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#1 Auzzie Wingman

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 06:05 PM

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Hi, I'm Auzzie Wingman. I've been here on the Wii U Forums for a long time.

I'm not one of the most respected, I'm not one of the elite, I'm in no way saying I have a level of superiority above anyone. I am human and prone to error. I tend to care for every individual on this site, and for the site itself. So how about a little story time before I absolutely tear everything to pieces.

When I first joined, this site was quite literally a halcyon of the internet. Now, for those who don't know, a halcyon is period of utter serene peace, or something to that effect. The arguments were naught, the place wasn't spammed. "On the Wii U Forums? NO WAY!" Well yes, it is true. Such a thing existed here.... until Victorious V and nl had the first ever biache fight in the chat room. Mind you, such biaching was really tame to half the stuff that happens now.


And now, for the reasons that brought you here. My perspective on why things are DYING.

* Staff - It's a bit hard not to start with the staff. Of the six staff that can actually do something, only 3 of them are actually active. Mournblade is working his ass off for the most part, and Andy and Joshua tend to be on when he isn't. At least for the most part there is moderators around the clock. The problem is that there aren't active admins. I managed to send Feld0 and email today, and that's why he appeared today. AMAC and Crackkat have just disappeared off the face of the forums altogether.

We need a more dedicated administrator in the event that Feld0 can't acquire AMAC's services anymore. The same goes for the fourth moderator position if he can't get Crackkat.

* Threads - Yeah, threads. There are a number of problems going on with threads. First off, spam threads. We don't have a section for spam threads, so don't make them. And you wonder why people are calling this site crap. Didn't happen back in the day when quality existed, why did it ever happen. Then you've got Zinix's threads. I'm all for news, but there's also this thing called taste, and Zinix, I can tell you are purposely posting news that no one truly wants to hear. Anything that sounds immoral or destructive, you feel you need to post NO YOU DON'T STOP IT. Repeat threads. I think everyone needs to get over them. It's proven that search can be iffy and even more people don't know it exists. Merge whenever it gets found and never speak of it again, stop complaining about doubles. Do what Hunter did yesterday.

On another note, there really hasn't been enough meaningful topics out there. If you have an idea on how you can get a fulfilling discussion going, then post it. I'm more than ready to talk, practically everyone who uses the C3 is ready to discuss, heck, the people migrating from 3DSF lately more than likely have something constructive to say from where I'm sitting. I mean just look at 3Dude. 3DSF migrant who's been making great to hear news threads about the Wii U.

* Posts - First off, be constructive. Positive or negative, try to post things that actually make sense. No spam, no complete hatewagons. It's silly and degrading to everything, so don't troll. Also, cut the fanboyism. Saturn, this one is mostly to you. No need to be "Blame microsoft" or however it is that you do it. This might've been before you joined, but there is actually a strict "No bashing" policy on this forum. This also goes to several other members who have been invading the Hardware section and complaining "it's about the games, eff specs talk".

* Members - This is the big one. It involves all of you, no exceptions, not even Feld0, not even Epic Kirby, not even Hari nor Noonabites. EVERYONE. This is a public zone. You can hide behind your monitors but it's no different from being in school or a convention talking on stage. You can be yourself, but there are expectations of you from everyone else. If you feel that you aren't meeting those expectations, then perhaps you should show restraint. By expectations, people expect you to be polite. If you're gonna be aggressive then give a good reason to be aggressive. Don't troll others opinions and understand they aren't you, they might get it and they might not. If you feel offended, then let people know, they can't be expected to know if you don't say something. Stop working around behind each other's backs godamnit.

* Be part of the community - Say hi to people in introduction threads, jump into chat when you can, go into threads you don't usually go to, have fun in the forum games and roleplay section, put up a status update, change your profile every once in a while, discuss, post, be bothered. Simple.

Okay whatever. You've pissed me off. This is what you get.

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#2 Jacob

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 06:10 PM

This left a tear in my eye.


Edited by Jacob, 13 March 2013 - 01:26 PM.

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#3 Fiery

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 06:11 PM

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You would make a great moderator.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 06:11 PM

That's a pretty good synopsis.

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#5 Jacob

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 06:14 PM

You would make a great moderator.

Are you talking to me? Because, if I was a Mod... my dreams would be completed.

