar cores designed for tablets and notebooks and everybody understands that tablet mobility hardware, is away to underpowered, be able to produce as much heat and consumption as possible... Thats why 3dude says all the time that wii U cpu is much more powerful... I give an other clue...

Wii CPU 1 weak core, was able to make 7 instructions per clock... Its jaguar core can do 2 instructions per clock.. 3 modern wii U cores = 12 jaguar cores.

Its more than enough for ps4 and 720 to have their physx run on that though... but its away to much for wii U also.

Is that so hmm after the 8 gigs of gddr5 ram hype is over this might be entertaining considering aswell the ps4 gpu is also only 1.8 tflops.

[Soul]

The gap? We haven't even seen the console yet and we're talking about gaps.

[PS3WIIIUfan]

Most impressive PS4 game graphically, Killzone, is running 1080p@30fps, and still is no match for Crysis 3 on PC at High settings. So PS4 is no beast, as they are trying to tell us!

and where are u getting this info buddie!

[MorbidGod]

here is a link about the ps4 cpu http://forwardthinki...r-playstation-4 not sure if this already been talk about or not but it been recently posted on neogaf and honestly just from reaction it sounds like its in the same situation as the wiiu cpu.

Exactly. The CPU is based off, according to that source, and A4 or A6, which I bet the customizations brings it close to an A8. All of these APU's are mid-range parts. Sony didn't tell us the clock speed, I bet we are looking at 1.6Ghz to 2.0Ghz. Which brings it closer to the Wii U in terms of processing power.

Of course, the Wii U specs that I tend to believe is of course an IBM Power-Based CPU, 1.2Ghz (three or four core, can't remember) with an AMD HD 6xxx Series. Remember, the original leaked HD 4xxx Series model Nintendo choose to start with was what AMD choose to use a basis for future generations. Perfect for an ever changing hardware situation ... which is well documented that Nintendo has changed the specs and updated them quite a lot. Meaning, by the way, launch titles couldn't push out the best graphics because developers had no idea what they were going to end up with.

[routerbad]

Exactly. The CPU is based off, according to that source, and A4 or A6, which I bet the customizations brings it close to an A8. All of these APU's are mid-range parts. Sony didn't tell us the clock speed, I bet we are looking at 1.6Ghz to 2.0Ghz. Which brings it closer to the Wii U in terms of processing power.

Of course, the Wii U specs that I tend to believe is of course an IBM Power-Based CPU, 1.2Ghz (three or four core, can't remember) with an AMD HD 6xxx Series. Remember, the original leaked HD 4xxx Series model Nintendo choose to start with was what AMD choose to use a basis for future generations. Perfect for an ever changing hardware situation ... which is well documented that Nintendo has changed the specs and updated them quite a lot. Meaning, by the way, launch titles couldn't push out the best graphics because developers had no idea what they were going to end up with.

True, IBM stated that the CPU that Nintendo uses for the Wii U is based from Watson, which is Power 7 Core.

[Death Stare Obama]

Or will it be its own separate market?

[dragomix]

and where are u getting this info buddie!

Here:

http://www.neogaf.co...ad.php?t=514479

[Death Stare Obama]

times more powerful

The power level on the PS4 is mighty

Edited by dtrexgaming, 25 February 2013 - 12:22 AM.

[syks-1]

lol ps4 could easily run crisis 3 on max settings from what we have seen lmao even the wii u is running need for speed with pc textures etc at high.

[dragomix]

lol ps4 could easily run crisis 3 on max settings from what we have seen lmao even the wii u is running need for speed with pc textures etc at high.

Are you sure?

http://www.eurogamer...-of-gaming-pcs

My point is, if you want uber graphics, buy a PC. Its stupid to compare consoles in that way! 3DS is way less powerful than Vita, did that help Vita in any way? I dont think so!

Games people, GAMES are important! I still play Super Mario Bros on NES, almost every day, and it has 0 polygons! Game isnt any better if it has 60000 polygons over game that have 0 just because of a polygon count!

Edited by dragomix, 25 February 2013 - 01:55 AM.

[PedanticGamer]

Interestingly Need For Speed Most Wanted's developers has said that the Wii U version will be using the PC version's textures. Suggest that when properly ported the Wii U is more powerful than we thought.

Keep in mind that the pc's textures where far from amazing though.

lol ps4 could easily run crisis 3 on max settings from what we have seen lmao even the wii u is running need for speed with pc textures etc at high.

Well the director of Crysis 3 does not agree with you (personally i'm going to take his word over yours). To put it simply a $2000 to $3000 machine can only just max out Crysis 3, assuming the ps4 sells for around $500 it simply won't be able to have the hardware to run it maxed out at 60fps or better yet at 120fps.

Edited by PedanticGamer, 25 February 2013 - 04:06 AM.

[syks-1]

Keep in mind that the pc's textures where far from amazing though.




Well the director of Crysis 3 does not agree with you (personally i'm going to take his word over yours). To put it simply a $2000 to $3000 machine can only just max out Crysis 3, assuming the ps4 sells for around $500 it simply won't be able to have the hardware to run it maxed out at 60fps or better yet at 120fps.

Where did he say that? im not saying your lying its just i havnt heard anything....did you read on the net what watchdogs developer has said? he said the ps4 would be the BEST of all versions,he even claimed that the pc would be behind the ps4 for a while when it comes to games which has caused a BIG stir with the pc community.

I will try to find the artical although i read it on youtube while looking at watchdog vids.

[Crispy Bacon]

I expect the gap to be decent, but nothing compared to Wii--->PS3/360.

[Alex Wolfers]

If Sony wants to succeed they will have to make the PS4 affordable. A powerhouse would be catastrophic in this economy. As with me and many other gamers I will by a PS4 if it's not outrageous in price.

[syks-1]

Im not saying the ps4 is more powerful than a high end gaming rig but it will still do graphics that look AMAZING and on par with those £3000 rigs but in a different way.

[dragomix]

Im not saying the ps4 is more powerful than a high end gaming rig but it will still do graphics that look AMAZING and on par with those £3000 rigs but in a different way.

NO, its not. Look at this:



No AA, 1080p@30fps, still not better than Crysis 3 on max...

And here is the interview with Crytek about next gen, I posted it already but nobody reads!

http://www.eurogamer...r-of-gaming-pcs

PS4 is 500$ PC that will perform like 600-700$ PC at its best! Wii U is a 350$ custom build machine that will perform like 500$ PC!

P.S. Ubisoft is known PC haters, their PC ports are one off the wurst PC ports out there, except Far Cry 3!

Edited by dragomix, 25 February 2013 - 11:11 AM.