It might not be as far fetched as you guys might thing / and this is the continuation of the speculation towards proving the power behind it, hopefully anyway it goes the "over 1000 GFLOPS" remains true over the course of time ... it would be rightdown stupid if not totally wasteless of the potential behind such a console to be less powerful but offer such array of services that this rumor promises.
Now lets get into detail, these kinds of rumors written in such way historically are valid, but to understand it ... thats the key, its shocking and thats why it seems unbelieveable.
But remember, this rumor is very significant to what you people have responded yet, I am so at a loss that i cannot post on neogaf to share these, anyone on neogaf plese copy all this qute there, but it shouldnt be what the other guys like bgassasin know, im just going to explain the rumor now, for others who might not see the significance in this, however this is still speculation so dont blame me but its high probablity that we bet on.
Lets see why this rumor actually could fit with the whole final thing of a rumored 1TF capable console, first its the rumors source, the manufacturing ... that information is likely to be someone that works in a factory like foxconn or where the GPU and CPU chips may have been made, but since the scope of the rumor is weider that might indicate the source is probably at the factory where the consoles get their final assembly since he knows surprisingly a lot of thing besides the hardware, no idea but if for some reason a chance is that this source is from a GPU or CPU factory that has his own knowledge of details he purposelly did not share might even confirm the idea of GPU and CPU being manufactured closely the so called fishkill partnership ... (your going to follow my posts im not going to explain what we know all over again about fishkill) So we can eliminate this idea since the probability is very low to the rumors scope that it shows us otherwise about the origin of the source ... this kind of rumor is a textbook one and mostly gets out from the packagin plants, the person behind it know the FACTS but he is not completely necessary for this person to be a super TECH DETECTIVE geek so the description that he gives is subjectively DISTORTED, parts of the rumor might appear contradictory to what we all hope for, thats why i so pointed it out last big post, if you do not have the experience to analyze the rumors you will percieve them wrong.
This specific part i can point out is when he says that the "
CPU and GPU nintendo choosed are economical" in this case the source might have further knowledge of the specifics but the describes it as such, this does not mean that the hardware is bad, the source describes it as such compared to something he knows but not that we know what he's comparing it to specifically, one thing is for sure, he definitely doesn't compare that to current generation and if he does that would speak he has no idea about tech but the source has idea about tech he just lets a bit out without revealing too much as that would also confirm exact location of the leak and much easier for nintendo ninjas to pinpoint.
The next example is "
Cutting production costs to maximize profits is Nintendo’s main concern with the Wii U" - notice the "production" word ... it is very important what production signifies, it does not indicate that all the performance will be cut back ... this proves the historical nintendo's policy, the smalles process possible so that the production of the chips is as efficient as possible that might also back up the far fetched 28nm node while i won't go that far my self so im still settling on 32nm from the fishkill theory looks more plausible than one single rumor about 28nm which is a quite old now though i frogot exactly the tech he mentioned was something that was not compatible with other rumors.
So don't think that this means they would cut all hardware and make the thing dumbed down and crappy ... nope, one of the most significant production costs reductor is the process node because the smaller you're chips are the more you can fit on a signle waffer, nintendo's quality design=better yields(percent of how many chips actually work fine, per waffer), faster supply, less waste, less time to meet demand.
The 300$ mark comes as to no surprise - heavily predicted by myself and others. For those who still don't understand, the capabilities of the system would push the console to 350, but nintendo choosed to not repeat 3DS scenario so it goes back down to 300$ and if that means not making profit, so be it, nintendo hinted this them sefls. They might not be making profit in the early launch period of some months but it definitely will be worth it for 1 year leap and boost as well as later cheaper tech such as NFC tech dropping by 400% in the near future as well as the production overall, chips and LCDs and all that comes down a bit for a nicely timed price drop around PS4720 launch. They obviously won't loose that much money, the system will cost probably the same number in euros , so 300€ is 406$. The more dollar is useless the more europeans passively suffer for it, stupid planet we live in, blame the banker elite.
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Nintendo got a bargain price on the custom GPU and CPU that the Wii U uses." - This could be significant, because it may prove the fishkill partnership of CPU and GPU being manufactured at the same facility with partnership of GlobalFoundries(AMD), IBM and ATI(AMD), as well as the low production costs of the chips as they developed them to be, the word custom just adds on what we know. Might sound far fetched, but the bargain might come because IBM might actually use GloFo fab to make those CPU chips as AMD would use to make GPUs and normally there wasn't any connection with the IBM and AMD , but it looks like that im merely speculating, looks like GloFo is pleased that AMDs connection with the GPU also brought in another customer IBM ... so somethings fishy going on there, i won't say its exactly like this i need to think about it more, but looks like some big win was accomplished for the newly opened plant at fishkill - Also AMD made GloFO with an indie saudi tech investment company, the investment company then bought out AMDs share and GloFo became fully independent, still AMDs ties are there, however some executives were leaving GloFo ... which might not mean anything bad, maybe they weren't good and were replaced, but if this is good for nintendo then great!
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They are cutting costs in the Wii U’s hardware to build back confidence in investors" - that's a silly statement, they don't work for the "apple hippie investor" that jumps on and off thinking the company will break and make a quick buck , they don't understand nintendo. The investors will have to wait and have patience, nothing is done to please their impatience, nintendo will never sacrifice them selfs for some stupid analyst. And that's why nintendo is my favourite company.
Thats what the source thinks ... but his opinion here is weak, and first of all, cutting back on the hardware doesn't mean anything to be concerned with, it could be a plastic we all know it'll be a balance, we all know it'll not be the super duper 599$ console, and nobody of the tech guys expects wiiu to be more powerful in the next gen, we should expect to know it'll be the least powerful but the still open question is, by how much. Who the heck cares about 20% ... first-parties will finally get what they deserve no matter what.
What i understand from this, that nintendo won't PIMP the console where theres no need for, there won't be any cuts in the CORE hardware that we all heard it got bumped up and Epic's push for more RAM rumored this year.
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Nintendo wants investors to view Wii U as a less risky proposition" - dismiss this, this is a subjective assumption, it might be wrong, it might be correct, or somewhere in the middle - it's the source "pimp" words on what he thinks, not a real leak of what would nintendo say. Moving on ...
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There is a bigger focus on downloadable content, applications, video content, digital distribution, and services to create a stream of revenue." - This is again the pimp words, a summary, to make the whole rumor more something, or a mere re-confirmation of what we allready know so no surprise here but good to hear. The whole thing sounds more likely a good info but also pimped with buzz words for the investors them selfs, this rumor for the investors actually - the stupid investors who can dig anything up and belive on the get go so ... the cutting down means nothing for us, it's a statement that makes investors feel good as they might think theyll get more profit from it - dismiss this, it does NOT mean CPU and GPU would be crap - and investors won't get that much since we all suspect it'll not be that profitable on launch.
The 180$ cost is materials only - marketing, research, packaging , mass production, retail, shipping, box contents, etc etc etc. So it's not that far fetched - as i said, the source signified only the stuff the investors would go "ecstatic" ... and for a stupid apple investor seeing 180 cost and 300 sell point - "oh that would mean great profit ya ya ya" .... that's just to get the stock price up for E3 HYPE! whoever done this rumor ... god knows - no such profit at all people, don't buy the shock buzz, look what the source is saying "between the lines" as i explained, this is one of those rumors ... textbook example that can confuse almost everyone.
Aswell the info might be handed around and other people might added those parts of views - do not see this rumor as something that one person planned it in his booknote and then released it - taking every sentence as separate is the key aswell.
Edited by Stewox, 09 April 2012 - 04:18 AM.
