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[SoldMyWiiU]

It just seems wayyy to powerfull. I know nintendo has never been about graphics but the specs are pretty much blowing the Wiiu's out of the water


Even if the specs are true, I don't think the system will sell that well becasuse it's going to be minimum $700 for somthing like that.

[Socalmuscle]

Lol

They are nowhere near "way too powerful." Sony isn't lying. And the ps4 won't be $700. It uses jaguars, not i7. And not Nvidia keplers either.

And the public doesn't even know exactly what the specs are (nor does the public know the Wii Us exact specs.).

So they definitely dont "blow wii u out of the water."

The 360 did that to the wii, which was basically a GameCube with motion controls. This is nothing like that.

The ps4 is more powerful. It has more CPU cores, more ram, and a gpu that started as a better foundation that the wii u's gpu. But the wii u has much more customization going on.

The ps4 will be able to do some things better than the wii u in terms of processing.

But it won't be a big difference.

In fact, it appears both MS and Sony are following nintendos design philosophy for their hardware.

It's like the Nintendo 64 versus the Nintendo 64 + ram expansion Pak.
A little more than that. But not much. And not all games will see a difference.

This gen, all three systems will be competitive with one another.

Edited by Socalmuscle, 01 March 2013 - 12:02 AM.

[Joshua]

The specs aren't even "beasty" as most people think. As Socalmuscle above said, it uses an Intel Jaguar CPU, which is a low-end CPU used by budget PC's. It actually made me laugh a little when I found out about it to be honest because I couldn't believe it myself.

[ifrit05]

As Socalmuscle above said, it uses an Intel Jaguar CPU, which is a low-end CPU used by budget PC's.

The Jaguar is an AMD APU... http://en.wikipedia....ing_Unit#Jaguar

[Nollog]

It uses technology from 1980 basically, so it should be cheap and nothing about it is unbelievable.

[Zinix]

It uses technology from 1980 basically, so it should be cheap and nothing about it is unbelievable.

[Joshua]

The Jaguar is an AMD APU... http://en.wikipedia....ing_Unit#Jaguar

Ohh, whoops. Haha! Thanks for the correction.

[BanjoKazooie]

Ummm, I don't think they would've about them, and the only thing that really was impressive was the large amount of blazing fast RAM. They said their GPU would reach 2 TF but that's just a theoretical peak and I wouldn't expect it to come near that in real world performance.

[Eskimo_sam]

i think there pretty good specs certainly going to b a improvment over last gen

[Plutonas]

the 8 core cpu is a tablet cpu... and the 8 gigs of ram, is not only for the games.... the gpu is again in theoretical peak... not in real performance.

 

http://www.pcworld.c...or_tablets.html

 

the jaguar cpu for desktops is not even out yet for pc... NOWAY sony to add this cpu inside the console... ITS NOT even out yet!

Edited by Orion, 01 March 2013 - 03:38 AM.

[3Dude]

Its really not that powerful.

The i5 i got for my wife for like, $250 smokes the daylights out of it.

[routerbad]

The Jaguar is an AMD APU... http://en.wikipedia....ing_Unit#Jaguar

APU is a marketing term for CPU and GPU on one die.  They aren't using that, they have a CPU GPU on the same MCM, not on the same die.  Jaguar does actually refer to the CPU core, Kabini and Temash refer to the APUs that will include Jaguar cores.  So no, Jaguar is an AMD CPU core.

[SoldMyWiiUAndLeftTheForums]

If they wanted to Sony could change the specs at any moment, but if they are already in the manufacturing prossess it's very unlikely, but who knows. I'm thinking of getting one regardless.

[routerbad]

Its really not that powerful.

The i5 i got for my wife for like, $250 smokes the daylights out of it.

It's not a very powerful CPU at all, which is a given since it was meant to compete with Atom and prioritizes power gating over performance.

[ifrit05]

APU is a marketing term for CPU and GPU on one die.

 

Yes I know this, but for simplicity sake I just called it an APU.

[Dragon]

Could someone compare the tri core PowerPC in the Wii U and the 8 core AMD Jaguar in the PS4?

[MorbidGod]

The Jaguar is an AMD APU... http://en.wikipedia....ing_Unit#Jaguar

Thank you.

[Desert Punk]

Some good info here;

 

http://gamrconnect.v...d.php?id=136756

 

Basically ps4 is about 5-6x more powerful than wii u overall. Which is a similar figure the ps4 has over 360 and PS3 overall. PS4 gpu is very impressive especially paired with the ultra fast memory. Cpu wise its a good upgrade on current gen but as already stated many intel PC cpus's have gone easily beyond it. Unlike the wii u though there does seem geniune cpu assistance in the gpu.

 

Its a serious upgrade over wii u but the big issue is Sony are in deep debt and seem to be desperately trying to make sure the ps4 succeeds by having a very competitive specification however Nintendo can easily drop the price of their console and by then it will have a far larger library of software. 

[Alex Atkin UK]

Nobody can compare a thing about the PS4 CPU yet as no CPU using this specific architecture has been released yet.  However dismissing it as weak just because its a low-power CPU is silly.  The only console to ever be considered to have a strong CPU compared to the PC has been the PS3, and it wasn't all that helpful.

 

Lets not forget, the original Xbox used a Celeron which was the low-power version of the Pentium 3, but it punched well above its weight because developers were both more familiar with the architecture and also able to push it harder than on a PC due to knowing every Xbox is identical.  The PS4 has this same advantage, its similar to PC so familiar to developers but also a static configuration so can be pushed to its limit knowing every console will perform the same.

 

Also AMD have publicly said that its a much more powerful version of their chip than any of the PC versions will be, and it has some Sony specific customisations.  http://www.theinquir...aystation-4-apu  So it cannot be compared directly to a PC using a similar chip.

Edited by Alex Atkin UK, 01 March 2013 - 01:13 PM.

[Desert Punk]

The PS4 cpu is an enhancement of an existing chip which massively underperforms compared to some intel designs. No one is expecting that gulf to be bridged with ps4 just narrowed.