Fair comment on the bulldozer, bobcat confusion but jaguar is still at 3 dmips per mhz so 38,400 dmips there abouts. Not a 100 miles away from the area we were talking about though is it and admitedly I also sometimes write spu instead of spe.
Not sure what the point is about mips and dmips. Dmips is a test to calculate mips and as can be seen from the page previously linked to shows both mips and dmips being used. mips is millions of instructions per second and dmips is dhyrstone millions of instructions per second (the actual test that calculates mips).
It still doesn't change much compared to the absolute farcical ravings of people comparing the wii u cpu with the amd jaguar. It's just utter madness that clearly can not be demonstrated by a single wii u game which is still struggling to match current gen consoles most of the time.
I mean is anyone honestly stupid enough to think that a console that is struggling to compete with the current gen models can somehow transform into a super powerful console that can compete with the much more powerful ps4 and xbox one. It just staggers the mind that anyone can believe that.
How much evidence do people need so they can understand where the wii u sits in performance terms. Do we really have to go through perhaps a year of wii u releases before people finally accept the wii u performs to a similar level to 360 and PS3. Surely there is enough evidence currently available.
Console loyality is almost like a religion to some people and no matter how much evidence to contradict their opinion they will fight tooth and nail to convince themselves and others of their false beliefs.
The wii u is;
1) Using a dated and low cost fabrication process (45nm), inferior even to the ps3 gpu which is on 40nm. PS4 and xbone are on 28nm
2) Uses far less power than the latest versions of ps3 and 360 even allowing for the hard drive in ps3/360s and the faster optical drive of wii u.
3) uses cpu architecture from well into the last century with easily proven low performance in both integer and floating point calculations and is using low memory bandwidth memory chips
4) has been calculated to have gpu gflops performance of around 352 gflops ( a mere fraction of the xbone's 1200gflops and ps4's 1800gflops. This puts it directly in the area of 300-400 gflops performance which both ps3 and 360 occupy(cpu+gpu).
5) Zero evidence that the wii u can outperform 360 and PS3 except for some enhanced PC textures using in need for speed. The game itself is still running at 720p at 30fps and doesn't offer the 7.1 soundtrack of the ps3. Many wii u games have major cpu features ripped out like physics engines or cpu intensive graphic detail.
I'm just trying to get people to understand the performance level of the wii u. Fanboys can do a lot of damage, they can make people believe something is better than it is or make them believe what they want to believe. You need do no more than see how the wii u is performing today to assese its performance level. If your happy with that performance there isn't a problem but if you are buying because you believe later games will somehow compete with the best offerings of xbone or ps4 then you are going to be massively disappointed.
Jaguar gets about 2.7 (2.697) dmips per Mhz. Quit inflating.
The problem you had with dmips is you erroneously believed that a single integer operation was the same thing as a dmip. Which is where you got your laughable cell 'specs' from. Or did you forget that you just had your cell dmips WAY HIGHER than the current (still inflated) dmips you just provided for the next gen ps4/xbone (and you try and play it off by saying its not a big deal in your big picture lmfao).
Once again, drop the strawman, claiming the wii u is beyond ps360 is not the same thing as saying its on par with ps4/xbone. In fact NO ONE HERE has claimed it will be as powerful As ps4/xbone.
In fact, i have, over and over again, and over, and over, and again and again stated that the ps4/xbone will be around 3-4x more powerful than wii u.
Well guess what, 350 gflops x 4 = 1400 Gflops.
You dont get to talk anything fanboy related, or loyalty blindness. You have been the only one demonstrating this, and Youve been caught red handed for the last time.
You are done dude. Youve been proven dead wrong about everything over and over again,with hard proof.
Your blind fanboyism has been directly exposed. Nobody with any remote clue to what they are talking about are going to confusing freaking BULLDOZER with BOBCAT regaurding JAGUAR, Its not even a cat name, what did you think it was a freaking transformer? Its not ravage. That only comes from blind fanboy fantasies.
Again you are done. Completely done.
You cant bs about your technical knowledge, you screwed the pooch on that one.
You cant try and play fanboy cards, You are beyond exposed.
Your strawmans are lousy, and your attempts at twisting words, and putting words in other peoples mouths are... well, you arent good at it, and after seeing this, anyone who sees this, your arguments will carry even less weight so I guess its negative weight like a hydrogen filled balloon.
Its over. Just give up the whole technical trolling thing. Talk about games, hell talkabout ps360 games in the general section. I do, I just started a dark souls run.
Edited by 3Dude, 02 June 2013 - 11:21 AM.
