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#121 PedanticGamer

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 11:58 AM

Where did he say that? im not saying your lying its just i havnt heard anything....did you read on the net what watchdogs developer has said? he said the ps4 would be the BEST of all versions,he even claimed that the pc would be behind the ps4 for a while when it comes to games which has caused a BIG stir with the pc community.

I will try to find the artical although i read it on youtube while looking at watchdog vids.


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:14 PM

^^^ dont feel like finding the quote.

how is PS4 better than PC, unless they target low end PC specs, in which case they lie or poorly optimize the game. aka. its a PS3 game with the PS4 version running 1080p while higher framerate then the other next gen consuls. starting ruffly midrange PC is when you see better than PS4. PS4 will beat low-mid range because its a low range optimized for games.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:15 PM

NO, its not. Look at this:

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No AA, 1080p@30fps, still not better than Crysis 3 on max...

And here is the interview with Crytek about next gen, I posted it already but nobody reads!

http://www.eurogamer...r-of-gaming-pcs

PS4 is 500$ PC that will perform like 600-700$ PC at its best! Wii U is a 350$ custom build machine that will perform like 500$ PC!

P.S. Ubisoft is known PC haters, their PC ports are one off the wurst PC ports out there, except Far Cry 3!

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:28 PM

lol dont shoot the messanger,it came from the developers mouth NOT mine :) also the deep down developer has said that the footage shown was all in engine just with the camera angles tweeked,he even said they hope to get it looking better as its early development lol i dont know if its true but they will look pritty stupid when the games released if it dosnt look at least close to that,oh there hoping for it to be a launch game to.

(show me a pc game that comes close to that ;) )

Edited by syks-1, 25 February 2013 - 12:29 PM.


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:37 PM

it's over 9000 lol sorry thought i'd join in there.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:40 PM

lol dont shoot the messanger,it came from the developers mouth NOT mine :) also the deep down developer has said that the footage shown was all in engine just with the camera angles tweeked,he even said they hope to get it looking better as its early development lol i dont know if its true but they will look pritty stupid when the games released if it dosnt look at least close to that,oh there hoping for it to be a launch game to.

(show me a pc game that comes close to that ;) )


It is in engine, but it will be awhile before they can pull off that level of quality on the actual hardware. I hope they do, but I think the Wii U can handle it as well. Especially since everything was in enclosed spaces that don't really stress the need for LOD, DOF, or poly rewriting.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:43 PM

It is in engine, but it will be awhile before they can pull off that level of quality on the actual hardware. I hope they do, but I think the Wii U can handle it as well. Especially since everything was in enclosed spaces that don't really stress the need for LOD, DOF, or poly rewriting.


The pc hasnt come close to that so i doubt the wii u could do it lol :) and they are hoping to get deep down out for launch,who knows for sure though :)

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:46 PM

The pc hasnt come close to that so i doubt the wii u could do it lol :) and they are hoping to get deep down out for launch,who knows for sure though :)


Nope, back in 2008 it was done better, in an open world, rather than in a cave with repeating texture assets. Really the only thing that needed high poly counts in that demo were the characters.

Here is what I'm talking about Cinema 2.0

That is the IGN article with video, here is youtube:

https://www.google.c....42768644,d.eWU

Edited by routerbad, 25 February 2013 - 12:51 PM.


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 01:02 PM

The pc hasnt come close to that so i doubt the wii u could do it lol :) and they are hoping to get deep down out for launch,who knows for sure though :)


You like artistic form, not LOD, witch is not that impressive! The best parameter of what PC and PS4 can do is UE4:

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Guess which one is PC? ;)

Edited by dragomix, 25 February 2013 - 01:03 PM.


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 02:00 PM

It won't matter what the power distance is because:

1: You aren't going to be able to tell as much generation to generation going forward.
2. Someone at BioWare just commented today that because of development costs, you aren't going to see a lot of developers pushing the machines and making them much better looking then they already are. If they did, he estimated some games would have to sell "20-30 million copies" just to break even.

