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[Mushlikeahusky1]

Looking to buy a laptop for music, school, and gaming I dont need the best thing in the world but I want it to run stuff like Diablo 3, DOTA, Sims city, and all the newer PC games it doesnt have to be highest graphics. This is what im considering but im open to cheaper options.

 

http://www.bestbuy.c...FGwEE&ref=&loc=

 

[Zinix]

You could probably find it for cheaper if you look on 

 

http://www.newegg.com

 

They also have usually specials and deals on Newegg for computers/ laptops.

[DexterousGecko]

check out the number 1, not bad

 

http://www.gameranx....aptops-of-2013/

[Socalmuscle]

Get a Mac. Don't look back.

[TheUltimateWaddleDee]

Get a Mac. Don't look back.

He said he wanted it for gaming.

[Socalmuscle]

He said he wanted it for gaming.

That wasn't lost on me.

The games he mentioned are made for Mac.

Macs have awesome gaming hardware.

And he also said music and school. Seems you forgot those. Macs are best for music and a must in many education environments.

He can also run windows on a Mac, either virtually or on a separate partition. It's the best of both worlds.

Why anyone settles for a pc anymore is beyond me.

Macs do it all.

And you won't need to upgrade as often.

Edited by Socalmuscle, 30 June 2013 - 05:41 PM.

[bornsupercharged]

That wasn't lost on me.

The games he mentioned are made for Mac. But not all games are. 

Macs have awesome gaming hardware. No they don't, they're typically overpriced for what you get and PCs offer more flexibility to upgrade components later.

And he also said music and school. Seems you forgot those. Macs are best for music and a must in many education environments. Total garbage, there's zero difference in music from a PC to Mac - obviously you're a fanboy. I'm in college and there's no educational requirements for having a Mac at all, nor do my kids or other people I know in various levels of schooling require any type of Mac product. 100% false statement.  

He can also run windows on a Mac, either virtually or on a separate partition. It's the best of both worlds. Except running windows on it defeats the purpose of getting a Mac, as you claim Macs do everything just as good or better why would be want to buy a license for Windows and dual boot? Costly Mac + Windows License = way more than a more powerful PC would have costed him.

Why anyone settles for a pc anymore is beyond me. Why anyone pays for overpriced Apple products is beyond me.

Macs do it all. Except the games that they can't play and the DRM music it can't play.

And you won't need to upgrade as often. Or you could get a PC and when you DO need to add more ram or swap out the battery or hard drive, you can. Derp.

[Gamejunkie]

That wasn't lost on me.

The games he mentioned are made for Mac.

Macs have awesome gaming hardware.

And he also said music and school. Seems you forgot those. Macs are best for music and a must in many education environments.

He can also run windows on a Mac, either virtually or on a separate partition. It's the best of both worlds.

Why anyone settles for a pc anymore is beyond me.

Macs do it all.

And you won't need to upgrade as often.

Agreed. My sentiments exactly. I switched to using Macs eight years ago and have never looked back.

[DexterousGecko]

 

Macs do it all.

 

lol

[BnB]

The op seems to want something mid ranged and affordable...

definitely doesn't = mac

[DexterousGecko]

The op seems to want something mid ranged and affordable...

definitely doesn't = mac

agreed. Macs are three times the price for the same specs

[Socalmuscle]

Lol. Hardly for the same specs. That's laughable.

But if you just want something cheap and "good enough" that's your call.

Macs literally do everything a pc does and more. A Mac is a Mac + a top end windows machine.

A pc is... A pc. Most are junky. But you get what you pay for.

[DexterousGecko]

Lol. Hardly for the same specs. That's laughable.

But if you just want something cheap and "good enough" that's your call.

Macs literally do everything a pc does and more. A Mac is a Mac + a top end windows machine.

A pc is... A pc. Most are junky. But you get what you pay for.

Well, it's good that you're being reasonable about it and not just another "Apple knows best" type of consumer. Kudos to you sir.

