I got it! Ideaman said the news is thread worthy and all gamers would think it was big news, not just Nintendo gamers. Also, it's not about the controller. That means, the dev kits were upgraded and optimized to run Unreal 4! The theory fits....

I dunno.
I just think extremely high-end tech stuff is not necessary for Video Games.
If Games are art, then why would you need expensive and pretty looking stuff? You can make the greatest painting with just a pencil, eraser, pen, and colors. You don't need highly expensive stands and super duper shiny colors and automatic brushes and sh** like that, you just don't.
Honestly, now, I hate the videogame industry, I just love games. I hate hate hate developers and their ambition to suck the living crap out of a gamer's money. I hate the idea of actually talented developers not being able to bring their ideas to life because of an stupidly and unnecessary high budget cost. It just sucks. I don't want to end up having to pay $80-$90 dollars for a game, I just don't. I don't want to think about DLC being a major part of a videogame, I don't want monthly cost if games are going to be expensive. How I miss the days when games where just that. Games. Remember when you din't have DLC? When a game was complete? When you payed for a Game, it was a full game, not, "Hey Gamers! But this for $60 even though it's incomplete and enjoy paying extra-money for stuff that could have easily been put in the final product, please support us! We love sucking the money out of you!" Or "Looks at these pretty graphics, Gamers! You should totally buy it because it's a 10-hour campaign will MULTIPLAYER!!!" I hate Epic, EA, Activision. They are slowly but surely ruining the so-called Gaming "Industry."
Then again, this is coming from a 14-year old that has had a N64 and a Gamecube for as long as he can remember.
/Rant


Hey there, Linkhero1 xD

Age has nothing to do with it bro. I'm 23 and I feel the same. In order to experience a full game with all DLC you pretty much have to spend the initial $60 plus $15 in DLC, add tax and your spending around $80 for a product that should have had all that DLC to begin with.

My favorite part about Nintendo was avoiding all this DLC crap. I hope they don't milk it with tier 1st party titles. Iwata said hey intends to sell full games and only want DLC to extend the life of games, which is what the original purpose of DLC was to begin with.

Well epic, enjoy bankrupting the industry with your insane budgets to take advantage of this engine. Ppl will flock to the cheaper to develop for Wii U and you will gain low return on investment on your engine.

Samaritan demo can still be reached by Unreal 3 so there is no reason for UE4 yet.

I agree. With The rumors I would have to say Microsoft has the 720 in development and ready to show or announce at least. Sony still has lots of good titles coming for the PS3 this year and the vita needs hype so they will be software focused.

Mass Effect series

BioWare. Great RPG's. Preordered Mass Effect 3 and The Old Republic already. I have played the two mass effects as much as ocarina of time (like dozens of times haha)

Well, violence never really bothered me much. Maybe I havn't played the most violent of violent video games though. If there is a "Saw" of the video gaming industry, then I would find that tasteless and pointless.

But violence is fine when placed in context. Mortal Kombat, for example, is supposed to be sort of cartoony or slapstick violence. It kind of makes you laugh when you x-ray break someone's rib cage and then rip their spine out, you know? Everything I've seen in COD and BF have been fine, seeing as their an arcade shooter and war simulation, respectively. And the Assassin's Creed series sort of "realistically" shows how a bad-a** assassin would kill people, which is central to the gameplay. And AC doesn't over do blood by any means.

Mad World for Wii was really violent and really bloody, but it similar to Mortal Kombat in that it was supposed to be over the top and comedic. It's not like it had Uncharted graphics and you were sitting there sawing apart realistic looking human beings.

I'm drawing a blank for more examples....

You hit the nail on the head.

Games that look realistic and have over the top gore and violence are ninja Gaiden and Metal Gear Rising seems to be over the top too.

Assuming the new Nintendo network wont add usernames for 3DS i think this is a good place to exchange friends codes.

Delete this thread if it's been posted.

4124-5072-5931

I play MK7, KI: U, and Starfox 64 3D.

3DS redesign with larger screen and dual circle pads plz!

I agree with you. People (fanboys) can say the Vita is way more powerful, but when you compare the graphics, there is really not much of a difference.

Don't jump the gun yet. Vita just launched. Revelations had two years of development time. Wait until next year when you start getting the first party exlusives like God of War or Resistance before comparing graphics. It would be more fair if I compared Ocarina of Time 3D to Uncharted lol.

But my point was, although there is a huge power gap in the two handhelds, it's difficult to notice the differences. They are not as blatant as DS to PSP. Shaders can make anything look good.

