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#1 Keviin

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 05:45 AM

Please, no "COD sucks" posts. I play MW2, and sometimes I wonder to myself when I get killed... How is that even possible?! I unloaded my horsing entire magazine on the enemy, but he still manages to kill me first? I get really frustrated by how fake this game can get. Or that moment when I stab an enemy (you see my knife in his body and you even hear the sound) but then I still die? Stuff like that just makes me ragequit a lot of times. I'm level 51 and not really noob or anything but I still wonder, how can I avoid such rages? Should I use other guns? But then again, people who use exact the same gun as me still kill me faster. It's bullcrap.

I've been using FAL + Stopping Power Pro lately, which works quite nice but still not perfect.

Also, I just want to express my rage about quickscopers which nearly ruin the game for me.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 06:53 AM

Lag is your main problem then you have to deal with those horrible hit boxes, which is pretty much your character wearing a refrigerator box.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 07:16 AM

It is because the game is poorly ballenced, and like Tuba said, hit boxes are an issue. If you are going to play COD multiplayer, you can't get mad at it, because it is designed like that on purpose.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 07:35 AM

It is because the game is poorly ballenced, and like Tuba said, hit boxes are an issue. If you are going to play COD multiplayer, you can't get mad at it, because it is designed like that on purpose.

Black Ops wasn't unbalanced.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 07:49 AM

Hit boxes = the area where you can be shot with effect?

So if I want to play a decent COD match, I should get super good internet connection?
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 07:56 AM

Black Ops wasn't unbalanced.

... Every COD multiplayer game is unbalanced... They do it on purpose.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 08:19 AM

Get faster internet lol.
Really idk i.havent played cod online only had them on xbox and wasnt going to pay to play. I stop playing them at black ops (had it on the wii and it was blah).
But i normally play bf, moh and ghost on the ps3. Dont believe i had this problem with those. So maybe its just a cod problem or your internet is slower then theres.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 08:26 AM

... Every COD multiplayer game is unbalanced... They do it on purpose.

I didn't say "every", I said Black Ops wasn't unbalanced. There is no one single gun that is the best. Not every gun is easy to use, but that doesn't mean it's unbalanced. Black Ops is balanced the best out of the Call of Duty games.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 08:31 AM

I didn't say "every", I said Black Ops wasn't unbalanced. There is no one single gun that is better. Not every gun is easy to use, but that doesn't mean it's unbalanced. Black Ops is balanced the best out of the Call of Duty games.

I said every one, just to mKake the point that BO is lumped in with all of the other games.
As for BO being more balenced, I can't comment, because that is the only oneI've ever play. That doesn't mean they did a good job though. If you line up 3 TV's all with holes in the screen, yeah you can the one with the smallest hole, but it still has one. They intentionally make them unbalenced, due to the style of play it has.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 08:40 AM

I said every one, just to mKake the point that BO is lumped in with all of the other games.
As for BO being more balenced, I can't comment, because that is the only oneI've ever play. That doesn't mean they did a good job though. If you line up 3 TV's all with holes in the screen, yeah you can the one with the smallest hole, but it still has one. They intentionally make them unbalenced, due to the style of play it has.

I don't really know what your considering unbalanced but, considering that is the only COD you've ever played it may be easy for you to say that considering pretty much all of the other Call of Duty games had a severely OP weapon. (m16,mp40,ump45) In Black Ops every gun has their own strengths and weaknesses and its not easy to label which gun is the best in Black Ops.

Even though, you are correct about the other games being unbalanced it seems a bit odd considering you've admitted the only COD you've ever played is Black Ops.

To be honest, I don't understand your theory that they make the games unbalanced on purpose when Treyarch admitted that they tried their best to make BO as balanced as possible.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 09:32 AM

your best bet is to use a better assault rifle or sub machine gun as guns like the fal are generally used for more advanced players, since single shots take more skill to use. What system do you play on if you are getting blops 2 for wiiu or xbox 360 i may be able to help you out a bit considering i was the leader of my own clan for about 5 years. so im pretty good in first person shooters.

Also on this whole unbalanced subject treyarch never intentionally unbalances there games maybe iw has since they made cod 4. but treyarch has always put a lot of effort to make there cod games as balanced as possible and it shows in there games.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:41 PM

I don't really know what your considering unbalanced but, considering that is the only COD you've ever played it may be easy for you to say that considering pretty much all of the other Call of Duty games had a severely OP weapon. (m16,mp40,ump45) In Black Ops every gun has their own strengths and weaknesses and its not easy to label which gun is the best in Black Ops.

Even though, you are correct about the other games being unbalanced it seems a bit odd considering you've admitted the only COD you've ever played is Black Ops.

To be honest, I don't understand your theory that they make the games unbalanced on purpose when Treyarch admitted that they tried their best to make BO as balanced as possible.

