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[Goose]

I want this thing to sell 100milion+

[duck360]

I wish Handheld Like the 3DS be just for 2D Games. I mean I totally enjoy playing Mario or Any other game when it's 2D on a Handheld but not 3D games, they give me a headache.

[Zinix]

Should've been more specific, I meant 1st party titles that weren't remakes, like Kid Icarus.

But yes, Pilot Wings and Pokemon Rumble Blast would be on the list... though it's still :/ compared to all the Mario titles.

If you want to go into Eshop games, there's been ton of new first party Nintendo IP games this year: Pushmo, Crashmo, Dillon's Rolling Western, Fludity: Spin Cycle (though this one is yet to come out)

[Noonabites]

If you want to go into Eshop games, there's been ton of new first party Nintendo IP games this year: Pushmo, Crashmo, Dillon's Rolling Western, Fludity: Spin Cycle (though this one is yet to come out)

But I'm not referring to eShop games, I'm referring to retail games. Full blown worth 40 bucks games.

[Zinix]

But I'm not referring to eShop games, I'm referring to retail games. Full blown worth 40 bucks games.

Professor Layton and The Miracle Mask
New Art Academy
Nintendogs+ Cats
Freakyforms Deluxe
Steel Diver
Pilotwings Resort
Lego City Undercover
Rhyme Thief
Spirit Camera
Style Savy
Tetris Axis
Kid Icarus
Pokemon Rumble Blast

All those games worth owning or renting and they outweight the number of Mario games.

[Mitch]

... though it's still :/ compared to all the Mario titles.

Your so greedy... Is Pilotwings not enough for you!?!!?!!

Edited by Mitch13pavel, 28 November 2012 - 07:25 PM.

[Noonabites]

Professor Layton and The Miracle Mask - NOT FIRST PARTY
New Art Academy - Not 40, is Kuju part of Nintendo?
Nintendogs+ Cats - Free Pass
Freakyforms Deluxe - Horrible game, also not retailed at 40, Is Asobism even part of Nintendo?
Steel Diver - Not currently 40
Pilotwings Resort - Not currently 40, and though I enjoyed, not worth 40
Lego City Undercover - Not 1st Party, TT fushion even Nintendo? Also not even out, therefore your statement cannot be justified.
Rhyme Thief - Not retailed at 40, Not 1st Party, Not even Published by Nintendo
Spirit Camera - Not 40, Is Tecmo part of Nintendo?
Style Savy - Free Pass, though I have to ask, have you played this game to justify your statement?
Tetris Axis - Worst Tetris Game also not retailed at 40, also not 1st party
Kid Icarus - Already stated this
Pokemon Rumble Blast - Already stated this

All those games worth owning or renting and they outweight the number of Mario games.

Nintendogs+Cats
Steel Diver
Pilot Wings
Style Savvy
Kid Icarus
Pokemon Rumble Blast

Mario Kart 7
Mario 3D Land
New Super Mario Brothers 2
Mario Tennis Open
Mario and Sonic at the Olympics Games
Paper Mario

They're tied, hence they don't outweigh one another (though, I still should argue otherwise) but I will say that that Mario bundle far surpasses the other titles. I'm sticking to my original point.

Your so greedy... Is Pilotwings not enough for you!?!!?!!

Your right sexy Mitch T__T How dare I!!

Edited by Noonabites, 28 November 2012 - 07:53 PM.

[Zinix]

Nintendogs+Cats
Steel Diver
Pilot Wings
Style Savvy
Kid Icarus
Pokemon Rumble Blast

Mario Kart 7
Mario 3D Land
New Super Mario Brothers 2
Mario Tennis Open
Mario and Sonic at the Olympics Games
Paper Mario

They're tied, hence they don't outweigh one another (though, I still should argue otherwise) but I will say that that Mario bundle far surpasses the other titles. I'm sticking to my original point.



Your right sexy Mitch T__T How dare I!!

I wouldn't count Sonic and Mario, Sega Sports Japan developed it, Nintendo had nothing to do with it, all they did was give them permission to use Mario characters. Sega published the title so it's third party. So it isn't tied.

Edited by Zinix, 28 November 2012 - 08:04 PM.

[Noonabites]

I wouldn't count Sonic and Mario, Sega Sports Japan developed it, Nintendo had nothing to do with it, all they did was give them permission to use Mario characters. Sega published the title so it's third party. So it isn't tied.

Like Kingdom Hearts, that's debatable, both parties published the game (Nintendo published in Japan) and Nintendo has credit in development. Also, were we not talking about the amount of Mario games vs other 1st party IPs? Mario is an IP belonging to Nintendo, hence that game would count in this discussion.

[Zinix]

Like Kingdom Hearts, that's debatable, both parties published the game (Nintendo published in Japan) and Nintendo has credit in development. Also, were we not talking about the amount of Mario games vs other 1st party IPs? Mario is an IP belonging to Nintendo, hence that game would count in this discussion.

Nintendo oversaw the project, they had no involvement with the game at all. The game was developed at SEGA, therefore it's a third party title. So what about Nintendo publishing it? Square Enix publishes Call of Duty in Japan, it doesn't mean that they were involved with the development of the game. Nintendo published the game in order to advertise the game more and made sure it had the proper of amount of marketing. We are talking about that yes, but the Mario and Sonic series shouldn't be even include because it has little involvement from Nintendo and the majority of game is developed by SEGA.