It doesn't matter.
One has games, the other doesn't.

bahahahaha

Hard to measure. Do you want to use FLOPS? Resolution? PPI?

The Vita can render more polygons, handle better lighting, AI and Physics (it is a quad core as compared to 3DS's dual core), 512MB of RAM instead of 3DS's 128MB. The Vita has a larger screen that plays at 544p
(qHD) while the 3DS can only manage 240p. But, the 3DS has a higher PPI (basically more clear because of more pixels per inch) and the 3D adds depth to games and also draws out power from the hardware.

If you want a BS multiplier I would say Vita is 3x that of the 3DS in specs.

It has twice as many CPU cores, and three times as much RAM.

It's not as noticable though because the 3DS supports shaders which can mask any bad looking character models. CAse and Point, look at RE: Revelations and compare it to Uncharted Golden Abyss. They don't look to far apart despite one more than twice the resolution as the other.

Super Mario 128. This is too easy. You gotta poll without Nintendo's big 5 franchises lol

It's NSMB Mii people. Its easy to port over and up Rez to 1080p. It will show off features of the controller and help sell the wii u at launch. It is a sequel to the highest selling Wii game that wasn't a pack in game (25 million I think?). It's a sound business strategy. Dunno why people are in denial, NSMBW was awesome.

Pikmin 3 on launch day. Super Mario for Xmas.

Hmmm, looks like my only launch title will be Pikmin 3 and NSMB and maybe Darksiders II then. Damn...

MadWorld 2 on Wii U?

Yay or Nay.

Simple as that. I say 100% Yay.

I think because it was overlooked on the Wii I would add HD visuals and port it over to Wii U with the original controls or add some tablet function. Hope it builds ups audience and then do a MadWorld 2.

Nintendo having a DSP helps the CPU A LOT! Apparently, the way the Xbox 360 CPU was designed, it calculated the audio and it took up almost 50% of processing power. The Wii U will most likely have 3 cores at 3.2GHz but because it has dedicated audio on a seperate chip that calculates on its own, it will leave more CPU power, which means better physics and AI. Couple that with a superior GPU and RAM and you have yourself a true next gen console (if devs optimize the Wii U's hardware and I/O correctly)

The first one was on the N64.

And it was an abomination.

Have a digital keyboard on the GamePad and use the joysticks to move the mouse? This won't work. I love Nintendo, I love Starcraft II, I don't love this.

Its like saying how I love chocolate but I also love lobster. Will dipping lobster in chocolate make it more awesome? No, it would make me quite sick actually and ruin my taste for both things forever.

Samus wins hands down. She is my favourite Nintendo character. She is a bad ass bounty hunter, does everything solo, has awesome powerups, a cool suit, and (this is lowly of me) she is hot....*ashamed*

So far I plan on trying Eternal Sonata and Heavy Rain. Heavenly sword just seems like a watered down God of War based on the demo.

I don't like sandbox games like infamous, GTA, and Red Dead

I prefer the linearity of JRPGs and adventure games.

I forgot to list Uncharted 3. I already beat it. I got it for xmas. Wonderful game.

I got my PS3 in August because i took advantage of a sweet deal ($200 for a 160GB PS3 Slim). Sony has come up with some new IP's this gen and I thought I would enjoy the back catalogue the PS3 has. Sadly, many of the new IP's I didn't like for whatever reason. I'm not a racing fan or shooter fan so Gran Turismo 5 is already ruled out, along with Killzone. However I did enjoy the Resitances 1 & 2 (yet to play 3).

Here is what I bought and played so far for my PS3:

Uncharted (Loved)
Uncharted 2 (Loved)
God of War I & II HD (Loved)
God of War III (Loved)
Final Fantasy XIII (I loved it, sorry to all the people that don't lol)
Final Fantasy XIII-2 (I have yet to open it)
inFamous (sold it, didnt like it, overrated imo)
Resistance 1 and 2 (Loved)

I downloaded the demo's for LittleBigPlanet, Twisted Metal, Heavy Rain, Ratchet and Clank and Rayman Origins. I liked Twisted Metal and Heavy Rain but I am not too keen on Ratchet and LBP. Bayonetta has caught my eye.

Many third party games I get for the PC like Batman and Skyrim and Sonic Generations, etc. so I am only looking for console exclusives on the PS3.

I enjoy RPG's, Action Adventure, Platformers, and Sci-fi shooters (like BioShock or something).

I am a single player gamer, so forget about games with short campaigns or heavy multiplayer focus.

Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

Not really. Just racers sometimes.

Given the choices people are giving me...I feel safe in saying that nobody actually read what I have or what my restrictions were, and just read the title...and rushed to post.

This is my thead actually lol.

So we have 16 days until nintendo officially unveils the final version of the Wii U. So my question is can the Wii U beat out whatever you may think is the best nintendo console of all time? For me I think its the SNES. Now there was a pre E3 2011 rumor that nintendo wanted to replicate the success of the SNES with the Wii U. Basically wanting a modern day SNES. I have very HIGH expectations for this console. I believe over time when developers and gamers have years to play with this controller its going to revolutionize gaming. I can totally see microsoft or sony copying this controller. There are already rumors off apps being created for games given an advantage over other console and making Wii U the must have version of games that are coming out. I do think that nintendo needs a 3rd party exclusive trilogy a la gears of war for 360. Not like the exact same kind of game that gears of war was. Just a hardcore 3rd party game with superb visual and addictive gameplay that has room to grow the story but also try and outdue the previous game and top it. Truthfully I'm not worried about the visuals or online for the Wii U. I do truly believe this console is going to be the best overall console nintendo ever releases. What are your thoughts?

The SNES days will never exist again. Not until third parties forgive Nintendo and Nintendo loses their ways. Also, unless Nintendo makes consoles that are on par with their competitors (Genesis and SNES were not that far apart) the SNES will never happen again.

The NES and SNES were like the PS1 and PS2 for Sony. It came into the market, provided some new experiences, awesome games, and won the gamer crowd over, which lead to higher console sales and more developer support (third party, exclusives, etc.) The third console is when both got cocky (N64 and PS3) going for powerful hardware and banking on developers to utilize it, when instead, they flocked to your competitors for various reasons.

But, do I think the Wii U can become Nintendo's most successful console of all time? No. The market has changed too much since 2006. I don;t think we will ever see a 100 million selling console again, thanks to tablets and smartphones, etc. The casuals are pretty much gone now, it's just the core gamers left imo. Do I think the Wii U can lead the market next gen and sell a high number of consoles (say 70 million like)? Yes.

I mean, lets take a look at all of Nintendo's innovations they have provided in the industry so far, hardware wise.

• D-Pad (NES)
• Shoulder Buttons (SNES)
• Four Face Buttons (Adding X and Y to SNES when the Genesis only had ABC)
• Analog Joystick (N64)
• Analog+Digital Trigger (GameCube)
• Dual Screen Gaming (DS)
• Touch Screen Gaming (DS)
• Glasses free 3D (3DS)
• Motion Controls (Wii)

The Wii U is poised to have all these features (minus the 3D, it will support it if the TV supports it, but the tablet won't have it) plus NFC, possibly the vitality sensor, the ability to stream content to the screen and play on the controller without a TV. Just the controller alone is the most innovative thing the gaming industry has seen. It has all of Nintendo's innovations packed into it, and I can see it selling.

Nintendo always has the software to sell it's hardware, so we know the games will be there, the question is if third parties will be on board (the one's that ditched them during the N64 days) and the answer to that depends on the hardware specs (which based on Epic, Gearbox, and Vigil games comments, is next-gen and powerful enough).

The Wii U will use the same media format as it's competitors (25GB discs, like Blu Ray), so no excuses for production costs, plus it will support external HDD's and SD Cards (something you can't do with Xbox and PS) which will save gamers a ton of money.

The Wii U is also rumored to have a full app store and be the first social console, so I believe it can win back some of the casuals that only bought the Wii as a toy.

Overall, I think the Wii U will end up being a success for Nintendo and will see the gamers who left them for the PS1 and PS2 come back. It may be the best console in hardcore Nintendo fan's opinion, but I stand by my fact that it won't sell well just because it's Nintendo, and the last two core consoles they made that had the same gimmicks as their competitors flopped (N64 33 million, GCN 21 million). I would consider 40 million in sales a success for the Wii U, but I don't see it selling the same numbers as the Wii or 360 did this gen.

If you ask alot of Nintendo gamers what they think the best Ninty console was, many say it was the GameCube because of it's exclusives, graphics, controller, etc. But the fact is, it is the worst selling Nintendo console. So, our opinions on success don't factor into sales for Nintendo.

TL:DR If by successful you mean sales, no I don't think the Wii U will be a sales success. If by a Nintendo fan's standards of games and features you think it will be a success, and winning some core gamers back, then yes, I think it will be a success.