Super Smash Bros. 4 Discussion Thread
#521
Posted 19 July 2012 - 11:46 AM
1. Noobs- Dialga/Palkia (Wii U/ 3DS), Louie, Prince Fluff, Vatti (3DS), Ghirahim (Wii U), King K. Rool and Dark Kongs (Wii U), Shadow and Team Chaotix (3DS), Waluigi, and Layton, Luke, and Don Paolo.
2. New Items- All other items from Pokemon (and make Pokeball variations), Wooden Shield (TLoZ), Rainbow Star (SMG1+2), and Parasol (Kirby)
3. Returns- Roy, Mewtwo, and Pichu (but put him with Pikachu like Zelda/Shiek)
4. Veterans- All but Pikachu (solo, as explained above), Jigglypuff(replace with Wigglytuff), and Toon Link (Replaced by Vatti/Ghirahim)
5. Final Smash Form- Create a certain pattern on the touch pad to preform a Final Smash, no patterns are alike and cannot be shared (that means only one pattern creates that characters Final Smash)
6. New Assists- Gen 5 Pkmn, Tetris blocks (which flatten your opponent but can be avoided more easily than Snorlaxes), Otacon (Much like Resetti but is only activated by Snake), Lumas (eat items that appear and work as bumper items that can move freely), Count Bleck (replaces clock but also causes continous damadge like the flower stick), and Petey (makes all surfaces slippery so that no one can aim a good ground attack; head can be used as platform by only playing as Bowser, Peach, Mario, Luigi, Yoshi, Wario, or Waluigi)
#522
Posted 26 July 2012 - 06:01 PM
by pressing the special button. They should use the touch screen for something like
in-game stats, or use the smash attack by sliding your thumb, or both.
#523
Posted 31 July 2012 - 03:25 PM
#524
Posted 06 August 2012 - 09:47 AM
So I get off stage right and drop the mic
Walk up to these hot chicks and im all like
"Sup ladies, my names Slim Shady.
I'm the lead singer in D12 baby"
#525
Posted 07 August 2012 - 09:55 AM
#526
Posted 09 August 2012 - 11:51 PM
Super Mario
Mario
Luigi
Peach
Bowser
Bowser jr. *
Waluigi *
Geno*
Legend of Zelda
Link
Zelda/Sheik
Ganondorf
Skull Kid *
Young Link (with masks)*
Pokémon
Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Pokémon Trainer
Mewtwo~
Dk
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
Dixie Kong*
King K. Rool*
Star Fox
Fox
Falco
Wolf (new moveset)
Krystal*
Kirby
Kirby
King Dedede
Metaknight
Fire Emblem
Marth
Roy~
Ike
Metriod
Samus
Ridley*
F-zero
Captain Falcon
Samurai Goroh*
Kid Icarus
Pit
Medusa*
Earthbound
Ness
Lucas
Other Nintendo Characters
Po and Nana (Ice Climbers)
Yoshi (Yoshi Land)
Mr. Game and Watch (Game and Watch)
Wario (Game and Wario)
R.O.B. (NES accessory)
Captain Olimar (Pikmin)
Little Mac (Punch Out)*
3rd Party
Solid Snake (Metal Gear/Konami)
Sonic (Sonic the Hedgehog/Sega)
Megaman (Megaman/Capcom)*
Pacman (Pacman/Namaco)*
* new fighter
~ returning figher from melee
Edited by Taco Ninja 83, 10 August 2012 - 12:04 AM.
#527
Posted 12 August 2012 - 12:57 PM
#528
Posted 14 August 2012 - 09:45 PM
Geno must survive!
Trophy Cards are classy too! LOLZIGZAGOON
#529
Posted 15 August 2012 - 10:28 PM
Lyn ( Fire Emblem )
Louie ( Pikmin 2 )
Krystal ( Star Fox Adventures )
Daisy ( Mario )
Waliwigi ( Mario )
Bowser Jr. ( Mario )
Donkey Kong Jr. ( Donkey Kong 3 )
Dixie Kong ( Dk country 2 )
Little Mac ( Punch out )
Mach Rider ( Mach Rider )
Isaac ( Golden sun )
Weavel ( Metroid Prime Hunters )
Palutena ( Kid icarus )
Poliwhirl ( Pokemon )
Samurai Gohroh ( F-zero )
Ryu ( Street Fighter )
Pac-Man ( Pac-Man )
#530
Posted 21 August 2012 - 07:38 AM
#531
Posted 25 August 2012 - 11:00 AM
Whaaaaaaaaaaat?? WHAT DID YOU SAY?? MY EYES... ARE BURNIIIIIIING!!!! GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!Im not really a smash bros lover, its ok but to me its an obvious ip and id rather buy something fresh. I cant see how they can push it forwards other than new graphics, online etc, all i can see is nintendo using it to lure people into buying there games by offering smash bros playable charachters as downloadable rewards! As well as DLC of cause! They cud probably make it free to play and charge for every upgrade! And in all fairness, why not
Ah sorry for that, it's just that I've never seen someone that doesn't like SSB.
