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[dragomix]

So this picture just came on gaf... can somebody translate what it says?

 

 

[grahamf]

That page is just an overview. All I got out of it were a tiebraking protocol and one core has 4x the memory of the other two. Nothing really new.

[Mahmoodinho98]

from what i got it seems that Wii U cpu is of high quality and abillity it seems to be able to produce a higher number of floating-point performance and has a higher data transfer rate than other processors  based on Power PC architecture

from what i got it seems that Wii U cpu is of high quality and abillity it seems to be able to produce a higher number of floating-point performance and has a higher data transfer rate than other processors  based on Power PC architecture

[3Dude]

They specified they made improvements to floating point over broadways paired singles. Thats news to me.

Aside from that its stuff to mantain coherency between the 3 cores, resolve conflicts, and talks about the caches which we already knew.

[Zinix]

What does this mean. 

[cupoftea]

SO ITS EXACTLY WHAT WIIBOY101 SAID IT WAS ALL THOSE YEARS AGO ON THIS VERY SITE AND SISTER SITES??????

 

THOUGHT AS MUCH WIIBOY101 PREDICTED AND EXPLAINED THIS CPU ALMOST PERFECTLY YEARS AGO TO THIS VERY COMUNITY FACT 

 

GUY HAS BEEN PROVEN CORRECT YET AGAIN THAT GUY IS THE DEFINTION OF CORE GAMER RESPECT WIIBOY U D man !!!

 

 

expresso is clearly 3 next gen broadway cores together as a tri core and has edram catch vs older sram catch 

 

each cpu has its own level 2 catch so theres at least 12 x the bandwidth of broadway 

 

clock speed x 3 and double again for edram vs sram as edram is 2x bandwidth of sram = around 12 x the catch bandwidth of broadway theres also 12 x as much catch 256k x12 =3mb 

 

the cpu has dirct buses to both main ram and gpu edram 

 

with 4to1 peak data compression the catch can be 12 mb effective and the direct access to gpu edram allows a huge fast ram high bandwidth feed o the cpu core MUCH MUCH MUCH FAsTER THAN PS4s cpu set up???

 

each core has FIFO DATA BURST PIPES for high speed graphics data to gpu again with 4 x data compression ??

 

each core is 4 stages long by far the shortest pipeline in cpus today and also the highest clocked 4 stage risc cpu on the planet ????

 

custom gaming simds flouting point engine with peak 4to1 data compression plus whatever new stuff is in there 

 

REMINDER BROADWAY AND POWERPC CL WERE AT THE TIME THE FASTEST CLOCK FOR CLOCK 32 BIT CORES IN EXISTENCE DURING Wiis GENERATION 

 

powerpc cl a broadway spin off was many many times more powerful per clock than ATOM AND AMDs BOBCAT and ARMs a8 a9 cpus 

 

 

clock for clock EXPRESSO is likely the most powerful 32 bit risc core in EXISTENCE TODAY just like powerpc cl was back in the day 

 

cpu has a arm co-cpu and a HD surround sound processor EFFECTIVLY A 4TH CORE 

 

thank you and good night 

 

 

45nm copperwire tech and silicon on insulator tech and custom ibm MCM 

Edited by cupoftea, 24 November 2013 - 06:07 PM.

[NintendoReport]

SO ITS EXACTLY WHAT WIIBOY101 SAID IT WAS ALL THOSE YEARS AGO ON THIS VERY SITE AND SISTER SITES??????

 

THOUFHT AS MUCH WIIBOY101 PREDICTED AND EXPLAINED THIS CPU ALMOST PERFECTLY YEARS AGO TO THIS VERY COMUNITY FACT 

 

GUY HAS BEEN PROVEN CORRECT YET AGAIN THAT GUY IS THE DEFINTION OF CORE GAMER RESPECT WIIBOY U D man !!!

 

 

expresso is clearly 3 next gen broadway cores together as a tri core and has edram catch vs older sram catch 

 

each cpu has its own level 2 catch so theres at least 12 x the bandwidth of broadway 

 

clock speed x 3 and double again for edram vs sram as edram is 2x bandwidth of sram = around 12 x the catch bandwidth of broadway theres also 12 x as much catch 256k x12 =3mb 

 

the cpu has dirct buses to both main ram and gpu edram 

 

with 4to1 peak data compression the catch can be 12 md effective and the direct access to gpu edram allows a huge fast ram high bandwidth eed o the cpu core MUCH MUCH MUCH FADTER THAN PS4s cpu set up???

 

each core has FIFO DATA BURST PIPES for high speed graphics data to gpu again with 4 x data compression ??

 

each core is 4 stages long by far the shortest pipeline in cpus today and also the highest clocked 4 stage risc cpu on the planet ????

 

custom gaming simds flouting point engine with peak 4to1 data compression plus whatever new stuff is in there 

 

REMINDER BROADWAY AND POWERPC CL WERE AT THE TIME THE FASTEST CLOCK FOR CLOCK 32 BIT CORES IN EXISTENCE DURING Wiis GENERATION 

 

powerpc cl a broadway spin off was many many times more powerful per clock than ATOM AND AMDs BOBCAT and ARMs a8 a9 cpus 

 

 

clock for clock EXPRESSO is likely the most powerful 32 bit risc core in EXISTENCE TODAY just like powerpc cl was back in the day 

 

cpu has a arm co-cpu and a HD surround sound processor EFFECTIVLY A 4TH CORE 

 

thank you and good night 

 

[cupoftea]

expresso pipeline stages 

 

general core 4 stages flouting point 7stages 

 

jaguar pipeline stages 

 

general cores 16 stages flouting point 21 stages.....  expresso is 4 x shorter 

 

 

xbox360 cpu pipeline stages 32 to 40 longest in history  even longer than prescott pentium 4 witch was total AZZ 

 

10 X LONGER THAN EXPRESSO 

 

expresso cpu has th highest clock speed of any 4 stage risc cpu EVER and is exstreamly efficent 

 

 

around 12 x the cpu that broadway was 

Edited by cupoftea, 24 November 2013 - 06:26 PM.

