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[BrosBeforeGardenTools]

Now if Iwata came and kidnapped you, beat you with an iron crowbar then bound and gagged you and stuffed you into the truck of his Toyota Prius (yeah he'd make you fit in that tiny trunk) then drove you to gamestop and held a gun to your head and said to buy a wii u or he'd splatter your brains all over the sleep deprived pimple faced store clerk.... Then you might have a reasonable claim at demanding an ambassador program

Pretty sure that's how I bought my Wii U.

[MorbidGod]

Just shows how poorly Nintendo thought about the Wii U. People were more willing to pay a bit more and buy the Deluxe model. I personally would have preferred to pay and extra $50 to get a more powerful console, at least 3rd party developers would be more willing to port their games to the Wii U. But excuses can be made for everything wrong that they do, because they can't do anything wrong and the "shining Nintendo knights" will be out in force flaming me for stating my own personal opinion.

Now I agree Nintendo could have done more study, but is this power argument going to continue? Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft all made their consoles less powerful in terms of gaming. Microsoft, officially admitted this.

No one is saying the Wii U is a powerhouse. Problem is, people are saying the others are, when they aren't.

[Goodtwin]

Its a good call to scrap the Wii U Basic.  It was a good idea in theory, allowing Nintendo gamers who would obviously want a lot more storage than Nintendo would ever opt for, but the majority of people still wanted the Deluxe, even if they would add more storage themselves.  I am expecting Nintendo to bring back the Basic models, repackage them with Nintendo Land and perhaps even the accessories that the Deluxe comes with, and then sell them for $249 and reduce the price of the Deluxe to $299.  They are definately planning something.  This may also be a way of appeasing retailers who are way overstocked with Basic models.  Its going to be interesting to see what exactly they are doing, but its good to see them doing something.  The sales have really slowed to a crawl, and they need to get the momentum going to prove to retailers and consumers that the Wiii U is going to be a product that will not be fizzling out anytime soon. 

[MorbidGod]

Actually if you would have bothered to read any of the things I have said before since I joined this forum. I been playing Nintendo games for years (probably longer than you 2 combined). I have only owned Nintendo consoles all my life. For the first time in my life I am getting a PS4, because I am tired of missing out on all the triple A games that get released on other consoles and not on Nintendo consoles. Since the Wii U launched I already missed: Bioshock Infinite (Nintendo even showed Ken Levine of Bioschock at E3 2011 praising the Wii U, yet 2 years later Bioshock Infinite gets released and the Wii U doesn't get it.), Metro Last Light, Crysis 3, and probably we wont get GTA5 either. All those games appeal to me. That list will keep growing and growing. (And excuses can be made and made but it doesn't change the facts).

Most people that bought the Deluxe Model wasn't exactly for the 32GB hard drive, 32GB is nothing nowadays (like 2-3 average sized games, one next gen game probably will be that size). So people that bought the Deluxe model for the 32GB are just postponing the inevitable of having to purchase and external hard drive later. Of all the reasons to purchase the Deluxe model the little extra space is the least important.

Nintendo should have just released the basic model at the price of the current Deluxe model, and Nintendo instead of wasting that money on an internal hard drive for the system they should have made the console more powerful. We wouldn't have all that "the Wii U is underpowered doom and gloom" talk to begin with. And 3rd party developers would be more willing to make games for the system. Now not only we also not getting FIFA games but also the PES games from Konami.

I'm sorry, your just plain wrong. Correct that Nintendo missed out on those games, and will continue to miss out on more games. But who buys Nintendo for those games.

Right there. I just mentioned the problem. Nintendo could release a super duper muper trooper console. They could have used a CPU that somehow does all the work for the developer. And Nintendo will still miss out on all these games.

EA didn't abandon Nintendo because of graphics. It's because they are hurting for money, laying people off, and they don't have money to spend on marketing when they don't sell 1+ million units per game. Crisis 3 not only was running on Nintendo, it was ready to release. Months from being in your hands. But EA couldn't afford to sell it on a console that they won't be making much money off. Won't even scratch the surface of how much money they spent.

