Rubix87

The memory speed and CPU speed are not known at this time.

Anandtech article is a joke.

that is all.

No one can over praise or under praise it until it has a chance to show its potential.  Silly, unambitious (graphically) games like NSMBU and others don't mean anything.  Ports of current gen games are only going to look like the same game those systems run.

The Power based CPU is a great move, the amount of RAM is great.  the EDRAM is great.  The GPGPU is great.  the integration of everything is great, and the novel way in which games will be controlled is great.

I have seen undeserved criticism so far and a lot of assumptions made, but not cold facts that would lead to a denigration of the system.

So at least those (including developers on the record) who are "over praising" the Wii U can't be any worse than those hating on it based on assumptions... like anandtech with its erroneous info, assumptions and calculations of Wii U performance based off of consoles that aren't the wii( u or engadget (which likes to refer to Wii U's revolutionary, easy to use, and feature packed gamepad as "bizarre" every chance they get.)

I think that if anyone buys a Nintendo console for the technical specs may need to reconsider.  Honestly, I think the Wii U is a next-generation console in every sense of the term "next generation".  As already been stated, you cannot judge this console's potential on the launch games (especially any that are made by EA).  I welcome the PS4/X720, because by then, we will see if the gap between Nintendo and its competitors is as great as people envision.  It would also mean the end of ports of games made for the current generation's older architecture.

Even if there's a noticeable gap, is it worth paying an extra $100-150 for those systems? Not for me.  If i was truly interested in the eye candy, I'd take that money and invest in a high performance graphics card for my PC.  I buy consoles for the games either I can't get on the PC or prefer not to play on the PC.

I also remember a certain console that was constantly bragged by its maker regarding its technical specs.  Between the specs and the Blu Ray drive, it was marketed (and priced) as a console ahead of its time accomplishing things its competitors cannot.  How did that turn out?

I suggest waiting at least a year in a consoles lifetime before we start to fully criticize it. Let's use one of the latest examples; the 3DS.
Remember the amount of doubt people had for that handheld when it first arrived? Weak, lacking good games, launch titles suck, not enough exclusives, NGP (Now known as Vita) would destroy it, online was lame, "Holding out for 3DSi", too expensive for it's worth, incomplete at arrival etc. Do you hear that anymore now? Nintendo I believe has literally addressed almost every complaint the 3DS received around the launch window timeframe.

In short, just wait for the marinade to sink in THEN we start to munch down on it.
(I was hungry when I posted this, lol)

I remember when the 360 came out and everyone waited at midnight for halo3. And it seemed on par with Xbox.

Talk about disappointment...

Then a year later, gears of war showed everyone how awesome the 360 was.

If it was t for madden or king kong, you'd think the 360 was not an upgrade at all. Unfortunately, the wii u has not been final long enough for anyone to know what they were developing with until games were performance  budgeted on the safe side and nearly done.

The wii u has a strange launch. And it's due to nintendos hardware finalizing process. They started with dev kits slightly more powerful than 360. And they built up from there. Even up to e3 this year.

But that's not the real story. Ports are. And all we've seen are ports, an exclusive game that is basically a port of 360 code and rushed to change from one game to a completely different game in about a year, graphically unambiguous first party games, etc.

Give it until e3 next year. Will be a whole lot different.

The hardware is  dry very good. And many levels above 360/ps3.

I'm actually very pleased with it.

...but then again, I'm not the type that gets "OMGOMGOMGOMOGMOMGG" hyped about things to the point where I'm disappointed if it's any less than the next coming of God. :L

Take the Anand "article" with a ton of salt.

Way too many assumptions made regarding speed, gpu, cpu, etc.

The only facts to take from the article are size measurements and power useage.

And then to cement their stance on wii u (nothing's changed with these guys over the last decade), they call it current gen.

The whole assumption based nature of the article is an embarassment to themselves.

