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#1 Zinix

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:05 AM

Miyamoto was in the U.K. to accept a Fellowship award from BAFTA, and said, "It's a great honor that my name might be listed as a fellowship member along with such a great director as Hitchcock."

At the same time, Miyamoto resisted the idea of putting games in the same classification as film, noting that he sees his role more as that of an entertainer. "I have never said that video games (are) an art," he said.
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He also says similar things in another interview.

Shigeru Miyamoto "What we have created are not art but products. For us, the main are the customers and not games themselves. I always tell staff to call Nintendo games products, not art."

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:22 AM

I would have to disagree with Mr. Miyamoto. Games are pure expression of the devs. Why would someone say a game like Okami or Earthbound isnt art?

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:24 AM

That's a shame. I understand where he's coming from, but it's a real shame IMO

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:27 AM

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I would have to disagree with Mr. Miyamoto. Games are pure expression of the devs. Why would someone say a game like Okami or Earthbound isnt art?


Unfortunately its all subjective. A lot of people don't consider video games OR movies art. My personal opinion is that they are more of an art form than any of the garbage they call "modern art" is.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:31 AM

Films are products too. Sounds like he is just being humble.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:43 AM

Meh. I say he's wrong but no one can agree on what "art" means so I guess whatever. In any case he says he's an entertainer rather than an artist even though those terms are often used synonymously.
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#7 Alex Wolfers

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:49 AM

Meh. I say he's wrong but no one can agree on what "art" means so I guess whatever. In any case he says he's an entertainer rather than an artist even though those terms are often used synonymously.

Even entertainment is art That includes movies,music,and in this case video games.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 10:01 AM

Even entertainment is art That includes movies,music,and in this case video games.

That's what I was saying...sorry I can never tell if people are agreeing with me or not...
"So if Zero Suit Samus is fanbait for guys, where is the fanbait for girls? Why isn’t Captain Falcon wearing a thong or sporting a chest twice the size of his last model? Why doesn’t Mario have an absurd crotch buldge holding in his 10 inch slice of manhood? Why doesn’t Yoshi look like a Fist of the North Starcharacter.
 
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 10:10 AM

Someone on another forum with the same avatar as you made a topic like this.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:07 AM

I would have to disagree with Mr. Miyamoto. Games are pure expression of the devs. Why would someone say a game like Okami or Earthbound isnt art?


This. But he's free to say what he wants. He freaking created Mario. :P
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:21 AM

games like jurney and final fantasy (till X episode) prove him wrong. Maybe because his games dont have voice overs, deep scenario, etc... He have to try it once! And I believe he insults some of his stuff. The reason is, the level designers are graphic artists! is it? Art is a part of video games, from the point video games have visuals and sound.

Edited by Orion, 19 February 2013 - 11:23 AM.


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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:28 AM

I agree with him. A video game is a "game" after all, it has rules, objectives and an outcome, art doesn't. You wouldn't call chess "art" would you?

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:33 AM

I agree with him. A video game is a "game" after all, it has rules, objectives and an outcome, art doesn't. You wouldn't call chess "art" would you?


Some people display artful chess pieces and boards in their home and put them on display (without playing them). So yes, it can be called art especially if the pieces or gameboard was crafted from scratch and handmade. It's all how people interpret things and nothing more.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:38 AM

Some people display artful chess pieces and boards in their home and put them on display (without playing them). So yes, it can be called art especially if the pieces or gameboard was crafted from scratch and handmade. It's all how people interpret things and nothing more.


I'm talking about chess as a game, not the tools that are used to play the game (i.e the chess pieces).

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:41 AM

That's what I was saying...sorry I can never tell if people are agreeing with me or not...

Its cool symbol. I often have the same problem. Its an asperger thing with me. Im working on it though.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:01 PM

Interesting, I have to agree with Mr. Miyamoto, a game is a game no matter how you look at it, gamers call him god but he never said he was.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:20 PM

Psh, dubstep is the true art.

im just kidding you know ._.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:37 PM

i hope u dont mean something like that...

thats corruption of human kind. Totally unrespectful in human/mother nature. They could feed 100 people with all of that.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:49 PM

That's because the video game industry is a business before anything, it's about the $$$. I disagree & do believe it is a form of art, I think he just wants to place more emphasis on it being a product/thing sold to a consumer rather than the actual work being put into it making it a form of art.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:49 PM

So I can only assume that my beautifully handcrafted Fabergé egg is merely a product, and not art?

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