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[3Dude]

So those threads at Neogaf about the CPU and GPU based on those Chipworks photos... Are they just theories or is someone getting close to the performance (of Wii U)?

 

All just theories. Theyll be the first to say the same if asked.

[NintendoReport]

.i dont know why people keep on about bayonetta 2,it looks very average at best and we have seen MUCH better visuals on the last gen consoles.

 

 

Your ignorance is comical. I suggest actually reading before making a reply.

 

Also, here is some reference material for you to study.

 

http://thewiiu.com/t...ay/#entry222808

[syks-1]

3Dude gives facts yet you deny them and call us fanboys knowing you are loosing. I'm not saying the Wii U is as powerful, I'm just saying the Wii U isn't severely underpowered like you imply.

3Dude isn't a fanboy. He owns multiple consoles by different devs. I will be getting a PS4 so please think before you type senseless junk.

its very underpowered when compared to ps4/xboxone

[Gaymer]

im not trolling,im just stating facts,and if you say the wii u is on a par visually with ps4/xboxone then im affraid you must be a fanboy,bayonetta is not even on par with alot of last gen games visually no matter how many polys etc it boasts,it dosnt look that good at all

You should provide actual evidence to support your claims. 3dude does this and that's why his arguments hold weight above yours. You seem to be throwing tantrums by calling people fanboys and whatnot (which is actually against the rules here) simply because you have failed to back up your arguments so far.

[Alex Wolfers]

its very underpowered when compared to ps4/xboxone

Unless you have strong evidence like 3Dude does you are so incorrect. I may not even be a spec expert but I can tell Nintendo is only slightly below the competition. Your point is still fruitless.

You should provide actual evidence to support your claims. 3dude does this and that's why his arguments hold weight above yours. You seem to be throwing tantrums by calling people fanboys and whatnot (which is actually against the rules here) simply because you have failed to back up your arguments so far.

Exactly bro. He is running out of ammo.

Edited by Rose Red, 17 June 2013 - 05:04 AM.

[djlewe78]

Somebody raised the argument that the 3DS is less powerful than VITA yet outsold it.
Its a handeld so graphics really do play second fiddle to quick adictive gameplay in that market.
But in home consoles we play on our huge screen HD TVS, and watch crystal clear blueray films, we expect the very best visuals fro our consoles, fair enough?

[Alex Wolfers]

Somebody raised the argument that the 3DS is less powerful than VITA yet outsold it.
Its a handeld so graphics really do play second fiddle to quick adictive gameplay in that market.
But in home consoles we play on our huge screen HD TVS, and watch crystal clear blueray films, we expect the very best visuals fro our consoles, fair enough?

Home theatre systems are expensive. Hell i'm even still using a 90s TV. Unless you have money for a huge TV or sound system it doesn't really matter. Plus you have to remember my point about the Wii U not being that underpowered. 

[3Dude]

Syks, you have single handedly degenerated this thread into nonsense I had to clean up. Knock off the fanboy crap and provide an actual argument.

Your 'I dont care if it does a bunch of stuff the ps360 cant do it still doesnt look good to me' Opinion has been stated and been inneffective, everybody knows your stance and has responded to it way too many times.

Find some new material or move on. Several people have linked you directly to a thread about comparing and analyzing bayo2 vs ps360 games. If you think you have some material, put it there and provide an argument.

You are done with your arguments being 'nope fanboy'. Substance. Provide some.


Posted moments ago
I already know your post history, your view of
the wii u at any point of time is not the issue
here. Thats not what makes a 'troll'.You are spamming the same garbage over
and over again with nothing to back it up.
People are using their eyes and they are
disagreeing with you. All youve provided is your
opinion, and they dont agree with it. Reposting
it unchanged over and over and over again isnt
going to do anything but make a mess. I had to
remove like 15 repeated responses to your
sameness.