Already they've posted a correction. and that will be corrected again if they care about real testing and honesty.

And the fact that the wii u is only using so much power to even do Netflix is a testament to its efficiency. Not lack of power.

The 360 for example helps no one electric bill just running Netflix.

Wait for a real tear down from folks who don't make quick and erroneous assumptions.

If it were a OC, they'd be trusted. It's not.

End of story.

well i am keeping mine. Zombie U is amazing , NSMBU is fun as hell, so... while others surf the net over and over just to find the correct specs - i ll be playing

Keep in mind the people telling this info are taking these things apart, so they might know something.

That should be the way it is. But unfortunately it's not.

Idk about anyone else but anand is embarrassing himself with the way they arrive at their conclusions, get it wrong, try again, etc.

They offer pure speculation in the CPU and gpu. Pure speculation on the edram. And then, while matching part numbers and begin to ALMOST start to make sense, then revert to the original Wii specs, which this console shares nothing with, and begin to dog the ram based on the wii.

Smart? Knowledgable? Sure. If we were talking about the original wii. But even then, they don't understand the wii ram layout.

But...

We aren't talking about the old wii.

They were stupid for even bringing it up.

In fact, the only reason they did is so that they could falsely report the ram specs while at the same time connecting the wii u to the wii in the readers mind so that they could conclude (which they do in very obvious terms) that the wii u is in the same generation as the ps/360.

Why do they make that connection? Is it because they factually reported ram performance? Nope. It's still a huge guess, and part of their hypothesis is the upgraded GameCube known as the wii...

Is it bause they know the exact nature of the CPU or gpu? Nope. And they're still guessing on both.

Then there is the power draw, which instead of lauding as a power 7 derived power management miracle and praise Nintendo further for integrating things to make better power at higher efficiency, they try to play it off like the machine isn't using power because it has none.

It would be funny if it weren't so sad to see an agenda at work. I've liked an ads work at times over the years. But this is pretty pathetic.

I was the first to critisize yesterday and I realised how wrong I was, there was a thread on here earlier and it turns out nothing is confirmed yet and all the websites that did the teardown could have been talking out of thier asses, plus from what I heard when you register for Club Nintendo there is a message that says Nintendo is aware of the Wii U's Slow OS and they are working for an update to fix it, it also says the same thing in the support forums, and you can't really critisize that, all consoles launch with problems, if I understand corectly the 360's launch and PS3's launch was a lot worse.

For a company like Nintendo which always had reliable hardware in the past - I can't imagine they are happy with this ...it will get fixed I'm sure.

I think it went from being pretty hyped to being brought down to ground level. While most the launch issues aren't enough to angrily return the system or throw it out the window (at least in my opinion). There are enough small things to be slightly miffed over. So if anything..right now its not really the hype machine it was anymore...still a fun system though!

Oh dear.

It's happening!

It seems a majority of reveiwers have nothing great to say about the Wii U. Im hear to say they are very biased right now. I got my Wii U and most of the problems people are talking about are real minor or not too notacable. Such as people complaining about the touchscreens response time which was perfectly fine.So it leads me to think people are just hating. What do you think?

Ok. Just want to let people see that not is all gloom and doom. People are claiming to be canceling orders (don't see why...there is a warranty).

I plugged in my GamePad. Connected system. Turned on power and followed instructions.

Mine works....anybody else?

I know a lot of people on this thread said they bought it for Christmas for themselves, and have to wait to play it.  I STRONGLY suggest you open it, and test it out.  There have been issues with some peoples, and I would have for you to be disappointed on Christams day, or your children because of a defective product, that way if it is, you have time to replace it.  I will post what happend to me below, I posted it in another thread, but, I want as many people to see it, so they do not run into the same issues.


