Goodtwin

The cycle pretty much like 6th gen... nothing wrong with it. Artstyle can make a game looks so much more amazing then somehting trying to push realistic graphics. All three system in their lifetimes will give us multiple amazing looking games.

Xbox One isn't optimised for Xbox One. If you hadn't noticed, almost all games run worse on the One than the PS4 due to a POWER difference, not optimisation. You can claim optimisation if the console is more powerful and still running the games worse (like the Wii U vs PS360 thing), but if the power difference actually exists then it's hard to call it an optimisation problem.

Just going to toss out the fact that Nintendo has always been good with compression of their games. Example Wii Game data size uncompressed for say Smash Brawl was about 7 gig Compressed was about 3gb 3.5gb (been a while since I messed with it). I will agree that Nintendo is good at saving space since they never go with the cutting edge in lieu of game innovation as far as one function or another, at least with the Wii and Wii U.Not sure why you single out the Kinect as the reason it doesn't run games in native 1080p. The function of it should have no play in the way most games run. I could see this being argued if the game had heavy integration and use of the sensors input for game play display rendering it could limit the game output but for games such as COD where it has none that I know of it shouldn’t be an issue at all. But who knows how its coded in the OS, for all I know the thing is on all the time for whatever reason.
 
 
 
As far as power of the Wii U its not really a debate when you get down to the numbers, its slower than both the XB One and PS4 by a fair margin. Its GPU is about 300Mhz slower than the Xb One or PS4s GPU's.
 
As for CPU playing a part in graphics these days your info might be a bit out of date. With the intro of coding for the GPU directly with things like CUDA and other GPU languages the GFX really do come down to GPU speed. The CPU is going to carry the system when it comes down to physics calculations and that group of functions but for shinny its 90% GPU.
 
 
For whom ever is attacking the guy that said his buddy was in the dev side and said it was PS4 then Wii U then Xb one as far as raw numbers goes it might not play this way. I have no access to a Wii U/PS4/XB One dev kit so I can't say for sure but if he does have that buddy I would have to guess he is taking into account the Multi-Tasking the XB One is doing. With the amount of background tasks that Microsoft has said without accounting for the OS or other tasks this line up could very well be true when it comes down to how much of the system you can use on running games.
 
On the other hand I want to say like most people here the Wii U will fall behind as the other two systems get bugs worked out and optimize the OS.
 
But I guess I should ramble my way back to the topic of the thread, the power of the Wii U. I feel the real power of the system is not in the spec speeds of the system but in the way they will get used. Unlike Sony or Microsoft devs it seems that big guns for Nintendo take the time to utilize every flop of the GPU/CPU, rendering and compressing textures and skins to save on GPU stress and focus on the game not the bells and whistles such as in game DVR function, overly social integration (lets be honest Facebook/Twitter/whatever doesn't need to know you just beat a lvl on a game or unlocked something every 10 min) and online function that's only there to help sell DLC.
 
When fighting of what it can and can't do remember it all comes down to clean coding by the dev and optimization!
 
 
Some qucik reading for XB one and PS4 specs
http://www.extremete...u-and-gpu-specs
http://www.techpower...ox-one-gpu.html
http://www.techpower...ystation-4.html
 
Wii U specs
http://www.techpower.../wii-u-gpu.html
http://www.ign.com/a...tails-uncovered

Ryudo, on 01 Jan 2014 - 02:24 AM, said:
I think the carts ended up holding up to 32MB. In the early days might have been more 8-16. Earthbound was 24 and Super Mario RPG claimed to use a 32MB cart. So they could have used more even early on.

Yes i am looking forward to 2014. nintendo is claiming they have 3rd party content coming from the big publishers... I am calling BS. they are probably talking about lego games, and the next skylanders and disney infinity type games. Nintendo needs to stop the BS not one really big game for 2014(outside of watchdogs which will probably be sucky 360 port) has been announced for Wii U. it isnt a big deal for me because i can play through about 5 good games a year and be fine... so MK8, X, Smash 4, Bayo 2, and DKTF and i am good... but for those that want 3rd party support you are Fu(%ed.

Will they give us a zombie U sequel????? I just dont have any respect for these third party companies. they chase the dollar too much. The harsh reality is Nintendo is not looked at as a priority for 3rd parties. I can guarantee you if Wii U was selling like hot cackes it still wouldnt be getting the 3rd party support owners would want.

Doesn't matter this is another Win for the WiiU underpowered, 7th gen console, and not next gen crowd. This COD:Ghost, and Arkham Origins all (according to digital foundry) got outperformed by last gen 7 year old consoles. Nintendo step up and demand these developers do better with your hardware. Just negative press for Wii U that it doesn't need.

playing this online about a hour ago there was only 1400 people playing on the WiiU, near enough impossible to get a game