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#6 Fiery

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 06:15 PM

Are you talking to me? Because, if I was a Mod... my dreams would be completed.

No. I meant Auzzie.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 06:15 PM

Make this guy a mod please :D

We should have a vote on people to make new mods, kinda like an election :3

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#8 Chaos

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 06:15 PM

I volunteer myself for mod! Not really... Anywhey, this is pretty deep staff. If we had one more admin, I don't think this would be as big of a problem, but the community itself is the source of the implosion and had almost nothing to do with mods and admins. This is personally what I think though.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 06:15 PM

Are you talking to me? Because, if I was a Mod... my dreams would be completed.

It's more plausible they meant the Australian Wingman.
I don't have an opinion either way on that.

Make this guy a mod please :D

We should have a vote on people to make new mods, kinda like an election :3

NO.
If that ever happened it'd be a sad day in Nollogton.

Rather than assigning a new admin, how about giving moderators more powers?
As I understand it the mods can't see the logs for the chat?
They don't seem to be able to ip ban people either.

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#10 Jacob

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 06:16 PM

No. I meant Auzzie.

Aww.

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#11 danteđź‘Ś

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 06:18 PM

*sniffs* That was beautiful..

#12 Tom

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 06:20 PM

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No silly image macros from me, today.

I would just like to say that you are an American hero, you Australian Mcguffin.

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#13 Alex Wolfers

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 06:23 PM

Thanks for calling me ot Auzzie. I will try to stop being critical and arguing on the forums. I will start finding ways to express my fandom in a constructive way.

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#14 giggity3000

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 06:23 PM

It's sad that not many people will see this thread.

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#15 Alex Wolfers

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 06:27 PM

It's more plausible they meant the Australian Wingman.
I don't have an opinion either way on that.


NO.
If that ever happened it'd be a sad day in Nollogton.

Rather than assigning a new admin, how about giving moderators more powers?
As I understand it the mods can't see the logs for the chat?
They don't seem to be able to ip ban people either.

The current mods isnt enough. We either need to get the current ones active again or hire new ones. Even then we may need a few more plus a new admin to replace AMAC who vanished of the face of the earth. As for your stance on voting I agree.

It's sad that not many people will see this thread.

We need to spread the word Quagmire.

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#16 Fiery

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 06:28 PM

If you're gonna make new Admins it should depend on which one is the most active and does the most work. I would say Mournblade would be a great admin since he works a lot for a moderator.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 06:29 PM

The current mods isnt enough. We either need to get the current ones active again or hire new ones. Even then we may need a few more plus a new admin to replace AMAC who vanished of the face of the earth. As for your stance on voting I agree.

The forum isn't that active.
It's just inaction on certain things which has culminated into a cluster of sorts.
Certainly, some moderators and admins have been inactive, but lightening the need for the admins to intervene would help the main issues we've had.
The distasteful person will become bored soon, and that won't be a problem anymore. No need to lose our hats about something rare like that.

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#18 Blake

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 06:42 PM

Thank you, Auzzie. The forums needed a topic like this to top off the recent changes. Once again, thank you.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 06:45 PM

Very good post, Auzzie! :*)

I'd love to work as part of the staff here at the site. Maybe as a developer admin? I should contact Feld0 and see if he needs any PHP developers.

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#20 Arioch

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 06:51 PM

For many points, I agree with the points you raised.

As for Crackkat, I found out recently that he actually messaged AMAC about his planned absence. I can't really comment as I don't know when he'll be active again or if he wants me to mention why he he has been inactive.

I will also take part of the blame in regards to the troll incident that happened earlier. I was naive enough to think that he would eventually give up and everyone would move past it after the first few attempts. I suppose I was wrong and I should have contacted feldo about the troll earlier, as he made 5 accounts Friday, 8 yesterday, and about 5 more today.
But the community is part to blame for the forum "imploding" due to the obsession of the users with the troll and their public crisis with the site itself. The troll wanted a response and I'm sure after seeing that, he was more than satisfied.
Feldo made a status response about ignoring users who piss you off, and this includes the troll. That is pretty much the way to deal with a troll, even if he pretends to be me, Andy, or Moronblade.

Everything else was summed up rather nicely and really has no need for me to comment on it.





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