The leveling system cause the game to become unbalanced. It has nothing to do with the maps, guns, or perks. Those could be perfectly balanced, and the leveling and unlock system would still make it a wholly unbalanced game.
They do this on purpose because it makes people want to keep playing. In a game more intended for casual gamers, it is important to have them work towards a clear goal or idea. Call of Duty does this through the unlocks. If you didn't unlock stuff (once again, leveling systems instantly unbalance a game) as you went along, it would become stale really quickly, and casuals would get bored. Hardcore gamers would still play it (to get better at the game, and learn it, much like a fighting game, which wouldn't appeal to a casual gamer much), but it wouldn't be the cash cow franchise that it is now.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 02:53 PM

your best bet is to use a better assault rifle or sub machine gun as guns like the fal are generally used for more advanced players, since single shots take more skill to use. What system do you play on if you are getting blops 2 for wiiu or xbox 360 i may be able to help you out a bit considering i was the leader of my own clan for about 5 years. so im pretty good in first person shooters.

Also on this whole unbalanced subject treyarch never intentionally unbalances there games maybe iw has since they made cod 4. but treyarch has always put a lot of effort to make there cod games as balanced as possible and it shows in there games.

Is FAMAS any good? I like TAR-21 too and ACR. I used to have an M4A01 too. UMP kills fast, but accuracy and range are carp.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 02:56 PM

Is FAMAS any good? I like TAR-21 too and ACR. I used to have an M4A01 too. UMP kills fast, but accuracy and range are carp.


famas is really good the acr is probably the most accurate full auto assault rifle and the ump is really good you just have to get used to the recoil. m4 is accurate as well but the damage is pretty week and the tar 21 has good damage but a recoil trade off.

The leveling system cause the game to become unbalanced. It has nothing to do with the maps, guns, or perks. Those could be perfectly balanced, and the leveling and unlock system would still make it a wholly unbalanced game.
They do this on purpose because it makes people want to keep playing. In a game more intended for casual gamers, it is important to have them work towards a clear goal or idea. Call of Duty does this through the unlocks. If you didn't unlock stuff (once again, leveling systems instantly unbalance a game) as you went along, it would become stale really quickly, and casuals would get bored. Hardcore gamers would still play it (to get better at the game, and learn it, much like a fighting game, which wouldn't appeal to a casual gamer much), but it wouldn't be the cash cow franchise that it is now.


how does the leveling system make the game unbalanced? ive played in games at level 1 and still done better than everyone on my team.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 02:57 PM

Through experiance I've noticed there is indeed problems with the hitboxes in the game.

.....or it could just be me lagging and the game doesn't recognise my shots when I point the crosshair DIRECTLY at the enemy.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 03:12 PM

There is no one single gun that is the best.

The FAMAS and the Death Machine are rapists.

I don't know what Black Ops you've been playing.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 03:18 PM

The FAMAS and the Death Machine are rapists.

I don't know what Black Ops you've been playing.

The Death Machine is a reward from a killstreak, as for the famas. Ask yourself, is it easy to use or is OP? I have come to many times that I have used a different gun and killed someone using a FAMAS it isn't as OP as say the MP40.

The leveling system cause the game to become unbalanced. It has nothing to do with the maps, guns, or perks. Those could be perfectly balanced, and the leveling and unlock system would still make it a wholly unbalanced game.
They do this on purpose because it makes people want to keep playing. In a game more intended for casual gamers, it is important to have them work towards a clear goal or idea. Call of Duty does this through the unlocks. If you didn't unlock stuff (once again, leveling systems instantly unbalance a game) as you went along, it would become stale really quickly, and casuals would get bored. Hardcore gamers would still play it (to get better at the game, and learn it, much like a fighting game, which wouldn't appeal to a casual gamer much), but it wouldn't be the cash cow franchise that it is now.

How does having a leveling system make the game unbalanced though?

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 03:31 PM

how does the leveling system make the game unbalanced? ive played in games at level 1 and still done better than everyone on my team.

You are simply better at the game. You can be good at an unbalanced game.

How does having a leveling system make the game unbalanced though?

Because if two people, who are equal in terms of skill, one being level 1, and the other being max level, the one who is max level has a clear advantage. Balancing is done to make sure that neither person has an advantage. A perfectly balanced game wouldn't give players of equal skill level an advantage on either side.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 03:39 PM

You are simply better at the game. You can be good at an unbalanced game.

Because if two people, who are equal in terms of skill, one being level 1, and the other being max level, the one who is max level has a clear advantage. Balancing is done to make sure that neither person has an advantage. A perfectly balanced game wouldn't give players of equal skill level an advantage on either side.

You are simply better at the game. You can be good at an unbalanced game.

Because if two people, who are equal in terms of skill, one being level 1, and the other being max level, the one who is max level has a clear advantage. Balancing is done to make sure that neither person has an advantage. A perfectly balanced game wouldn't give players of equal skill level an advantage on either side.

But if all guns are balanced there is no problem..

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 04:03 PM

But if all guns are balanced there is no problem..

Kill Streaks, and things like that aren't balanced.
Plus even then, the guns aren't balanced. I can tell you that much from a simple match.

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