I picked mine up today.  Very frustrated, and I beleive Nintendo has lost a customer of 30+ years today.  Hooked everything up, press the power button on and nothing, the power light just blinks blue constantly.  I looked in the manual for troubleshooting ideas, and nothing was there to cover my issue.  They had a section on blinking red light, I thought I would try that, and it did not work.  I decided to call Nintendo and they were no help either, I told the rep my issue, that my system would not cut on, and all she would say is, did you do the update yet? LOL  Really, I said, how can I do an update when I told you my system will not even turn on.  She had no clue.  She informed me my only option was to ship my system back to them at my expense and they would repair it in 5-7 business days.  I asked her how is that fair to the customer to incur extra expenses on a system that is brand new, and should work.  Why would I pay for a new system, and receive back a repaired/refurbished unit.  I said I would consider this if they refunded me $50 to $100 of my purchase price, or give me 2 games of my choice at no expense.  She said they could do none of that.

I then hung up the phone with her and called Gamestop to see if they had any other extra systems and was infomred they only received thier pre orders and no more, and not time table for any future shipments.  I then proceeded to call all the other merchants in my area to see if they had any in stock, and naturally, they did not.  I then proceeded to call Nintendo again, hoping to have a better experience, and get some type of resolution.  I was offered the same thing, after further discussion, I thought I had finally recieved satisfaction when she told me they would ship me a new system and to please hold on while she set everything up.  I was on hold another 10-15 minutes for her to finally tell me at the end that I would have to pay for shipping the replacement unit to me, and I would have to purchase the new system from them also, pay to ship my defective unit back, and then when they receive my WIi U back, they would credit my card back.  Once again, more hassle and inconvience to me.  I advised the rep that this is not a fair option, and having me to pay any additional costs out of my pocket is unrealistic, especially around the holidays when I can't have an extra $360 tied up.

She stated she understood and would get me to a manager who had more power than her, and further options.  I spoke to him and was given the same options, nothing new.  All I asked them to do is to please ship a new Wii U to the store I purchased it from, and then I could just exchange them.  He told me they are not able to do this.  I then proceeded to tell him that I know he is only doing what Nintendo allows them to do, but, I would be sure to go on facebook, twitter, and every other social platform I could find and let others know of my experience, and how little Nintendo values their customers.  I wasted hours of my day, and have 4 disappointed children who was looking forward to playing the new system, and me also. LOL

I have owned every system Nintendo has ever made, for the OG NES to all the handhelds.  I also advised the rep to pass on to upper management that Nintendo is not too big to fail, in fact, companies go under all the time, and in these touch economical times, they need to do everything they can to keep their customers happy, and purchasing their products.  Sorry for my rant, but, I just find this unacceptable.  To all those that have purchased theirs, I hope that you have a better experience than I have.

I'm sorry...but all I'm seeing out of all of your posts are trolls. You posted the same exact message on different threads. If what you are saying is true, than I am sorry about that. But I'm finding it hard to believe that Nintendo wouldn't test their consoles before they put them up in stores. ESPECIALLY upon release date. Once again, I'm sorry if this really happened, but all I'm seeing is, "Troll troll troll troll troll troll troll troll troll troll troll." Sorry if this seems like I'm being disrespectful, but this post looks a bit nonsensical.

Sales wise, yes, the WII was successful. You look at the Wii's Library you see nothing but a bunch of shovelware titles, Nintendo titles, and no third party support. The Wii was a terrible system.

I disagree. Yes there was a lot of shovelware especially from third parties but there was a decent number of quality titles both first party and third party. The Wii was far from being a terrible system. It was a huge success commercially and was pretty good regards software support. I have at least 25 games which are AAA quality if not close to it and there are probably quite a few I don't own as they are not to my taste. As far as first party games go Nintendo are far better then Microsoft and definitely give Sony a run for their money. At the end of the day the Wii was not designed for the hardcore gamer or the long time Nintendo fans but a new larger casual gamer market. Nintendo wasn't trying to compete with Sony and Microsoft but going after a different market and was a big success as a result of it.