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#81 tshrimp

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 02:09 PM

Nope! Sony will go down swinging before they abandon the fan base they got this gen. That's really all Sony has had this gen is "this game is only graphically poissble on our hardware. They will make sure they have the best hardware specs"for their devs". Sony position right now is to make sure their 1st and 2nd party games obliterate the competition in graphics. Its the look at me I'm bigger than you mentality.


Maybe you can help me with this. I hear that games are "only graphicaly possable on our hardware" about the PS3, but I have both a PS3 and Xbox 360. The reviews usually give the graphical nod and framerate smoothness to xbox. Also I have them both and when I can download the demo on both I do and the Xbox usually looks better. I admit Uncharted series (my favorite) looks great, but impossible to compare with the Xbox 360. Thanks for you clarification as to me the Xbox 360 always seemed to have better graphics than the PS3 (bet very close). Thanks

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 02:10 PM

As for exclusives I have to go Sony, MS, then Nintendo. But this will always depend on what you like. This is why I have all the systems :)


MS ahead of Nintendo for exclusives? Whaaaaaaat? Halo, Forza, and Gears.....what else is there?
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Posted 29 November 2012 - 02:13 PM

Maybe you can help me with this. I hear that games are "only graphicaly possable on our hardware" about the PS3, but I have both a PS3 and Xbox 360. The reviews usually give the graphical nod and framerate smoothness to xbox. Also I have them both and when I can download the demo on both I do and the Xbox usually looks better. I admit Uncharted series (my favorite) looks great, but impossible to compare with the Xbox 360. Thanks for you clarification as to me the Xbox 360 always seemed to have better graphics than the PS3 (bet very close). Thanks

This guy gets it.

Developers also had problems with the CELL Cpu, that's why 360 games look better.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 02:22 PM

MS ahead of Nintendo for exclusives? Whaaaaaaat? Halo, Forza, and Gears.....what else is there?


This is whay I said it depends on what you like. What does Nintendo have? Mario games, Zelda, Donky Kong. None of which I like much. Not to say they are bad games for some. I can understand why some like them, but to me Halo, Forza, Gears, PGR, Fable, Shadow Complex, etc.are better games. I am lucky to have all the systems, so am not pinned down if an exclusive comes out for the Wii U.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 02:26 PM

Only exclusive I'm super stoked about is Zelda...............mmmmmmmm Zelda.................. and Smash Bros................oh and whatever 3D Mario deal they are working on...........................Ok i like nintendo
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Posted 29 November 2012 - 03:04 PM

I know the CPU had been getting some ridicule, but assumed the reviewers just didn't have the facts yet, or that it was at least close to the Xbox and PS3. I even assumed it was faster than the other 2,but just not utilized properly as it was a new system. But to find out it is 1.25ghz is actually irritating. I want to go back to the time when I didn't know. As soon as my Xbox and PS friends get hold of this I have to put up with their crap. I was so looking forward to throwing the Wii U in their face. Now I get kicked about again. Hard to use the "good game" thing on them as all the systems have great 1st and 3rd part games IMO.


Its still considerably more powerful than the ps360 cpus overall. Just not in one specific area, and certainly not as advanced over the two as its gpu is.

Clock for clock broadway, or in general the ppc750 line rapes xenon and cell. And then roofies them and does it again. If just a single core broadway was clocked up to 3.2 Ghz it would completely destroy xenon and cell by orders of magnitude.. obliterate them, in every category but simd/floating point.

The problem was ibm, at the time, couldnt clock their OoO chips any higher, this is why they reverted back to in order execution (similar to the horrible p4 core compared to the p3 core) and they needed to compete with intel.

Well, they failed. They hit a wall even with their gamble of poor architectures clocked stupid fast. So, IBM lost apple to intel, thus power mac (this imcluded ps360) died, and icore was born. This is also.why.ps4 and 720 are x86 now.

The technology they needed eventually came in the form of their proprietary edram, which enabled them to shrink their processors size, heat, and power draw exponentially, while outperforming at lower clocks.

I just didnt think theyd use this technology to bring back the 750 line. Come on Nintendo, you lied through your teeth, this is NOT all new.

Anyways, with 3 cores over 1Ghz, damn super broadway is an ipc (instruction per cycle) monster compared to cell or xenon. The only thing its weak in is simd/flops, both from lack of cycles and giving craps (paired singles nintendo? STILL? REALLY?). This is why its actually running rushed ps360 ports, because it can do more instructions in the same amount of time as ps360, despite having less cycles in that amount of time, because it does a lot more instructions per cycle.

And the gpgpu picks up the simd, as they are very strong in that department.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 08:30 PM

Mario Kart, yes it's a karting game but still.


Wait a second, I like myself some Mario Kart, but I like sim racing in GT5 as well. Let's be fair, Mario Kart and GT5 are very different games in a very broad racing category. Mario Kart would be a much better comparison to Mod Nation Racers or something than GT5.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 08:46 PM

That's not what I meant. It's on par with the current consoles and won't be able to compete with the new consoles Sony and Microsoft are going to release. They said it was 3X more powerful then the current consoles they lied.


This comment is so bogus, I don't have a reply for it.

Okay, that is not true. So you are taking one aspect of a console and saying it is not more powerful than what is currently available. When you clearly dont understand how technology works. My phone, which processor is clocked at 1.2ghz, is more powerful than my parents Intel P4 clocked at 2.0 GHZ. If i was going on clock speeds alone, I would cry foul.

