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[ArmedPrimate]

it is not first party game that are needed it is third party games that are desperately needed !

  

Who's gonna buy the Wii U for 3'rd party games avaliable on PS3 or Xbox ? Not me.

What attracted me to the Wii U was third party support. I have black ops on Xbox 360, however I play it on the Wii U because I feel it's more laid back plus the off screen play and stuff is cool.

[KarlMarx1818]

Don't Panic!

 

Nintendo have hardly run out of options yet! 

 

They can still cut the price and/or create new bundles. They might even consider some advertising!!!!!

 

Timing is everything so I'm expecting they'll take action both before the School Holidays and again before the Holiday season.

 

Even by the end of 2013 Nintendo still have room to manoeuvre. 

 

Games are coming, Pikmin, Need for Speed, Watchdogs, Assassins creed 4, Wonderful 101,  Lego titles and I suspect a few surprises before the end of the year

 

In the style of MH3 Ninty may have to grind this generation but the 3DS a slow start doesn't spell doom.

[Nollog]

3 months to e3.

3 months to Nintendo giving people some reasons to buy the console.

 

Really is something that it's not out-selling 6 year old crap, you'd think everyone who wanted one of those would already have them.

[KarlMarx1818]

3 months to e3.

3 months to Nintendo giving people some reasons to buy the console.

 

Really is something that it's not out-selling 6 year old crap, you'd think everyone who wanted one of those would already have them.

 

I suspect they is an expectation the PS4/Xbox720 will be stupidly expensive and you might as well wait a few years as the current Gen system are still putting out lots of games. I wonder how many of those sales are replacements for faulty consoles!

 

The Wii U is defiantly a HUGE upgrade from the Wii, The PS4 just looks like a less annoying PS3. We don't even have a date for the next Xbox.

 

Once all the dates/specs/prices are known for the Next gen I imagine the current gen sales will drop off as people decided to hold out.

[DéliopT]

We need another Nintendo Direct in April to coincide with the major Spring update. This way Nintendo can maybe give us some release dates and trailers for Pikmin 3, Mario 3D, Mario Kart, Super Smash Bros, Wonderful 101, Bayonetta 2 and maybe even an update for Wind Waker. This way you get rid of a lot of clutter so they can concentrate on more interesting and exciting games such as retro's game, Zelda, and maybe some other surprises at E3

 

Not that I think Wind Waker, Wonderful 101 or SSB are clutter.... 

 

I think a ND will come this week. Probably the 21st the latest (my guess!). Mainly because there are 3 worthy games coming this month but because it would be a good time to announce their title for April and 3rd party titles for April aswell. Of course if they could give dates for the rest of their titles, so much the better. I actually think they should as fast as possible.

The dates for the holiday titles will probably be given at E3.

 

Would be cool if at the last ND before E3, they showed the title for the game like they did for the 3DS mario! Hype would go through the roof!

[Tricky Sonic]

Comparing new system sales to systems that been on the market is stupid. The market has changed. The Wii U is going through the same thing the PS3 Did when it launched. After core gamers picked it up it took quite a while for other people to stop buying PS2's and switch over. The Wii U will sell. After more exposure and time on the market. More games will help too. Also I think when the 720 and PS4 come Out We will see more games on the Wii U. Right now it seems like devs are still focusing on current gen and not next.

[Nollog]

I suspect they is an expectation the PS4/Xbox720 will be stupidly expensive and you might as well wait a few years as the current Gen system are still putting out lots of games. I wonder how many of those sales are replacements for faulty consoles!

 

The Wii U is defiantly a HUGE upgrade from the Wii, The PS4 just looks like a less annoying PS3. We don't even have a date for the next Xbox.

 

Once all the dates/specs/prices are known for the Next gen I imagine the current gen sales will drop off as people decided to hold out.

Trudat.

I find it hilarious.

The PS4 isn't even an upgrade to the PS3, and it'll still be stupid expensive and fangirls will love it and defend it to the death.

"PC GAMING IS DEAD!!!!!!!!!" - PSV forum members, and usual Sony fangirls.

[KarlMarx1818]

I think some Nintendo fans need to be more realistic in their expectations. The Wii U is once again like the GC, Wii, DS and 3DS not trying to compete in a power war with it's contemporaries. This strategy on one hand make's it less likely to attract ports on the other hand makes it attractive to a different audience.