As poorly as the Wii U has sold since Christmas, Sony and Microsoft are going to have a very difficult time selling machines that are in the $400-500 range. Factor in the lack of compatibility, lack of a GoW or Halo for either system, and most of the big name titles coming out on current gen machines too, and there really isn't a reason to make the jump to either without a game in your favorite series coming out that you absolutely must have. Which for me would be Halo 5 (probably 2 years off in other words).

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:22 PM

Fairly solid analysis in this video, watch the whole thing.


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:47 PM

You like artistic form, not LOD, witch is not that impressive! The best parameter of what PC and PS4 can do is UE4:

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Guess which one is PC? ;)

I honestly don't know... They both have their merits, and they both look a little flawed (I think the top one looks better though).
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 04:09 PM

I honestly don't know... They both have their merits, and they both look a little flawed (I think the top one looks better though).


The PC version does look slightly better (even though it is darker).

The reason is the depth of field effect.

That's about it.

The PS4 had also slightly different particle effects.

I think the PS4 AMD GPU does a better job at lighting than the Nvidia version did, but that may be new lighting as well.

Polygons and textures seem moot.

was very impressed by the motion blur on the ice elemental though.

Edited by Socalmuscle, 25 February 2013 - 04:11 PM.


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 04:26 PM

Fairly solid analysis in this video, watch the whole thing.




3 cores and 3 cache vs 8 cores and 4 cache.... WHAT????!?!?!?!

3 kids and 3 hamburgers vs 8 cores and 4 hamburgers... YAY!! Go Wii U!! :D :D :D :D :D

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 04:29 PM

Where did he say that? im not saying your lying its just i havnt heard anything....did you read on the net what watchdogs developer has said? he said the ps4 would be the BEST of all versions,he even claimed that the pc would be behind the ps4 for a while when it comes to games which has caused a BIG stir with the pc community.

I will try to find the artical although i read it on youtube while looking at watchdog vids.

PS4 could run max settings
at 10 frames per second

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 04:29 PM

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Guess which one is PC? ;)


Top is definately PC.... If the top is PS4 and the bottom is PC then I will buy a PS4... because the bottom is missing a ton of details, the castle on the bottom looks like its made out of Play-Doh

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 04:33 PM

Top is definately PC.... If the top is PS4 and the bottom is PC then I will buy a PS4... because the bottom is missing a ton of details, the castle on the bottom looks like its made out of Play-Doh

PLAYDOH CASTLE YAY!

he said the ps4 would be the BEST of all versions,he even claimed that the pc would be behind the ps4 for a while when it comes to games which has caused a BIG stir with the pc community.

Because Ubisoft hates PC as they are afraid of piracy they didnt make a good port. lol

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 04:33 PM

3 cores and 3 cache vs 8 cores and 4 cache.... WHAT????!?!?!?!

3 kids and 3 hamburgers vs 8 cores and 4 hamburgers... YAY!! Go Wii U!! :D :D :D :D :D


wiiU is running 2 kids with half hamburgers and 1 kid with 2 =/. wiiU is deisgned to give its cores seperate jobs, instead of being identical. but wiiU does seem to have won the CPU race so far. microsoft will need to buy a different CPU that will hurt production prices and delay development to up wiiU's somewhat surprise quality CPU.

3 cores and 3 cache vs 8 cores and 4 cache.... WHAT????!?!?!?!

3 kids and 3 hamburgers vs 8 cores and 4 hamburgers... YAY!! Go Wii U!! :D :D :D :D :D


wiiU is running 2 kids with half hamburgers and 1 kid with 2 =/. wiiU is deisgned to give its cores seperate jobs, instead of being identical. but wiiU does seem to have won the CPU race so far. microsoft will need to buy a different CPU that will hurt production prices and delay development to up wiiU's somewhat surprise quality CPU.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 04:33 PM

Are you blind?

Top one is PC, it has better textures, lightning, teselation is way better and shader effects!

This is live demo on SINGLE GPU PC!

Edited by dragomix, 25 February 2013 - 04:35 PM.


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 04:34 PM

PLAYDOH CASTLE YAY!


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