#532
Posted 25 August 2012 - 01:05 PM
#533
Posted 04 September 2012 - 07:20 PM
Isaac, Comprehensive moveset, Smash 4. He handles a tad different to the other fighters, and whether or not this is good or bad will come down to the player. Fairly nimble, but not overly strong. Strikes a good balance in both midair and ground based combat.
All of Isaac's Special moves behave differently on the ground and in the air, and can be charged. While charging a Special move in the air, Isaac will fall somewhat slowly, which gives him a fighting advantage when it comes to recovery. More on that below.
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JAB
Jab-
A: Quick horizontal slash. It doesn't have much reach, but it's certainly fast.
~A: Upper slash. This has far better reach and easily sets up for basic combos.
~~A (RAPID): Rapid stabs, akin to Link in SSB64.
TILTS
Ftilt-
A: Knees forwards. Low starting lag and endlag.
Dtilt-
A: Makes a quick slice along the ground.
Utilt-
A: Upward stab, very useful for juggling the opponent.
DASH
Dashing-
A: An upper slash very similar to Marth, but slightly faster and weaker.
SMASHES
Fsmash-
A: Powerful bottom-to-top upper slash, sending foes both away and skyward. A comfortable speed with a fair amount of lag, this is a great option for finishing and opponent.
Dsmash-
A: Sweep kicks in a full circle, blasting foes into the distance. Has a sweetspot, where hitting with Isaac's feet during the kick knocks the target directly into the ground.
Usmash-
A: Two stage attack, consisting of an overhead back-to-front slash and then a lunge to followup.
AIR
Nair-
A: Sex kick. Like all the rest, it's stronger when first used, and becomes weaker during the timeframe it's being used.
Fair-
A: Bottom-to-top slash. Nothing really special about it, it's fast and weak, and sets up for basic combos.
Bair-
A: Kicks backwards, akin to Samus. Arguably his best killing move, because it hits hard and fast with little endlag.
Uair-
A: Quick jab upwards. Decent power behind it, but has quite a lot of endlag.
Dair-
A: Slashes beneath in a fashion to Marth. Always sends the foe down, but has varying levels of power depending on how close they are to Isaac himself. High speed, great power and low endlag, but only ever works when sending an opponent DIRECTLY down.
SPECIAL
Neutral B-
B: Fire. Launches a fast moving fiery projecticle. Able to be fired somewhat rapidly in succession, much like Falco's blaster.
~B, Charge Level 2: Fireball. Launches several balls of flame in a shotgun styled spread. Great for keepaway and mindgaming a foe.
~~B, Charge Level 3: Inferno. Launches a mass of embers and fire to converge on a foe. Not only do they spread like 'Fireball', but can then be controlled and sent anywhere with the control stick, akin to 'PK Thunder' in a larger quantity.
B in air: Blast. Isaac surrounds himself in a damaging but very brief explosion.
~B in air, Charge Level 2: Nova. Isaac creates one explosion and then several more. Deals more hits more damage.
~~B in air, Charge Level 3: Supernova. Isaac creats a grand and booming red blast, covering quite a large area from around him. Deals multiple hits, similar to a Smart bomb, without the incredible finish.
Side B-
B: Ice. Isaac extends his free hand outwards and fires a single, incredibly fast moving shard of ice across the screen.
~B, Charge Level 2: Ice Horn. Isaac extends his free hand outwards and charges a cold aura for a moment, before firing a large shard of ice across the screen, before exploding into dust.
~~B, Charge Level 3: Ice Missile. Isaac extends his free hand and charges a cold aura, before firing a continuous stream of powerful ice shards. Has a chance to freeze the opponent.
B in air: Douse. Isaac slashes backwards, a quick blast of water propelling him forward.
~B in air, Charge Level 2: Drench. Isaac slashes backwards, a continuous stream of propelling him forward. Great for horizontal recovery.
~~B in air, Charge Level 3: Deluge. Isaac slashes backwards, an intense, raging flood of water leaving his sword. Unlike the other charge levels, this is used as a means of attack, dealing multiple hits and hindering recovery chances.
Up B-
B: Slash. Performs an upper slash, sword glowing a faint purple. The slash itself doesn't deal damage, but instead has a fairly powerful 'wind' effect to push foes away.
~B, Charge Level 2: Wind Slash. Performs a faster, stronger upper slash, the sword glowing a much brighter purple. Deals multiple hits and draws in foes with a much more powerful 'wind' effect. However, it doesn't have a lot of knockback, and needs to be used for dealing damage.
