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[Lupaie]

I really love the feeling of the first and second game. The plot and storytelling really closely tight to the topics in Dan Brown's book The Davinci Code and Angels and Demons. Not only did the location play part in that but also the tone and facts.

Somehow it had a vibe to it, that some of the plots could be real and that there is more to the egyptians/greeks mythologies. Florence and the middle-east where believable places.

Somehow, the third part never got me exited. By chance, Dan Brown released a book about that era too, at aprox the same moment called The Lost Symbol.

Yet, 3, never got so mystical and believable than the first couple of games.

Now, 4, (not quitte played to the end) while a great pirating game, is just silly. How could other inland tribes, set on the other side of the globe have contact with the assassins from the middle east. The mythological feel is completely absent for me.

I wish Ubi will stop this sillyness and head back home. There really are some much more logical stories availabe here.

Head further back in time. The times of the troyan wars, Great Greece, Ancient Egypt or even older. The fact that less real history is noted combined with the fact that a much more evidence is at hand from the Old People (not sure how they were called)

It could make a hell of a story.

Even, the mid-era from the Romans would be better. I watched Spartacus Series and thought, "what would happen if a Creed family would be torn apart, set as slaves and gladiators, children killed and women raped. There would be a real feel to it, as well as a really interesting story.

Now, with the tech from AC3, the wilderness and of unhabited aereas in the mediteranea, as well the AC4 tech to set sail in that mediteranean sea's sound so awesome and diverse. Visit old Italy, Greece, Egypt, Assyria, Spain and maybe even France and England by sea, take part in the great inland wars etc.

Anyway, how do you feel?

Sorry for my bad english.

Edited by Lupaie, 02 December 2013 - 11:11 AM.

[grahamf]

I tried AC3, and as my first AC game I had no idea what the hell i was doing.

[TheUltimateWaddleDee]

They should've never tried to connect the games together through the Animus anyway. They should've been self-contained stories that linked in minor ways (mentioning Altiar when Ezio gets the hidden blade is a good example). The worst part of Assassin's Creed games were the segments outside the Animus, and the plot created for it was just stupid.

[meitantei_conan]

The thing with this series is that i never really understood the stories. I'm not sure if its just the way things are laid out but I always found it really confusing to follow. Ass creed 3 was the only assassins creed game that I actually understood. I'm almost done black flag and its a wonderful game, but this game also falls into to nonsensical story category.  

[3Dude]

Every single entry in the series is completely worthless to me besides 4, because they are very very poor video GAMES in comparison. And its the concentration on the blatantly not subtle enough 'mystical' story, and monotonous and self playing combat thats the cause of that.

For me, the near complete dropping of the horrible 'mystical' stuff from 4 is the best thing to happen to the series short of the actual fantastic naval combat and the massive amount of a variety in content it brought to a series that desperately needed it. The animus user being simply a player avatar and not another horribly written character is another bonus.

ac4 Left all the stuff that bugged the crud out of me behind for a wonderfully renewed focus on historical accuracy (its almost like playing a videogame version of a general history of pyrates)... With just the subtlest hints of the supernatural (or in this case technological) indiana jones style (well, pre crystal skull anyways)

As for your question on what the assassins were doing there. Its not the Assassins you should be looking at for the answer, its the Templars. The Spanish government had sent conquistadors throughout the carribean, south america, all over the new world back in the 1490's. The Conquistadors were named after the word 'requonquista', or reconquest, referring to the recent victorious reclaiming of the Iberian peninsula, from the... Thats right, the Muslim states An-Aldalus. I guess after beating up on the middle easterners spain was power tripping and decided to tear the uncharted parts of the world a new one.

As for how that history applies to ac? The conquistadors are blatantly templar, after slaughtering the middle eastern assassins, began conquering the new world in search of first civilization goodies, devastiting natives in their wake. The assassins, being assassins shadowed them and set up resistance forces with surviving natives, particularly around areas tactically relevant to first civilization stuff. They would have been in place a century or more before the events of ac4.

[Lupaie]

So you mean the Assassins could have trained ( in this work of fiction) the native tribes? Nice research btw, makes more sense now. If you can make me a believer, why didnt Ubi do a little intro-animation, i'm sure a good storyteller and a good animator could do that with a 1-minute video. Or do you get to see this later in the gane?

Hell, why don't we create one ourselves?

Edited by Lupaie, 02 December 2013 - 02:14 PM.

[3Dude]

So you mean the Assassins could have trained ( in this work of fiction) the native tribes? Nice research btw, makes more sense now. If you can make me a believer, why didnt Ubi do a little intro-animation, i'm sure a good storyteller and a good animator could do that with a 1-minute video. Or do you get to see this later in the gane?

Hell, why don't we create one ourselves?

I recall their being quite a few indirect allusions to the conquistadors scattered throughout the game. And quite a few corpses you get treasure maps from are decked out in conquistador attire.

[alan123]

i was thinking of getting AC3 in the sale, would you recomend it ?

[Elric]

i was thinking of getting AC3 in the sale, would you recomend it ?

I would recommend getting the second one. That is the one that I enjoyed the most. 

 

 

I feel like Assasin's Creed is running out of ideas. I feel in each game you do the exact same thing, just in a different time period/setting than last time. I enjoyed the first game, but I thought that the second one was vastly improved with a more interesting/personal story and characters. I don't really know how I feel about AC 3. I liked it, but for some reason I just like AC 2 better overall. Haven't played AC 4. 

 

I think it would be cool if they did one taking place in feudal japan, and you played as a ninja/samurai. 

[Poptartboy]

i was thinking of getting AC3 in the sale, would you recomend it ?

I would definitely recommend getting 4 instead. It's a much more interesting game.

[DanI]

I got AC3 with the low price and I enjoy playing it. I never played a game in AC series, so I can't compare it with others... It isn't an extraordinary game, but it sure worths the price. I'll buy AC4 too, after I'll finish AC3.

[alan123]

I got AC3 with the low price and I enjoy playing it. I never played a game in AC series, so I can't compare it with others... It isn't an extraordinary game, but it sure worths the price. I'll buy AC4 too, after I'll finish AC3.

thats what i was thinking of doing.