 

 

edit: I don't like macs for two reasons. 1. I refuse to support a company that is fascist in their control of their product and give me 100 percent control and 2. the lack of support for gaming compared to pc.

Edited by DexterousGecko, 01 July 2013 - 07:47 PM.

[Socalmuscle]

Well, it's good that you're being reasonable about it and not just another "Apple knows best" type of consumer. Kudos to you sir.


edit: I don't like macs for two reasons. 1. I refuse to support a company that is fascist in their control of their product and give me 100 percent control and 2. the lack of support for gaming compared to pc.

I'll give you the second point. Even though you can run windows on the Mac. Though the hardware is there, gaming hasn't been Apples forte. Steve jobs hated gamin. But things are changing. ESP. After apple has seen huge revenues coming from mobile games. A Direct X type API would be great. But who knows about that.

I was a windows guy personally and professionally and worked in IT right out of college before deciding a more creative computing career was what I was made for. I used to make fun of macs, though I'd never used one. Then a close friend went Mac. They showed me how simple it was to do things compared to windows. And the workstations I had people rebooting during their lunch breaks in order to minimize crashes during critical work sessions-not the macs. So I bought one to see what the fuss was about. In about one month, I had felt deprived all those years. Almost any software on windows you can find native for Mac. Often times the superior version. Or equivalent. Next thing you know, everyone wants to work on a Mac. The video editors, the accountants, the art teams, the web guys, the modelers, everyone. So we created a performance incentive program. They earned they macs. And I have to say they didn't need one eighth the support the pcs did. Nor the reboots, etc. we ran antivirus on them, but they never needed them. It was mostly so that email attachments containing viruses sent to us by people using windows could be cleaned before we forwarded them (can't be blamed for viruses in attachments we didn't create now can we?). Some folks still chose to work on PC. It's cool. It kept me working a little more. But it's good to stay sharp. Lol. Just a personal story.

But the first one I LOL'd a bit. It's basically an opinion and a philosophy. But we are all entitled to that and I do the same thing. I refuse to buy samsung for shamelessly copying and refuse to invest in Google for stealing ideas out od boardrooms and for their still unaccounted for theft of Sun Microsystems code (verbatim, for i dont know how many lines of code). I also refuse to support Xbox one based on principle as well. Even though they changed their tune, I have a huge problem with the fact that they tried their hardest to foist one of the most draconian schemes on consumers since adobe made the creative suite a mandatory subscription... Lol. The thing that stinks is that I HAVE to use adobe for some of my work. And no one makes those tools as good as they do.

I think it takes a very high level of perfectionism to make products as great as apple does and part of the "control" they exercise is what keep their systems more secure than their competitors (though not perfect. It is man-made product after all) and to make sure the Mac "just works." You'd be surprised how many times someone tinkers with the registry on windows or e terminal on Mac and then blames the ensuing problems on the computer maker.

I am a bit confused by the term "control" though since macs give you access to the Unix underpinnings via the Terminal and you can do just about anything with that.

Then there is the choice of OS as well. You can run Windows. natively.

Unless you mean IOS. That's more of a closed system. Though it seems more open than Windows Mobile. And Android being rooted doesn't seem to offer many abilities beyond jail breaking an iPhone. Maybe changing home screen icon layouts? Of course Android app launch layouts seem to need all the help they can get.

Unless there is something I'm not thinking of.

There's a good reason everyone tries to copy them. I'm giving credit where it's due. I've supported ms software for years. Once I went Mac, I was like "why the heck doesn't MS do this." Apparently it's a hard act to follow. Steve ballmer said years ago they want to do what apple does.

But there are times when the price point doesn't work or you just don't personally care for a certain company. That's the great thing about having more than one to choose from.

Didn't realize I'd stir up some anti-apple sentiment by suggesting a Mac. It was just a suggestion that I thought would be helpful.

Edited by Socalmuscle, 01 July 2013 - 10:21 PM.