~~B, Charge Level 3: Sonic Slash. Performs an extremely fast, extremely powerful upper slash, the sword glowing an immense purple. Deals multiple hits, the last sending foes up and away. To make this so worthwhile, though, a 'wind' effect draws in almost everything or everything, from seemingly ridiculous distances.
B in air: Whirlwind. Performs a spin attack with his sword, gaining distance somewhat slowly. Has a 'wind' effect to draw in foes, but it's hard to notice.
~B in air, Charge Level 2: Tornado. Performs a faster spin attack that lasts longer, a strong storm forming around Isaac as he ascends. Features a 'wind' to draw in foes, which is much more practical than the earlier charge.
~~B in air, Charge Level 3: Tempest. Performs a long lasting, powerful spin attack, moving upwards a great vertical distance. Isaac surrounds himself in a true storm, a 'wind' effect drawing in opponents to get stirred up by the blade's little hurricane.
Down B-
B: Gaia. Isaac stabs his sword into the ground, a small burst of rocks spurting up and then raining down.
~B, Charge Level 2: Mother Gaia. Isaac stabs his sword into the ground, spurting up larger rocks in much more volume to rain down to the ground.
~~B, Charge Level 3: Grand Gaia. Isaac stabs the ground as usual, creating a violent tremor that digs oppoents into the ground, only to have massive boulders burst up and come crashing down moments later.
B in air: Spire. Isaac plummets to the ground in a similar fashion to a Falcon Kick, bringing a small rock spire from the ceiling when he lands.
~B in air, Charge Level 2: Clay Spire. Isaac plummets to the ground faster and harder, bringing down three rock spires when he lands.
~~B in air, Charge Level 3: Stone Spire. Isaac rockets down to earth, creating a tremor when he lands and bringing down five rock spires to slam into the enemy.
FINAL SMASH
Smash Ball acquired-
B: Ragnarok. In a single downward slash, Isaac unleashes the height of his control of Psynergy, bringing down a giant sword of orange energy to come crashing into opponents. The sword always comes in at an angle that makes it sweep as much air and ground as possible, and as soon as it reaches a certain point of its descent, it explodes. When hitting with Isaac's sword slash itself, foes will take a further 30% of damage and be utterly helpless against the forthcoming attack.
GRAB AND THROW
Grab-
Z/R+A/L+A/RZ/LZ: Grips opponent firmly in place, holding the sword by his side.
Pummel-
A: Headbutts the opponent.
Fthrow-
Input: Blasts opponent away in fiery Mars Psynergy.
Bthrow-
Input: Quickly circles the opponent and blasts them away with a torrent of Mercury Psynergy.
Uthrow-
Input: Hurls opponent upwards and slashes them, striking them with Jupiter Psynergy lightning.
Dthrow-
Input: Slams opponent into the dirt in a show of stone and Venus Psynergy.
#534
Posted 06 September 2012 - 01:10 PM
Let's take it back to Brawl. You guys remember the character selection screen of that game, right? You notice how every column consists of 4 characters from the same series in one column? For example: The first column contained Mario, Luigi, Peach and Bowser. Column 3 contained Link, Zelda/Sheik, Ganondorf and Toon Link. And one column contained Pikachu, Pokemon Trainer, Lucario and Jigglypuff. Anyways, what I'm trying to say is that, in the next Smash Brothers, I hope they do that as well with a column containing 4 Sonic characters. If they do that, I will be discussing the three new Sonic characters that I hope they put in this game and what they're Final Smashes could possibly be.
#1. Shadow the Hedgehog
We all saw this coming in my list. I actually wouldn't be surprised if they did put Shadow in this game. He's only the most requested Sonic character to be in the next Smash Bros. ever since Sonic appeared in Brawl. Shadow being the "Ultimate Life Form" and all, will be a very fit choice for this game. His fighting style would seem to be fun and enjoyable to play around with. For Shadow, his Final Smash will most likely be the "Chaos Blast."
#2. Knuckles the Echidna
Knuckles, I think, has a pretty big chance of being included in this game. Some people request him. Some don't. But in this case, I am. Knuckles should definitely be in this game simply because Knuckles is pretty much born to fight. His fighting style would be plain and simple. Punch, punch and punch some more. I would say his best recovery would be gliding, what he usually does throughout the Sonic games. I don't have too much of an idea of what his Final Smash might be. But if anything, I will just say maybe his "Thunder Arrow" attack from Sonic Adventure 2.