[Azure-Edge]

Can I get a translator in here por favor?

[NintendoReport]

Can I get a translator in here por favor?

 

awaiting 3dude, or another great mind here on the forums.

 

[tboss]

id bet we need more pages than the overview to get better details.

[3Dude]

awaiting 3dude, or another great mind here on the forums.
 

Its the happening being the happening with a new name.

[Arkhandar]

Its the happening being the happening with a new name.

 

oh, I sure missed his CPU "catch".

[3Dude]

oh, I sure missed his CPU "catch".

Heh. Speaking of cache's this confirms An increase to 4 way associative cache to L2 over broadways 2 way.

Wonder if the l1 increased in kind to 16 way.... Full? Nah, way too small.

Though couldnt imagine much of a need to, with the size of the caches, 8,16, and full associativity would likely be close to indistinguishable miss wise.

[GAMER1984]

Well can't wait to see a game take advantage of these "next gen" features. I am tired of all the tech talk. GAMES!

[GCD]

All i know is all that hardware allows games like Mario 3D, so if that's what can be produced so early in the machines lifespan then i can safely sit back and enjoy my wii-u, safe in the knowledge that i will be enjoying great playing, and great looking games, for the foreseeable future of the wii-u.

Edited by GCD, 26 November 2013 - 08:28 AM.

[MorbidGod]

What I get from all this is what we all ready know. It's going to take some work to take full control of the CPU fully.

[NintendoReport]

What I get from all this is what we all ready know. It's going to take some work to take full control of the CPU fully.

I agree. Good to see you here bro

[Goodtwin]

At least we finnally know for sure.  It truly is just a Tri core Broadway shrunk and over clocked with more cache.  Basically little more than ten times the power of the Gekko that powered the Gamecube, or six times the power of the Broadway that powered the Wii.  Should be just fine for most games.

[cupoftea]

look guys deny all you like you all rubbed your privates talking shjt about power 7 cpus 

 

whilst WIIBOY101 TOLD ALL OF YOU ""HOW LONG AGO"" EXACTLY WHAT WIIU CPU WAS GIVE CREDIT TO A GUY WHO DESERVES IT 

 

ACTING OBTUSE WHEN THE GUY WAS RIGHT YEARS AGO SAYS MORE ABOUT YOU THAN HIM YOU HAD A BRAIN BOX OF A GUY GIVING YOU THE INFO BUT ALAS NO ONLY MONGS ARE ALLOWED TO EXPRESS THERE TOUGHTS LOL

 

the cpu is what wiiboy said it was YET YOUR STILL SOING IT PRTENDING WIIBOY NEVER TOLD YA WEN CLEARLY HE DID 

 

GROW UP SERIOUSLY GROW THE F**K UP

 

its 3 inproved broadways together @ 45nm with cutting edge IBM EDRAM as catch EXACTLY AS DISCRIBED BY WIIBOY101 ADMIT THIS...

 

each core vs a jaguar utterly owns look at ARM there 4 stage cores only got as far as a cpl of hundreb mhz expresso is hitting almost 1.3 ghz 

 

 

that is by far by a huge amount the fastest out of order 4 stage cpu EVER MADE 

At least we finnally know for sure.  It truly is just a Tri core Broadway shrunk and over clocked with more cache.  Basically little more than ten times the power of the Gekko that powered the Gamecube, or six times the power of the Broadway that powered the Wii.  Should be just fine for most games.

basic math and commonsense prove this FANTASIST WRONG 

 

3MB LEVEL 2 CATCH IS 12 X THE BROADWAY NOT 6 

 

EDRAM LEVEL 2 CATCH PER CORE SO CLOCK SPEED VS BROADWAY X HOW MANY CORES X 2 FOR EDRAM AS IBM CLEARLY STATED AS CATCH ITS 2X BANDWIDTH OF SRAM 

 

THATS 10 X BANDWIDTH OF BROADWAY 

 

12X THE CATCH 10 X THE BROADWAY BANDWIDTH (clearly not 6) 

 

we have tri core vs single core 

 

we have ibm SMP tech 

 

we have custom MCM AND CUSTOM BUSES AND DIRECT LINK TO BOTH EDRAM OF GPU AND MAIN RAM 

 

we have a die shrink to 45nm from 90nm 

 

clearly 10 to 12 x the broadway cpu 

 

BASIC COUNTING ABILITYS LIKE A 5 YEAR OLD CHILD GO ALONG WAY 

 

6 X BROADWAY NO DUDE NOT AT ALL 

 

BY THE WAY A BROADWAY @ 729MHZ UTTERLY DESTROYS A ATOM AT 1.6MHZ 

 

SO IMAGINE EXPRESSOs real world performance and the up to 50x boost in power wen coding at assemly level