Metro Last Light really is the last light. THQ, what happened to them again? Yeah, they couldn't afford to learn a new console when they could barely afford to make games in the first place. Again, what happened to them?

Your just wrong. Right about the result, wrong on the cause.

Edited by MorbidGod, 05 June 2013 - 07:16 AM.

[Alex Wolfers]

No one forced you to buy a Wii U

You made a conscious decision with your own free will to purchase their console

Why should they reward you for your choice?

Now if Iwata came and kidnapped you, beat you with an iron crowbar then bound and gagged you and stuffed you into the truck of his Toyota Prius (yeah he'd make you fit in that tiny trunk) then drove you to gamestop and held a gun to your head and said to buy a wii u or he'd splatter your brains all over the sleep deprived pimple faced store clerk.... Then you might have a reasonable claim at demanding an ambassador program
 

It wouldn't bother me too bad. You do have a point it could be worse. But why are you always looking to call me out?

Actually if you would have bothered to read any of the things I have said before since I joined this forum.  I been playing Nintendo games for years (probably longer than you 2 combined).  I have only owned Nintendo consoles all my life.  For the first time in my life I am getting a PS4, because I am tired of missing out on all the triple A games that get released on other consoles and not on Nintendo consoles.  Since the Wii U launched I already missed: Bioshock Infinite (Nintendo even showed Ken Levine of Bioschock at E3 2011 praising the Wii U, yet 2 years later Bioshock Infinite gets released and the Wii U doesn't get it.), Metro Last Light, Crysis 3, and probably we wont get GTA5 either. All those games appeal to me. That list will keep growing and growing. (And excuses can be made and made but it doesn't change the facts).

 

Most people that bought the Deluxe Model wasn't exactly for the 32GB hard drive, 32GB is nothing nowadays (like 2-3 average sized games, one next gen game probably will be that size).  So people that bought the Deluxe model for the 32GB are just postponing the inevitable of having to purchase and external hard drive later.  Of all the reasons to purchase the Deluxe model the little extra space is the least important.

 

Nintendo should have just released the basic model at the price of the current Deluxe model, and Nintendo instead of wasting that money on an internal hard drive for the system they should have made the console more powerful.  We wouldn't have all that "the Wii U is underpowered doom and gloom" talk to begin with.  And 3rd party developers would be more willing to make games for the system.  Now not only we also not getting FIFA games but also the PES games from Konami.

Other than the graphics not being PC quality and not having a few devs aboard what bothers you so much?

[NintendoReport]

http://www.ign.com/a...recall-imminent

 

Nintendo Denies Recall of Wii U Basic Bundle Nintendo confirms that customers will continue to find both models of Wii U in stores.

[grahamf]

All I can see them doing is heavily discounting both consoles, then slowly phasing out the basic with a white pro version.

[Foot]

GameStop at least, will no longer be carrying it

http://mynintendonew...sic-set-recall/

[BrosBeforeGardenTools]

GameStop at least, will no longer be carrying it
http://mynintendonew...sic-set-recall/

Maybe they aren't selling?

[Foot]

Maybe they aren't selling?

The Wii U basic sets? No those things are just sitting there for people who really want the wii u, but some d*** took the last Premium.

I think they should be keeped and offered as a lower cost alternative to the Premium set, and Premium should be raised to 64 Gb

Edited by Ultra, 05 June 2013 - 01:22 PM.

[BrosBeforeGardenTools]

The Premium is still the best deal. If Nintendo wanted a more balanced demand, they should have made the two sets more even.

[Foot]

Nvrmind

http://www.ign.com/a...recall-imminent

[Shogo]

I'm sorry, your just plain wrong. Correct that Nintendo missed out on those games, and will continue to miss out on more games. But who buys Nintendo for those games.

Right there. I just mentioned the problem. Nintendo could release a super duper muper trooper console. They could have used a CPU that somehow does all the work for the developer. And Nintendo will still miss out on all these games.