This is similar to the whole bit arguement. 64-bit, 32-bit ... but it didn't mean much. In fact the Xbox had a 32-bit chip but its more powerful then the n64.

So you can believe the Wii U isn't next gen. At this point, it doesn't matter.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 09:17 PM

Don’t fall for the Megahertz Myth guys, as clock speed is only one aspect of how the CPU works, there is more to it than that.

http://en.wikipedia..../Megahertz_myth
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Posted 29 November 2012 - 09:19 PM

Don’t fall for the Megahertz Myth guys, as clock speed is only one aspect of how the CPU works, there is more to it than that.

http://en.wikipedia..../Megahertz_myth

I think everyone knows that. But a 1.2GHz processor of a better architecture is not necessarily better than a 3.2GHz processor of a worse architecture.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 09:23 PM

I think everyone knows that. But a 1.2GHz processor of a better architecture is not necessarily better than a 3.2GHz processor of a worse architecture.


But that wasn't even a clock while running a game. It's not it's actual clock speed. Even of it is, though, the GPU is meant to help the CPU. So again, you are aspect and blowing it to be a bigger deal.
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Posted 29 November 2012 - 09:32 PM

Maybe you can help me with this. I hear that games are "only graphicaly possable on our hardware" about the PS3, but I have both a PS3 and Xbox 360. The reviews usually give the graphical nod and framerate smoothness to xbox. Also I have them both and when I can download the demo on both I do and the Xbox usually looks better. I admit Uncharted series (my favorite) looks great, but impossible to compare with the Xbox 360. Thanks for you clarification as to me the Xbox 360 always seemed to have better graphics than the PS3 (bet very close). Thanks


Xbox is better for 3rd parties. It has better gpu and easier to develop for. Ps3 has a crazy CPU that's hard to develop for but Sony devs have gotten the most out the machines and games look better overall. Like the last of us.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 11:17 PM

i want to know why reggie said multiplats look significantly better on Wii u when they don't, i saw the batman comparison video and the only big noticable difference is the quality on batman's suit.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 11:19 PM

I can't believe people are taking him seriously...

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 11:28 PM

But that wasn't even a clock while running a game. It's not it's actual clock speed. Even of it is, though, the GPU is meant to help the CPU. So again, you are aspect and blowing it to be a bigger deal.


It's not an idle clock rate, he says that a few tweets after OP stopped quoting. If he's right, and there's very little to doubt him for, that's the full clock speed of the chip.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 12:56 AM

I know the CPU had been getting some ridicule, but assumed the reviewers just didn't have the facts yet, or that it was at least close to the Xbox and PS3. I even assumed it was faster than the other 2,but just not utilized properly as it was a new system. But to find out it is 1.25ghz is actually irritating. I want to go back to the time when I didn't know. As soon as my Xbox and PS friends get hold of this I have to put up with their crap. I was so looking forward to throwing the Wii U in their face. Now I get kicked about again. Hard to use the "good game" thing on them as all the systems have great 1st and 3rd part games IMO.


I don't understand your reasoning. Simply get the console you have the most fun with. It sounds as you would have more fun with a Sony machine, so what's the problem? This "company loyalty" is just stupid. Don't be stupid. Never put any of your identity in the brands of the products you buy. Me, I think the Wii have better games than Xbox360 and PS3, so I have a Wii.

This is whay I said it depends on what you like. What does Nintendo have? Mario games, Zelda, Donky Kong. None of which I like much.


Other good Wii exclusives were Metroid prime trilogy, Monster Hunter Tri and Xenoblade Chronicles. Just mentioning...

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 12:56 AM

Break it down for me a noob please, How powerful is the Wii U?

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 02:10 AM

Break it down for me a noob please, How powerful is the Wii U?

Basically the Wii U is using a much lower clockspeed than PS3/360, but more modern and efficient CPU. So it's hard to say, it seems like it's somewhat better than the competition but it's difficult to say how much by. GPU is also more modern making it a bit better.

Looking at comparison video's of current multiplat games though i'm barely seeing a difference on Wii U..

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 03:32 AM

Mario Kart, yes it's a karting game but still.


Nah they are completely different games.

It's like saying ratchet and clank and mario 3d games is the same thing because you steer a character in third person.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 07:42 AM

I don't understand your reasoning. Simply get the console you have the most fun with. It sounds as you would have more fun with a Sony machine, so what's the problem? This "company loyalty" is just stupid. Don't be stupid. Never put any of your identity in the brands of the products you buy. Me, I think the Wii have better games than Xbox360 and PS3, so I have a Wii.



Other good Wii exclusives were Metroid prime trilogy, Monster Hunter Tri and Xenoblade Chronicles. Just mentioning...


Thanks for your response. Maybe I do have a "Problem" as you state. I guess I have been arround too long, and expect my next gen gaming console to be better than last Gen even if it is against the competitors. One of the reason I am irritated is I can forsee 3rd party devs not making games for it when the PS4 and Xbox720 comes out as it will not be cost effective to make an entire new game for one system. It is much more cost effective to port.

With that said...I do not have any "brand loyalty" as you mentioned. I have the following systems and like them all. Vita (where are the games), 3Ds, DS, PS3, Xbox360, Wii, Wii U. Have owned Atari 2600, Sega Gen, GameCube, Xbox, PS1, GB, GBA.

The only brand loyalty I have is to never buy another Toyota. All other than that I don't like to limit my choices by liking only one company.




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