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[Coller23]

I want Travis Touchdown in even tho he has no chance of getting in.

[D.player]

I think we'll see Megaman in SSB4, He's surely an obvious choice. But no other 3rd party characters, 3 is enough, it will no longer be the "Nintendo game".

I also have an idea for a new mode; Kill limit mode. I figured that Stock mathces have a kill limit really, 4 people with 5 lives each, the most kills anyone can get is 15. Think about it, if you had a kill limit set at 10 kills, it will create competition and it will be harder to win than other modes. And I feel (unlike stock mode) that it give everyone a fairer shout at winning the matches, as they will be in it the whole time.

Oh my god
YES
it will completely eliminate campers
but it may create thieves
this could probably be solved by an upgraded points system instead of ordinary kills

[Sirralart SuperDragon]

I think we'll see Megaman in SSB4, He's surely an obvious choice. But no other 3rd party characters, 3 is enough, it will no longer be the "Nintendo game".

I also have an idea for a new mode; Kill limit mode. I figured that Stock mathces have a kill limit really, 4 people with 5 lives each, the most kills anyone can get is 15. Think about it, if you had a kill limit set at 10 kills, it will create competition and it will be harder to win than other modes. And I feel (unlike stock mode) that it give everyone a fairer shout at winning the matches, as they will be in it the whole time.

Ummm...not a bad idea at all! I'd love it for sure!

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By the way...

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Have you by chance read my dramatically long explaination of the Three Final Smash System that most everyone seemed to get confused over? It's really interesting. It's somewhere at the beginning of this topic.

[Happy Monk]

"Ummm...not a bad idea at all! I'd love it for sure!

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By the way...

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Have you by chance read my dramatically long explaination of the Three Final Smash System that most everyone seemed to get confused over? It's really interesting. It's somewhere at the beginning of this topic."


I have not...
sorry, replying went wrong!

Edited by Happy Monk, 16 June 2011 - 10:17 AM.

[Sirralart SuperDragon]

Oh my god
YES
it will completely eliminate campers
but it may create thieves
this could probably be solved by an upgraded points system instead of ordinary kills

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Dude...

I LOVE your Zero animation!!!

[D.player]

(O_O)

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Dude...

I LOVE your Zero animation!!!

Favorite game of all time + great gif = happy me

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[Sirralart SuperDragon]

Favorite game of all time + great gif = happy me

Effin' nice! **()**

That's SO AWESHUM SAWCE!!!

[Sirralart SuperDragon]

Favorite game of all time + great gif = happy me

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Have YOU read my dramatically long explaination of the Three Final Smash System that confused everyone? It's at the beginning of this topic.

[Sirralart SuperDragon]

I want Travis Touchdown in even tho he has no chance of getting in.

Mr.Touchdown indeed has a chance of getting in. Remember years ago around the time speculation about the roster of SSBB was all over the net? Nintendo stated that (this may not be an accurate statement, but it sorta went like this) "Any character that has appeared on an Nintendo platform in anyway, form, or fashion has a shot of making the roster."

*cough* That also includes Cloud *cough* Strife *cough* *cough* Game Boy Advanced *cough*

Edited by Sirralart RCP120, 16 June 2011 - 10:52 AM.

[Happy Monk]

I've read it now, and I disagree with it for one reason, it makes it too complicated. It's not a 1 0n 1 fighter like Street Fighter, it's a party game (it always has been and always will be). It could make interesting gameplay mechanics, for other games.

Anywho, characters that need to be in the next one are:

1. Ridley (they smallinized charizard, why not ridley?)
2. Little Mac
3. Dark Samus
4. Waluigi
5. Micaiah or Hector
6. Paper Mario
7. Isaac
8. Zoroark
9. Mii
10. Animal Crossing lad or Lass
11. Mega Man
12. TINGLE!!!!!!!!!!!

[D.player]

I suggest throwing in 3 Final Smashes instead of one.

The Street Fighter characters are know for having MANY signature Super Moves, so lets assume that the Nintendo characters will also have more Super Moves this time around. Working off this idea will open up MANY new Final Smash ideas for ALL the fighters!!!

We will assume that the 3 Final Smash system will work like the 3 Super Move system works in Street Fighter III: Third Strike. At the character select menu, players will have the choice of selecting one of three Final Smashes. Depending on which Final Smash is selected will result in certain conditions for breaking the Smash Ball.

Lets take the Street Fighter character Ryu for example:

Final Smash 1: Shinkuu Hadouken - This will be Ryu's most basic and WEAKEST Final Smash. It travels long distance and it's easy to deal damage to opponents at a distance, BUT lets say it only does a maximum of 50-55% damage if it FULLY connects. HERE'S THE TWIST!!! For picking his "weaker" Final Smash, this allows Ryu to break the Smash Ball more easily than normal if he were to pick say a "stronger" Final Smash.