 

You may not get the latest COD but you will attract developers look to target its specific target audience.

 

What worries me currently is the price and lack of decent advertising. Both things that can be fixed. When we they know what the others are offering then we'll hopefully see a change in approach. 

[Bunkei]

Someone on Wii U daily made a few good points in my opinion:

 

"What the pundits are failing to recognize is that what we're looking at isn't the WiiU's real launch. Nintendo isn't pushing it and they're not heavily advertising it -- and this is intentional -- because It's clearly not finished (i.e. the UI isn't finished, console selling games aren't ready) and they don't want it to be overplayed by the time the real push will be on.

 

Nintendo had to launch a new console when they did because the Wii had prematurely reached the end of its life as a revenue generator -- no new 3rd party support and coasting on fumes -- and Nintendo was posting its first ever loss. Investors demanded action and Nintendo had to give it to them. They couldn't go another year with the Wii while they finished its successor. It simply had to be put out immediately, ready or not.

This may turn out to be a winning strategy however. The WiiU launched with a 1 year head start on the PS4 and n'X-Box.

 

What this gives Nintendo during the next holiday season are the advantages of having a perfectly polished console and a big lineup of excellent Nintendo IP and 3rd party games versus Sony and Microsoft's new consoles inevitably with bugs to work out and limited libraries like any brand new console. Nintendo will be "launching" into the next generation console war with an excellent library and a polished console that developers know how to program for out the gate.

 

Has anybody seen a single ad outside of the internet? I have not. Not one. Do people think Nintendo wouldn't have an advertising budget to flood the airwaves with TV ads? Of course they do, they're choosing not to use it yet. Nintendo is intentionally holding back while they get ready to go head to head with the new consoles from Sony and Microsoft.

 

I expect a crescendo to build starting at E3, culminating in a huge ad push around the back to school and holiday season.  By Christmas, there will be all these 3rd party games, many of which are releasing on the new Playstation 4 and Xbox but there will also be Nintendo's IP including WiiFit U, Pikmin 3, Zelda Wind Waker HD and probably the new 3D Mario game that will be playable at E3. Oh, throw in the exclusive LEGO City Undercover and the insane potential of the Pokemon Rumble Blast collectables. Which console would you get if you could have the AAA games in addition to all of Nintendo's franchises?

 

PS4 and n'X-Box will inevitably have teething problems -- all consoles do. While they sort those out, Nintendo will already have a perfectly polished console with a ton of titles at the time they're both launching for Christmas.

I'm very confident that this strategy will put Nintendo ahead or at least give the WiiU a fighting chance up against more powerful consoles."

 

-Pedro Marques (taken from http://wiiudaily.com...g-wii-u-prices/)

[BlueBlur]

Someone on Wii U daily made a few good points in my opinion:
 
"What the pundits are failing to recognize is that what we're looking at isn't the WiiU's real launch. Nintendo isn't pushing it and they're not heavily advertising it -- and this is intentional -- because It's clearly not finished (i.e. the UI isn't finished, console selling games aren't ready) and they don't want it to be overplayed by the time the real push will be on.
 
Nintendo had to launch a new console when they did because the Wii had prematurely reached the end of its life as a revenue generator -- no new 3rd party support and coasting on fumes -- and Nintendo was posting its first ever loss. Investors demanded action and Nintendo had to give it to them. They couldn't go another year with the Wii while they finished its successor. It simply had to be put out immediately, ready or not.
This may turn out to be a winning strategy however. The WiiU launched with a 1 year head start on the PS4 and n'X-Box.
 
What this gives Nintendo during the next holiday season are the advantages of having a perfectly polished console and a big lineup of excellent Nintendo IP and 3rd party games versus Sony and Microsoft's new consoles inevitably with bugs to work out and limited libraries like any brand new console. Nintendo will be "launching" into the next generation console war with an excellent library and a polished console that developers know how to program for out the gate.
 


Has anybody seen a single ad outside of the internet? I have not. Not one. Do people think Nintendo wouldn't have an advertising budget to flood the airwaves with TV ads? Of course they do, they're choosing not to use it yet. Nintendo is intentionally holding back while they get ready to go head to head with the new consoles from Sony and Microsoft.
 