[SPG]

i lovehow this turned into a pointless mac vs pc thread, imo go with a pc if it was a desktop, and a windows laptop if you want to game, but if you dont want to game,macs work just as fine, I use a mac at school, I personally dont like it, but thats just my 2 cents

[DexterousGecko]

I'll give you the second point. Even though you can run windows on the Mac. Though the hardware is there, gaming hasn't been Apples forte. Steve jobs hated gamin. But things are changing. ESP. After apple has seen huge revenues coming from mobile games. A Direct X type API would be great. But who knows about that.

I was a windows guy personally and professionally and worked in IT right out of college before deciding a more creative computing career was what I was made for. I used to make fun of macs, though I'd never used one. Then a close friend went Mac. They showed me how simple it was to do things compared to windows. And the workstations I had people rebooting during their lunch breaks in order to minimize crashes during critical work sessions-not the macs. So I bought one to see what the fuss was about. In about one month, I had felt deprived all those years. Almost any software on windows you can find native for Mac. Often times the superior version. Or equivalent. Next thing you know, everyone wants to work on a Mac. The video editors, the accountants, the art teams, the web guys, the modelers, everyone. So we created a performance incentive program. They earned they macs. And I have to say they didn't need one eighth the support the pcs did. Nor the reboots, etc. we ran antivirus on them, but they never needed them. It was mostly so that email attachments containing viruses sent to us by people using windows could be cleaned before we forwarded them (can't be blamed for viruses in attachments we didn't create now can we?). Some folks still chose to work on PC. It's cool. It kept me working a little more. But it's good to stay sharp. Lol. Just a personal story.

But the first one I LOL'd a bit. It's basically an opinion and a philosophy. But we are all entitled to that and I do the same thing. I refuse to buy samsung for shamelessly copying and refuse to invest in Google for stealing ideas out od boardrooms and for their still unaccounted for theft of Sun Microsystems code (verbatim, for i dont know how many lines of code). I also refuse to support Xbox one based on principle as well. Even though they changed their tune, I have a huge problem with the fact that they tried their hardest to foist one of the most draconian schemes on consumers since adobe made the creative suite a mandatory subscription... Lol. The thing that stinks is that I HAVE to use adobe for some of my work. And no one makes those tools as good as they do.

I think it takes a very high level of perfectionism to make products as great as apple does and part of the "control" they exercise is what keep their systems more secure than their competitors (though not perfect. It is man-made product after all) and to make sure the Mac "just works." You'd be surprised how many times someone tinkers with the registry on windows or e terminal on Mac and then blames the ensuing problems on the computer maker.

I am a bit confused by the term "control" though since macs give you access to the Unix underpinnings via the Terminal and you can do just about anything with that.

Then there is the choice of OS as well. You can run Windows. natively.

Unless you mean IOS. That's more of a closed system. Though it seems more open than Windows Mobile. And Android being rooted doesn't seem to offer many abilities beyond jail breaking an iPhone. Maybe changing home screen icon layouts? Of course Android app launch layouts seem to need all the help they can get.

Unless there is something I'm not thinking of.

There's a good reason everyone tries to copy them. I'm giving credit where it's due. I've supported ms software for years. Once I went Mac, I was like "why the heck doesn't MS do this." Apparently it's a hard act to follow. Steve ballmer said years ago they want to do what apple does.

But there are times when the price point doesn't work or you just don't personally care for a certain company. That's the great thing about having more than one to choose from.

Didn't realize I'd stir up some anti-apple sentiment by suggesting a Mac. It was just a suggestion that I thought would be helpful.

no, you're right, i was referring to ios. ^^ And yah, lol, I was being overly dramatic. I do have a few companies I won't buy anything from just because I disagree with their business practices (EA, Apple, etc) but you are right, I'm glad that's why we have more than one company.

[grahamf]

One thing I should ask, is if you're committed to a laptop? Otherwise you're going to have to get a pretty high end model like a Razor, because you can't upgrade the video card later on.