[SoldMyWiiUAndLeftTheForums]

3DS is awesome, I hold my hands up I underestimated it, I can't wait to get one again

[Noonabites]

Nintendo oversaw the project, they had no involvement with the game at all. The game was developed at SEGA, therefore it's a third party title. So what about Nintendo publishing it? Square Enix publishes Call of Duty in Japan, it doesn't mean that they were involved with the development of the game. Nintendo published the game in order to advertise the game more and made sure it had the proper of amount of marketing. We are talking about that yes, but the Mario and Sonic series shouldn't be even include because it has little involvement from Nintendo and the majority of game is developed by SEGA.

Because it's still a title involving Mario on a system with a ton of Mario games. That's why it matters. Even if the amount was off by one game, the fact that the margin is only that slim is an issue, because we're talking about Mario games having more quality and almost more quantity on the system within it's first year than even a group of random first party IPs in which almost have no comparison! Yes, this is an issue. And you're right in who cares about publishing, though isn't that something you should've thought of when you gave me that huge list of games that was almost entirely made up of games PUBLISHED by Nintendo?

[Zinix]

Because it's still a title involving Mario on a system with a ton of Mario games. That's why it matters. Even if the amount was off by one game, the fact that the margin is only that slim is an issue, because we're talking about Mario games having more quality and almost more quantity on the system within it's first year than even a group of random first party IPs in which almost have no comparison! Yes, this is an issue. And you're right in who cares about publishing, though isn't that something you should've thought of when you gave me that huge list of games that was almost entirely made up of games PUBLISHED by Nintendo?

Yes it is odd that Nintendo's mascot is starring on the 3DS, that's very strange indeed! Nintendo chooses to put a large amount of Mario game on their systems because Mario games make them money, simple as that. You're acting like the 3DS isn't worth owning, which isn't true at all. You're being biased and ignoring the excellent selection of third party titles (Resident Evil Revelations, Tekken, Virtue's Last Reward) and making it seem that the 3DS's library is only filled with Mario titles that are worth owning. You don't seem understand my analogy about Square Enix publishing COD in Japan, I'll let you slide with that one. You don't judge a handheld's library based on first party titles alone.

Edited by Zinix, 28 November 2012 - 09:20 PM.

[Noonabites]

Yes it is odd that Nintendo's mascot is starring on the 3DS, that's very strange indeed! Nintendo chooses to put a large amount of Mario game on their systems because Mario games make them money, simple as that. You're acting like the 3DS isn't worth owning, which isn't true at all. You're being biased and ignoring the excellent selection of third party titles (Resident Evil Revelations, Tekken, Virtue's Last Reward) and making it seem that the 3DS's library is only filled with Mario titles that are worth owning. You don't seem understand my analogy about Square Enix publishing COD in Japan, I'll let you slide with that one. You don't judge a handheld's library based on first party titles alone.

Then clearly you didn't read the statement I originally posted on this thread.
Also, clearly you're ignoring the fact that you named Nintendo published games as first party IP.
But I'll let you slide on that one.
Also, I keep trying to tell you that we should discuss this in chat as it's derailing the thread.

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To shift it back on topic: I'm glad the 3DS was able to recover this well. The sales are a lot better than I ever imagined, especially after the initial failure. Does anyone think it'll be as great as the DS?

[Zinix]

Then clearly you didn't read the statement I originally posted on this thread.
Also, clearly you're ignoring the fact that you named Nintendo published games as first party IP.
But I'll let you slide on that one.
Also, I keep trying to tell you that we should discuss this in chat as it's derailing the thread.

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To shift it back on topic: I'm glad the 3DS was able to recover this well. The sales are a lot better than I ever imagined, especially after the initial failure. Does anyone think it'll be as great as the DS?

Ugh. I'm done arguing with you, I don't have time for this. I'll give you the self-satisfaction and declare you the winner, even though you're wrong.

This topic has been derailed, so let's get back to the original purpose.

[TheftyGamer]

I am glad it is selling well. I love the console myself.

[CUD]

Just goes to show the better console isn't the more successful console, that's even more true in the industry of today.

Professor Layton and The Miracle Mask
New Art Academy
Nintendogs+ Cats
Freakyforms Deluxe
Steel Diver
Pilotwings Resort
Lego City Undercover
Rhyme Thief
Spirit Camera
Style Savy
Tetris Axis
Kid Icarus
Pokemon Rumble Blast

All those games worth owning or renting and they outweight the number of Mario games.

You're really grasping at straws there, only a couple of those are decent the majority are no where near worth 40 bucks.

I'm not a big Mario fan so because of the 3DS' lacking library I have very little reason to play it, especially when so many great games are being released for the Vita.

[Nollog]

Ugh. I'm done arguing with you, I don't have time for this. I'll give you the self-satisfaction and declare you the winner, even though you're wrong.
This topic has been derailed, so let's get back to the original purpose.

I think she won and is correct.
Mario needs a break.
Nintendo aren't doing enough with their other IP's.
I don't think either of us, or CUD are saying the 3DS sucks and has no games.
We're saying we'd like some non-Mario games next year, and some focus on some of the other great games Nintendo can make at e3.

[Chaotix]

Remember how much doubt there was for the 3DS?

Industry analysts are a joke...

Yup I remember those articles *coughigncough* 3ds is doomed.

Oh and btw noonabites won that arguement zinix sorry.

Edited by Chaotix, 29 November 2012 - 01:29 PM.