Final Smash 2: Shinkuu Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku - This is Ryu's Super Move that you see often in Capcom cross over games. This Final Smash isn't as easy to hit with, but the damage is MUCH greater than his first Final Smash; probably 70-85% if it FULLY connects. This move works great on opponents that have surrounded you instead of having to space yourself away from your opponents like his Shinkuu Hadouken. This move of course hits multiple opponents and also sucks in opponents if they are within a certain distance. I can see enemies being swarmed with lightning as Ryu spins (Ryu's element is lightning for those of you that didn't know. Ken's element is Fire). This move sends opponents flying which ever way...rag doll physics. This move sounds quite powerful, no? HERE'S THE NEXT TWIST!!! Choosing THIS Final Smash will make it a little harder for Ryu to break the Smash Ball!!! Do you see where I'm going with this? ()

Final Smash 3: Shin Shouryuuken - This move is OBVIOUSLY Ryu's STRONGEST FINAL SMASH!!! The damage is insane!!!! Probably 105-150%...pretty much guaranteeing a K.O. if you land it. Landing it though is EXTREMELY DIFFICULT!!! Your opponent must be at CLOSE RANGE!!! IN YOUR FACE!!! They'd have to be pretty stupid to get caught by this, but if you're a skilled SSB Ryu player...you can find ways of connecting with this DEADLY FINAL SMASH!!! Also, this move is made to hit only one opponent (Like Link's Tri Force Slash) BUT if two or three opponents happen to be right in front of you...then they will also take damage from the move. Breaking the Smash Ball takes a while with this Final Smash selected.

There you have it. That's my idea. Each character will have 3 Final Smashes set in this type of way: A long distance move(A projectile of some sorts or a dash type move that only connects it you touch an opponent), a move for hitting opponents that have surrounded you, and a nearly instant K.O. move that's VERY HARD to land and EASY to waste. How about more TRANSFORMATION type final smashes like Sonic turning into Super Sonic? Can you imagine Link turning into Fierce Deity Link?

The Final Smashes don't necessarily have to be in that order, but ALL characters will have 3 Final Smashes, and each one will have a sort of handicap for breaking the Smash Ball depending on which Final Smash you've selected.

What do you think???

i like this
like b and down for the close range, b for he far, and i don't know maybe b and z for the heavy??

Edited by D.player, 16 June 2011 - 10:55 AM.

[Sirralart SuperDragon]

i like this
like b and down for the close range, b for he far, and i don't know maybe b and z for the heavy??

Keep in mind...

I said,"FIGHTERS CAN ONLY CHOOSE ONE (I SAID ONE AS IN NUMBER 1) FINAL SMASH AT THE CHARACTER SELECT SCREEN.

Many people seemed to over look that part of my idea. I guess they read it to quickly or something.

I'd never suggest that the fighters would have access to all three of their Final Smashes in one match.

Again, they can only choose 1 of the 3 Final Smashes before the match begins...just like Street Fighter.

Edited by Sirralart RCP120, 16 June 2011 - 11:01 AM.

[GwJumpman]

I want a Paper Mario fighter. But what I want most are alternate costumes that are characters that aren't popular enough for their own fighter, but still deserve some showtime. I'd love a Roy costume on Marth for instance.

[Sirralart SuperDragon]

I've read it now, and I disagree with it for one reason, it makes it too complicated. It's not a 1 0n 1 fighter like Street Fighter, it's a party game (it always has been and always will be). It could make interesting gameplay mechanics, for other games.

Anywho, characters that need to be in the next one are:

1. Ridley (they smallinized charizard, why not ridley?)
2. Little Mac
3. Dark Samus
4. Waluigi
5. Micaiah or Hector
6. Paper Mario
7. Isaac
8. Zoroark
9. Mii
10. Animal Crossing lad or Lass
11. Mega Man
12. TINGLE!!!!!!!!!!!

You're response is VERY similar to someone else that had that same idea. I responded to them with this statement:

"I don't think it would be too complicated. The fighters wouldn't have access to ALL three of their Final Smashes in one match. They'd have to choose just one before the match begins. Adding more to the fighting aspect of game couldn't possibly HURT the game overall could it? I think it would allow a player, that's WILLING to experiment more with his or her MAIN character(s), to learn to fight three ways because of the three Final Smash system. This would make the more competitive player happy I think. It'd be pretty hard to make Smash Bros. a complicated game because it isn't."

i like this
like b and down for the close range, b for he far, and i don't know maybe b and z for the heavy??

Which part did you like most about this idea?

Edited by AMAC, 18 June 2011 - 07:35 AM.