EA didn't abandon Nintendo because of graphics. It's because they are hurting for money, laying people off, and they don't have money to spend on marketing when they don't sell 1+ million units per game. Crisis 3 not only was running on Nintendo, it was ready to release. Months from being in your hands. But EA couldn't afford to sell it on a console that they won't be making much money off. Won't even scratch the surface of how much money they spent.

Metro Last Light really is the last light. THQ, what happened to them again? Yeah, they couldn't afford to learn a new console when they could barely afford to make games in the first place. Again, what happened to them?

Your just wrong. Right about the result, wrong on the cause.

 

 

It wouldn't bother me too bad. You do have a point it could be worse. But why are you always looking to call me out?

Other than the graphics not being PC quality and not having a few devs aboard what bothers you so much?

  The fact that all they show are baby games that don't appeal to me.  Sorry but I just saw their E3 Nintendo Direct and it was total garbage to me.   And it is Nintendo that is out of touch.  Back in the day they had Rare (makers of Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, I loved those games), they had Left Field Productions (Excitebike64, I liked that game), Silicon Knights (Eternal Darkness, also liked that game), but they sold all those awesome 2nd party developers that would make more mature games that appeal to me.  (A game doesn't have to have blood and gore to appeal to me, I liked Excitebike64, liked Wave Race on both the N64 and the Gamecube versions,1080 on the N64).  They had this special relationship with Factor 5 (the Star Wars Rogue Squadron game on the Gamecube was impressive).  But they sold all their 2nd party developers.  Now we are left with this.  So many games I saw yesterday on the sony E3 that appeal to me.  Also Ubisofts racing game "The Crew", I didn't see a Wii U logo at the end of that trailer.  That is another game I would have liked to have.  Yea sorry, but I am moving on to the PS4, was a loyal Nintendo gamer all my life (only owned Nintendo consoles).  But they are so out of touch.

Edited by Shogo, 11 June 2013 - 07:06 AM.

[MorbidGod]

The fact that all they show are baby games that don't appeal to me. Sorry but I just saw their E3 Nintendo Direct and it was total garbage to me. And it is Nintendo that is out of touch. Back in the day they had Rare (makers of Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, I loved those games), they had Left Field Productions (Excitebike64, I liked that game), Silicon Knights (Eternal Darkness, also liked that game), but they sold all those awesome 2nd party developers that would make more mature games that appeal to me. (A game doesn't have to have blood and gore to appeal to me, I liked Excitebike64, liked Wave Race on both the N64 and the Gamecube versions,1080 on the N64). They had this special relationship with Factor 5 (the Star Wars Rogue Squadron game on the Gamecube was impressive). But they sold all their 2nd party developers. Now we are left with this. So many games I saw yesterday on the sony E3 that appeal to me. Also Ubisofts racing game "The Crew", I didn't see a Wii U logo at the end of that trailer. That is another game I would have liked to have. Yea sorry, but I am moving on to the PS4, was a loyal Nintendo gamer all my life (only owned Nintendo consoles). But they are so out of touch.

I understand that. Their E3 Direct was sad, because most of the games I wanted are coming out next year. DK was a pleasant surprise, but honestly, I wanted another surprise. And I wanted to see Retro's game. Assuming DK wasn't Retro's game.

[Shogo]

I understand that. Their E3 Direct was sad, because most of the games I wanted are coming out next year. DK was a pleasant surprise, but honestly, I wanted another surprise. And I wanted to see Retro's game. Assuming DK wasn't Retro's game.

 Yes, I was so looking forward to Retro's game and they didn't show it.  

[MorbidGod]

Yes, I was so looking forward to Retro's game and they didn't show it.

Actually, they did. And that is what depresses me.

http://www.ign.com/a...tropical-freeze

Donkey Kong was the Retro game we have been waiting for.

[Shogo]

Actually, they did. And that is what depresses me.

http://www.ign.com/a...tropical-freeze

Donkey Kong was the Retro game we have been waiting for.

  Yea I just saw that.