#3. Blaze the Cat
I'm not going to lie here. I am kind of doubting they will put Blaze in this game, but this is called a "Wish List" for a reason. Ever since Blaze's debut in Sonic Rush, she turned out to be a pretty cool and likable character. She's basically Sonic's counterpart in another dimension. Since Blaze is almost as fast as Sonic, I think she would be a very fun character to play as, and a great choice for this game. Like I said before, she is almost as fast as Sonic, she seems to have pretty cool moves from what I see in the Sonic games, plus, she can freaking control fire! (Hence the name: "Blaze"). I don't know about you guys, but I say she would be a perfect fit for this game. She IS (in my opinion) pretty much one of the only useful female Sonic characters, if not, then THE most useful and I think she deserves some more recognition. Since there isn't much to think of for Blaze's Final Smash, I will just go with her super form known as "Burning Blaze." What I imagine it would be is basically a fire version of "Super Sonic."
So there's my wish list. I hope most of you will agree with these choices, but if not then show me some feedback! Tell me what you think of these choices, if you agree or disagree. I know many people will tell me something like "What about Tails?" Well to be perfectly honest, I can't see Tails fighting in this game. I just don't see him in a fighting game like this, or what his moves would be. Anyways, thanks for reading my wish list if you did take the time to read the whole thing.
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#535
Posted 06 September 2012 - 02:51 PM
One third party character per third party. Namaco might get two or three only because the are helping Nintendo with the game. If Sega gets another caharacter it wouldn't be a Sonic character.There seems to be a lot of new characters that will be coming to the next Smash Brothers, and it seems that every smasher out there is already making character wish lists. Since I am a huge Smash Bros. fan, and a huge Sonic nerd, I have decided that I will only talk about the Sonic characters that I hope to be in this game.
Let's take it back to Brawl. You guys remember the character selection screen of that game, right? You notice how every column consists of 4 characters from the same series in one column? For example: The first column contained Mario, Luigi, Peach and Bowser. Column 3 contained Link, Zelda/Sheik, Ganondorf and Toon Link. And one column contained Pikachu, Pokemon Trainer, Lucario and Jigglypuff. Anyways, what I'm trying to say is that, in the next Smash Brothers, I hope they do that as well with a column containing 4 Sonic characters. If they do that, I will be discussing the three new Sonic characters that I hope they put in this game and what they're Final Smashes could possibly be.
#1. Shadow the Hedgehog
We all saw this coming in my list. I actually wouldn't be surprised if they did put Shadow in this game. He's only the most requested Sonic character to be in the next Smash Bros. ever since Sonic appeared in Brawl. Shadow being the "Ultimate Life Form" and all, will be a very fit choice for this game. His fighting style would seem to be fun and enjoyable to play around with. For Shadow, his Final Smash will most likely be the "Chaos Blast."
#2. Knuckles the Echidna
Knuckles, I think, has a pretty big chance of being included in this game. Some people request him. Some don't. But in this case, I am. Knuckles should definitely be in this game simply because Knuckles is pretty much born to fight. His fighting style would be plain and simple. Punch, punch and punch some more. I would say his best recovery would be gliding, what he usually does throughout the Sonic games. I don't have too much of an idea of what his Final Smash might be. But if anything, I will just say maybe his "Thunder Arrow" attack from Sonic Adventure 2.
#3. Blaze the Cat
I'm not going to lie here. I am kind of doubting they will put Blaze in this game, but this is called a "Wish List" for a reason. Ever since Blaze's debut in Sonic Rush, she turned out to be a pretty cool and likable character. She's basically Sonic's counterpart in another dimension. Since Blaze is almost as fast as Sonic, I think she would be a very fun character to play as, and a great choice for this game. Like I said before, she is almost as fast as Sonic, she seems to have pretty cool moves from what I see in the Sonic games, plus, she can freaking control fire! (Hence the name: "Blaze"). I don't know about you guys, but I say she would be a perfect fit for this game. She IS (in my opinion) pretty much one of the only useful female Sonic characters, if not, then THE most useful and I think she deserves some more recognition. Since there isn't much to think of for Blaze's Final Smash, I will just go with her super form known as "Burning Blaze." What I imagine it would be is basically a fire version of "Super Sonic."
So there's my wish list. I hope most of you will agree with these choices, but if not then show me some feedback! Tell me what you think of these choices, if you agree or disagree. I know many people will tell me something like "What about Tails?" Well to be perfectly honest, I can't see Tails fighting in this game. I just don't see him in a fighting game like this, or what his moves would be. Anyways, thanks for reading my wish list if you did take the time to read the whole thing.
#536
Posted 09 September 2012 - 01:24 AM
There, I called it, you saw it here first guys.
NNID : TomBollandLTD
need. more. online. games.
#537
Posted 12 September 2012 - 12:04 PM
Weegee with poltergust 5000.
I support this.
Or if they aren't going to give us a meme, I'd love to see Luigi implement more characteristics from his own game (Luigi's Mansion)
#538
Posted 13 September 2012 - 07:43 AM
It's in Japanese however, so unless someone can translate, we'll probably never know.
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