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#313341 The Great Splatoon Status Debate.

Posted by Jenni on 25 May 2015 - 05:38 PM

They are not part of the purchase because they are not on the disc or in the bundled files if you buy it digitally. It's that simple.

 

These new maps and modes aren't coming on launch day. They're coming some time afterwards. Even if they were, and you had to download an update in order to play online, and this update included those, they are still not on the disc, and not bundled in the digital release, therefore they are not part of what you purchased.

 

I didn't say the single player didn't matter. What I said was that the multiplayer is the main focus, and it is. That some people are buying it for the single player does not change that fact. From its original announcement to now the multiplayer has been what they've advertised it on more than anything. It's what the initial gameplay has been about. As it is the main focus, there should be plenty of content for it, but there is not. There are only 5 maps and 2 game modes, one of which is locked until enough people reach level 10.
 

Halo in particular is not advertised and sold most on its multiplayer. They focus on the single player and multiplayer in equal measure, and cover both of them extensively. Whether or not other games focus more on single player or multiplayer does not matter. Call of Duty certainly includes many more maps and game modes than Splatoon does on launch, and its focus, like Splatoon's, is its multiplayer.

 

Throughout the entire discussion I have remained civil and not once resorted to name calling or otherwise insulting anyone. I would appreciate it if you did the same.




#313338 The Great Splatoon Status Debate.

Posted by Jenni on 25 May 2015 - 04:45 PM

1. Maybe they're releasing it now because there's no other games coming out for the WIi U now, splatoon can be released now to fill in that gap of no games.

2. In the UK Mario Kart 8 cost £40 at launch, Splatoon costs £25 from certain retailers and £40 for the game, the inkling amiibo and a hat.

1. It still doesn't make it okay to release it with so little content for their main mode, and yet charge the same price as other games that include much more.

2. I'm speaking from the perspective of someone that lives in the USA. Here Mario Kart 8 was $50 to $60, as is Splatoon. I'm going by the price that Nintendo themselves have set, and not any discounted price that a particular retailer is putting it up for.

Well, I'm jumping in to just add ONE thing, because personally This argument seems to be going around in circles/Feedback loops.

 

They had a year to develop it, most likely because(If someone with actual knowledge of the dev cycle can find evidence) This is the EAD Team who usually works on Mario. If I had to venture a guess, Nintendo's looked at sales data and noticed that the 3DS only started selling at a decent pace due to the double bombs of MK7 and SM3DL. Considering NX might be launching 2016, Nintendo's going to want a Mario Game(3D Mario most likely in some form) to come out at/near launch, and they'll be trying to give ample time on it(Anyone remember Kid Icarus: Uprising and how it was going to be a launch title? Yeah, that was a launch title in the same way me traveling back in time to stop the Assassination of JFK and ending up a year late is stopping it). I could see Iwata/the higher ups going "We want a 3D Mario Game for NX's launch", EAD realizing that they can make an NX 3D Mario in about a year and half(Assuming testing/localization/everything of 3-6 months, they've been on that pace since Galaxy 2 roughly without the HD..issues[Galaxy 2 May 2010, SM3DL November 2011, SM3DW November 2013, Splatoon May 2015]) so they time to fill.

 

It's likely that the plan is once Splatoon finishes development(Which it has because Global testing) about 75% of the team will go to work on Super Mario NeXt while the 25% left will be making/finishing the maps/patches and the like.

 

TL;DR-Iwata has visions of the Future, but thanks to the EADNoda he can help make sure everything goes optimally.

 

Even then, I still don't believe it right to price the game as they have done. As others have pointed out, yes, it's releasing free content later, but I don't feel that, nor what you've mentioned (if it is indeed the case) still makes it alright to charge such a large price for what little it provides in regards to its main mode. If they were advertising the game's single player and multiplayer in equal measure, and had been from Day 1, and were charging $30 to $40 at most, then I don't believe I'd have quite as much an issue.

 

For such a steep asking price I expect much more than a 6 to 8 hour campaign, 5 multiplayer maps, and 2 multiplayer modes, especially when your game's main selling point is the multiplayer itself.




#313327 The Great Splatoon Status Debate.

Posted by Jenni on 25 May 2015 - 03:25 PM

Actually, i know quite a few people who wouldn't be picking this game up if it didn't have SP.  If you don't like the price for what you get, that is on you and i would recommend contacting Nintendo or hitting up MiiVerse. Other than that, there is not really much else to be said.