[kiwi_kewn]

hmmm... This topic is kind of making me depressed~

Yes, yes. i know that the smash brothers roster is a big thing for most people, but honestly, there is so much more to discuss.

first of all, maybe we should have an entire topic for just the roster~ considering this is one of the hotter topics.

and secondly, has anyone thought about the hardware at all?

we have ourselves this new and expensive controler that will be used most likely, but remember, there is probably only going to be support for one controler per consol (I Know the wii u will be able to support more, but I think the game will use only one like the console will come with) so we have ourselves one super controler, and possibly some other controlers (the game will most likely be compatible with all the controlers the brawl was compatible with, minus the gamecube controler) so I think we will either see some new mode (or modes) that will involve either just the new controler, or the new controler and other wii controlers. i have no clue, but im expecting this for sure.

annother thing we need to keep in mind. is the fact that there will be the 3ds version, and it will be compatible with the wii u version somehow. i have the idea that the 3ds version will probably

oops~ hit post for some reason XD. but anywho~ the 3ds version will probably be like brawl. I don't mean EXACTLY like it, what i saying is in terms of capasity, it will be like brawl, maybe minuse some modes. I don't know. but with the connectivity, im expecting a simple hook up to the wii u, and join in the game from your 3ds. maybe some information transfer and things like that. but I don't want the 3ds version to depend on the wii u version and vice versa.

so in the end. what im saying is that there will be a lot of new hardware and new concepts thrown in here. and they all will be very unique. so why are we talking about things in game?! why not discuse some of the possibilities with this new hardware!

[Limelight788]

[quote name='"Hamez"]There were only two in brawl... if they were gone there would still be a huge selection of characters' date=' and still a whole lot to include in the next game.[/quote']I wouldn't exactly call "33" huge, thought it is still a lot. That said, I'm willing to trade third-party characters to guarantee King K. Rool, Ray MK III, and Saki Amamiya.[quote name='"Sirralart RCP120"]I think the reason some people want K.Rool in is because the simple fact that he's THE MAIN boss in the Donkey Kong series. Just like Dedede is for the Kirby series. [/quote]We also want him because Donkey Kong deserves a third rep and that he has the potential to be a very unique character.[quote name='"Sirralart RCP120"]I don't think Ryu Hyabusa is TOO unlikely. He's kinda in the same boat as Solid Snake...the Ninja Gaiden series began on the original Nes just like Metal Gear. I think the hero of Ninja Gaiden would feel right at home with his OLD SCHOOL friends. It'd be kinda like a BIG REUNION!!![/quote]The problem keeping from being included is that he is not a popular request (At least not right now) and that he's third-party and with the exception of Sonic' date=' Snake' date=' and Mega Man, they have a lot of red tapes to cross before they can be considered for SSB4. There's no way to tell whenever or not we'll ever get over three third-party character, so I'm not keeping my hope up for him.[quote="Sirralart RCP120"'']Mr.Touchdown indeed has a chance of getting in. Remember years ago around the time speculation about the roster of SSBB was all over the net? Nintendo stated that (this may not be an accurate statement, but it sorta went like this) "Any character that has appeared on an Nintendo platform in anyway, form, or fashion has a shot of making the roster."

*cough* That also includes Cloud *cough* Strife *cough* *cough* Game Boy Advanced *cough*[/quote]There are four requirements:

- Must have move set potentials.
- Must have originated in video games.
- Must have appeared on a Nintendo console once.
- Must not be hated.

Travis Touchdown fits all of these, so you're right, he does have a chance.

He's still very unlikely. Suda may want him in, but that doesn't mean we're going to see him nor do we know if he'll actually ask Nintendo to get Travis Touchdown in SSB4. Also consider that there will probably be only three or four third-party characters in the game. Three will be slated for Sonic, Snake, and Mega Man. The fourth one, which we don't know if we'll get, will have a lot of potential candidates and Travis Touchdown has a lot of competition if he's going to get in. Unfortunately, he's relatively unpopular as his games haven't sold much and he isn't even Ubisoft's mascot, so don't get your hopes up for him.

[D.player]

Which part did you like most about this idea?

I like the adaptability, like some smashes are outright useless against some characters/stages (Dk on any big stage as an example)

[Sirralart SuperDragon]

I like the adaptability, like some smashes are outright useless against some characters/stages (Dk on any big stage as an example)

Yes, SO true!

[Limelight788]

I'd like to hear your opinion on what you think are the ten most likely newcomers for Super Smash Bros. 4.

My list is at followed:
10. Saki Amamiya
9. 5th Pokemon Rep
8. King K. Rool
7. Takamaru
6. Mega Man
5. Medusa
4. Ridley
3. Bowser Jr./Toad/Paper Mario
2. Little Mac
1. Zoroark/Victini

Explanation is in here.

[Hardcore Brawler]

mine (Nintendo's characters)

10 - Raymond Bryce (Disaster: Day of Crisis)
9 - Glass Joe
8 -A Bounty Hunter from Metroid Prime 3
7 - Anyone from Batallion Wars/Advance Wars
6 - Louie (Pikmin)
5 - The Armadillo from "The Rolling Western"
4 - King K Rool
3 - Samurai Goroh (F-Zero deserve even more)
2 - Little Mac
1 - Waluigi

if there was only one character deserve to be in the next game this character will be Waluigi for sure

Edited by Hardcore Brawler, 18 June 2011 - 09:45 AM.