I expect a crescendo to build starting at E3, culminating in a huge ad push around the back to school and holiday season.  By Christmas, there will be all these 3rd party games, many of which are releasing on the new Playstation 4 and Xbox but there will also be Nintendo's IP including WiiFit U, Pikmin 3, Zelda Wind Waker HD and probably the new 3D Mario game that will be playable at E3. Oh, throw in the exclusive LEGO City Undercover and the insane potential of the Pokemon Rumble Blast collectables. Which console would you get if you could have the AAA games in addition to all of Nintendo's franchises?
 
PS4 and n'X-Box will inevitably have teething problems -- all consoles do. While they sort those out, Nintendo will already have a perfectly polished console with a ton of titles at the time they're both launching for Christmas.
I'm very confident that this strategy will put Nintendo ahead or at least give the WiiU a fighting chance up against more powerful consoles."
 
-Pedro Marques (taken from http://wiiudaily.com...g-wii-u-prices/)

It obvious Nintendo knows how to advertise, just look at the recent 3DS ads.

[Robotic Sunshine Commander]

  

What attracted me to the Wii U was third party support. I have black ops on Xbox 360, however I play it on the Wii U because I feel it's more laid back plus the off screen play and stuff is cool.

and it plays better lol

[Keviin]

http://www.gamesindu...000-in-february

 

Things are not that bright for the big N these days. It certainly needs some first party love. And the sooner the better.

'omg nintendo is doomedz'

 

The  Wii U is doing bad yes, but 3DS is selling pretty good. We all know the Wii U needs games. The 3DS started selling like hotcakes after a pricedrop and the release of some good games (Zelda, Mario, hell, it will sell insanely when Pokemon comes out). The Wii U currently has NSNMBU as only good first party game, and that game isn't so 'new' anymore so it might not be a system seller to a lot of people. After some releases like SSB and a 3D Mario, sales will rise.

 

But yeah, the Wii U right now is selling really bad.

[Alianjaro]

I definitely think that selling so many Ps360s will kill the PS4...

[Penguin101]

I should have posted the video here about sales. The Wii U is outselling the PS3 and 360 after their launches. There's nothing to worry about

[Nollog]

Someone on Wii U daily made a few good points in my opinion:

 

"What the pundits are failing to recognize is that what we're looking at isn't the WiiU's real launch. Nintendo isn't pushing it and they're not heavily advertising it -- and this is intentional -- because It's clearly not finished (i.e. the UI isn't finished, console selling games aren't ready) and they don't want it to be overplayed by the time the real push will be on.

 

Nintendo had to launch a new console when they did because the Wii had prematurely reached the end of its life as a revenue generator -- no new 3rd party support and coasting on fumes -- and Nintendo was posting its first ever loss. Investors demanded action and Nintendo had to give it to them. They couldn't go another year with the Wii while they finished its successor. It simply had to be put out immediately, ready or not.

This may turn out to be a winning strategy however. The WiiU launched with a 1 year head start on the PS4 and n'X-Box.

 

What this gives Nintendo during the next holiday season are the advantages of having a perfectly polished console and a big lineup of excellent Nintendo IP and 3rd party games versus Sony and Microsoft's new consoles inevitably with bugs to work out and limited libraries like any brand new console. Nintendo will be "launching" into the next generation console war with an excellent library and a polished console that developers know how to program for out the gate.

 

Has anybody seen a single ad outside of the internet? I have not. Not one. Do people think Nintendo wouldn't have an advertising budget to flood the airwaves with TV ads? Of course they do, they're choosing not to use it yet. Nintendo is intentionally holding back while they get ready to go head to head with the new consoles from Sony and Microsoft.

 

I expect a crescendo to build starting at E3, culminating in a huge ad push around the back to school and holiday season.  By Christmas, there will be all these 3rd party games, many of which are releasing on the new Playstation 4 and Xbox but there will also be Nintendo's IP including WiiFit U, Pikmin 3, Zelda Wind Waker HD and probably the new 3D Mario game that will be playable at E3. Oh, throw in the exclusive LEGO City Undercover and the insane potential of the Pokemon Rumble Blast collectables. Which console would you get if you could have the AAA games in addition to all of Nintendo's franchises?

 

PS4 and n'X-Box will inevitably have teething problems -- all consoles do. While they sort those out, Nintendo will already have a perfectly polished console with a ton of titles at the time they're both launching for Christmas.