Again, this is not the point. The point is that their multiplayer focused game offers very, very little for said multiplayer. The mode they have been advertising the game, the game's main selling point, has always been its multiplayer. So it makes no sense at all to charge so much when you're offering so little for the main focus of your game. I don't find it to be acceptable, especially with games both in the past and present offering more, and I even find it to be disrespectful towards the consumer, especially with them asking you to pre-purchase the game all over the demo.




#313325 The Great Splatoon Status Debate.

Posted by Jenni on 25 May 2015 - 03:21 PM

Again, you can't compare Zelda to Splatoon, all Splatoon lacks is maps which can be added any time after it's release, Since they can easily just keep playing the maps they have now. Zelda has a progressive story which CANNOT be paused because the dungeon hasn't been made yet. It completly haults the players experiance and stops them from doing anything else in the game, they will literally not be able to do anything until an update appears, compare that to splatoon where they have an entire single player to go through (again, 8 hours of content right there, a lot more hours if you count amiibo's), aswell as the multiplayer which you can already play without any bugs or glitches or anything broken, just less maps, Which again will get a ton more when time passes, There's no need to not allow players to not play the game because that 6th/7th/8th map isn't complete. Just play it now, give them it later. Heck it even gives them a reason to play splatoon again if they get bored after the first month.

It lacks maps and game modes. That they can be added later is not the point. It does not matter that they can add maps and modes later. What matters is that they're selling a MP focused game with an astonishingly bare bones amount of content to that main mode.

 

I'm not defending any mistakes Hyrule Warriors has made, so please don't take what I've said in such a way.




#313322 The Great Splatoon Status Debate.

Posted by Jenni on 25 May 2015 - 03:18 PM

You keep throwing single player under the bus, like it isn't even in the game.

No I'm not. I've already acknowledged that there is a single player. That isn't the point. The game is focused on, sold on, advertised on the MP first and foremost. That is their main reason for you to pick it up. That is why I find it unacceptable for them to charge $50 to $60 when the main focus of their game offers so little. That there is a single player is good, but it isn't the focus of the game. It's not what they're trying most to sell you on.




#313243 The Great Splatoon Status Debate.

Posted by Jenni on 25 May 2015 - 12:16 AM

Cute. :P Your introduction certainly made me giggle.




#312980 Splatoon Global Testfire

Posted by Jenni on 13 May 2015 - 01:16 PM

im sorry buts its TWIN STICK CASUALS WHO ARE SELFISH-SCARED OFBA LEARNING CURV -JELOUS-DUMB ABOUT CONTROLS 

 

wii remote and plus and 9 axis DESTROY stick aiming witch ENGINEERING FACTwas never designed for aiming and has massive software assistence to help it 

it also makes the camera move robotically and unrealistic and when you aim its like aiming on a flat 2d board COD is soaked in bot aim because of this OUT DATED SILLY AIMING 

 

 

freely aiming about the screen to the MM without that horrible robotic camera motion is a godsent 

 

 

im a god with a wii remote AND TWISTING THE CONTROLLER IS BS its slight tilts only very slight tilts 

 

 

this is how splatoon works left stick motion walking around right stick a camra swing to the left and right 9axis mouse like cross hair controlling ITS EVOLUTION im sick to the bavk teeth with people defending ROBOTIC BLOCKY CONTROLS 

 

 

re4 better with wii remote,twilight princess  better with wii remote,cod better with wii remote,metroid prime 123 better with wii remote,pikmin better with wii remote 

 

 

and pes wii REVOLUTIONIZED SOCCER control the whole team not just one player because of GUESSED YET THE wii remote

 

touch screens can also  do this team control 

 

but 9acis makes mouse aiming with slight tilts possable yes i agree gamepads size vs pro pad is a issue pro pad with 9axis would own 

 

 

freely aiming about the screen with a smooth as silk camera DESTROYS SECOND ANOLOG STICK its not opinion its XYZ FACT

If you cannot speak in a calm, polite, and legible manner then I haven't any inclincation to respond to you further. I'm all for having a discussion, but not when the person I'm speaking to is being rude and obnoxious both in the way they're speaking and what is being said.




#312559 What music are you listening to at the moment?

Posted by Jenni on 02 May 2015 - 03:55 AM

Michael Salvatori, C Paul Johnson, Martin O Donnell - Destiny OST - Deconstruction




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