Take a look at the analysis thread and see what
a supported argument looks like, and make one
with a ps360 game of your choosing to show
how its better.
Repeating the same unsubstantiated opinion
over and over again isnt happening. Once is
enough. If people arent convinced, you
obviously need to provide more, or accept that
people arent agreeing with your opinion.

Stop spamming ot nonsense.

[Grooseland]

We all know syks is a troll. 

 

This generation is really going to be very close when it comes to graphics. You can't really go wrong with any of the three. Hopefully in the near future we'll be discussing story, gameplay, music, art style etc...

 

 

Wishful thinking of course 

 

Edited by Grooseland, 17 June 2013 - 07:44 AM.

[Skywalkman-GB]

well I can see the xbox one and ps4 being great consoles from the start, great titles to keep you entertained, the wii u has been out for ages, I am still waiting for some games!

[TheUltimateWaddleDee]

well I can see the xbox one and ps4 being great consoles from the start, great titles to keep you entertained, the wii u has been out for ages, I am still waiting for some games!

It's been a year, this is actually normal. The 360 didn't take off until Gears of War, and the PS3 didn't take off until Uncharted, both games coming out a year after their respective console launches.

[Dragon]

All hail 3Dude. XD

[Tacomywaffles]

I don't know what this tells us about the Xbone but i find it very entertaining

 

http://i.imgur.com/AydA1KL.jpg

Edited by Tacomywaffles, 17 June 2013 - 10:45 AM.

[3Dude]

I don't know what this tells us about the Xbone but i find it very entertaining
 
http://i.imgur.com/AydA1KL.jpg

That is a textbook example of billboarding. Really bad billboarding, theres actually at least 5 more instances not circled.

You usee billboarding when you have the gpu power to display lots of models, but dont have the cpu power/ai know how to give them all ai, you make several groups all doing the same exact thing at the same time, and spread them out so the user doesnt notice.

[Tacomywaffles]

That is a textbook example of billboarding. Really bad billboarding, theres actually at least 5 more instances not circled.

You usee billboarding when you have the gpu power to display lots of models, but dont have the cpu power/ai know how to give them all ai, you make several groups all doing the same exact thing at the same time, and spread them out so the user doesnt notice.

yeah there isnt a single unique warrior on the whole battle field, they're all clones of 3 or 4  different models actually

[3Dude]

yeah there isnt a single unique warrior on the whole battle field, they're all clones of 3 or 4  different models actually

Thats actually a different trick called instancing. You use instancing when you arent meeting the necessary performance/need to boost performance.

Typically its used for rocks or trees, or other typically non unique non noticable background assets. You can typically alter parameters, like size, or textures.... which wasnt done at all here.

Instancing speeds up performance by simply copying the same vertex data over and over and over again, instead of processing hundreds of unique sets of data.

Pikmin 3 uses instancing, but it doesnt use billboarding, according to miyamoto, each individual pikmin is controlled by its own ai.

[YoshiGamer9]

If Wii U was as powerful as xbox one it would probably the same price as the xbox one, and be all power crazy! :S

[routerbad]

If Wii U was as powerful as xbox one it would probably the same price as the xbox one, and be all power crazy! :S

The Kinect accounts for a large portion of the XBONE pricing.  The original was $150.  I wouldn't doubt this one could cost much more.

[LinkKennedy]

I think Nintendo should have shown off X in a playable demo, that way we could see it in action. I feel that way we could have a better look at Wiiu's capability.

[kirbylover]

* Flame shield activated* Bring on the hate.

 

Now that all three systems have been reviled it's really sad to see how the Wii U stacks up to the Ps4.

Pika Pika. Translation: Your faith doesn't stack up very well compared to true fans. In fact if anybody hates any nintendo console (Besides the vitraul boy ) their really not a true nintendo fan. Because pretty much every system had multiple great games to play on it. But I'll respect your opinon. Someone talking about people being fanboys. Heh? I LIKE to be called a fanboy but then again, I don't want to be called a fanboy in a bad way either.

Edited by kirbylover, 17 June 2013 - 04:38 PM.