I'm very confident that this strategy will put Nintendo ahead or at least give the WiiU a fighting chance up against more powerful consoles."

 

-Pedro Marques (taken from http://wiiudaily.com...g-wii-u-prices/)

Sounds like he's making some pretty stupid assumptions here, and giving Nintendo too much credit.

[KarlMarx1818]

It's certainly true that the Wii U isn't complete yet, TVii hasn't been launched in Europe and no Virtual Console. The article rings true to me. 

[Alex Wolfers]

http://www.gamesindu...000-in-february

 

Things are not that bright for the big N these days. It certainly needs some first party love. And the sooner the better.

The first party love was announced during a Nintendo Direct during february. Patience guys.

BTW there needs to be a master thread for the Wii U's sells.

[Alianjaro]

'omg nintendo is doomedz'

The Wii U is doing bad yes, but 3DS is selling pretty good. We all know the Wii U needs games. The 3DS started selling like hotcakes after a pricedrop and the release of some good games (Zelda, Mario, hell, it will sell insanely when Pokemon comes out). The Wii U currently has NSNMBU as only good first party game, and that game isn't so 'new' anymore so it might not be a system seller to a lot of people. After some releases like SSB and a 3D Mario, sales will rise.

But yeah, the Wii U right now is selling really bad.

How is the Wii U doing bad? Clarify please.

[Cozmo]

Someone on Wii U daily made a few good points in my opinion:

 

"What the pundits are failing to recognize is that what we're looking at isn't the WiiU's real launch. Nintendo isn't pushing it and they're not heavily advertising it -- and this is intentional -- because It's clearly not finished (i.e. the UI isn't finished, console selling games aren't ready) and they don't want it to be overplayed by the time the real push will be on.

 

Nintendo had to launch a new console when they did because the Wii had prematurely reached the end of its life as a revenue generator -- no new 3rd party support and coasting on fumes -- and Nintendo was posting its first ever loss. Investors demanded action and Nintendo had to give it to them. They couldn't go another year with the Wii while they finished its successor. It simply had to be put out immediately, ready or not.

This may turn out to be a winning strategy however. The WiiU launched with a 1 year head start on the PS4 and n'X-Box.

 

What this gives Nintendo during the next holiday season are the advantages of having a perfectly polished console and a big lineup of excellent Nintendo IP and 3rd party games versus Sony and Microsoft's new consoles inevitably with bugs to work out and limited libraries like any brand new console. Nintendo will be "launching" into the next generation console war with an excellent library and a polished console that developers know how to program for out the gate.

 

Has anybody seen a single ad outside of the internet? I have not. Not one. Do people think Nintendo wouldn't have an advertising budget to flood the airwaves with TV ads? Of course they do, they're choosing not to use it yet. Nintendo is intentionally holding back while they get ready to go head to head with the new consoles from Sony and Microsoft.

 

I expect a crescendo to build starting at E3, culminating in a huge ad push around the back to school and holiday season.  By Christmas, there will be all these 3rd party games, many of which are releasing on the new Playstation 4 and Xbox but there will also be Nintendo's IP including WiiFit U, Pikmin 3, Zelda Wind Waker HD and probably the new 3D Mario game that will be playable at E3. Oh, throw in the exclusive LEGO City Undercover and the insane potential of the Pokemon Rumble Blast collectables. Which console would you get if you could have the AAA games in addition to all of Nintendo's franchises?

 

PS4 and n'X-Box will inevitably have teething problems -- all consoles do. While they sort those out, Nintendo will already have a perfectly polished console with a ton of titles at the time they're both launching for Christmas.

I'm very confident that this strategy will put Nintendo ahead or at least give the WiiU a fighting chance up against more powerful consoles."

 

-Pedro Marques (taken from http://wiiudaily.com...g-wii-u-prices/)

 

i never thought of it this way. it certainly could happen. i wasnt too fearful of the wiiu but this has really got me in high spirits, and i think this is a very smart idea and hope thats what nintendo is doing.

[Keviin]

How is the Wii U doing bad? Clarify please.

The Vita outsold it in Japan in a specific week, and look at the topic title. I don't know anyone with a Wii U in person. It started off pretty good, but it's not doing well anymore IMO.