Aiddon

Read the actual article, its making you look really stupid.

 

Honestly, I'm sorta with Thrash.

 

What this is sounding like to me is another person whining that Retro isn't making Metroid or another dudebro shooter, and taking it out on DKC:TF.

 

Not to mention this wonderful quote coming from the same person who lists NBA 2K14 as one of his favorite games of 2013: "I want the innovators to take charge, the people who won't play by the rules, who would rather die with ambition than thrive playing it safe."

 

As well as this brilliant quote: "In my hour with Tropical Freeze, I just don't see anything that makes this game special. Sometimes fun just isn't enough for me." Really? Having fun with a game isn't the most important part in wanting to buy it? It has to innovate in a thousand different ways too? I guess all sequels are in trouble then.

 

I've pretty much learned to disregard GameSpot when it comes to Nintendo reviews/articles/etc because usually, they're crap. Who can forget when they gave Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon (A rather easy game...only died once or twice) a 6.5 because it was "too challenging," or when they gave Professor Layton and the Azran Legacy a 7 because "it refuses to step outside of its comfort zone," then turns around and slaps a 8/10 on Call of Duty and Battlefield 4 for sticking to its yearly churned-out formula with loads of bugs and godawful campaigns?

 

gaemz juranlism at itz fienst

 

And as for them giving Link Between Worlds their "favorite game of 2013"...well, a broken clock is right twice a day.

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Why is the default reaction to fire top management? Management still has an excellent record with the 3DS and everything before. If they were to bring in new management all it would do is force Nintendo to have an identity crisis, possibly The ruining their reputation in the process. At most they need to try to get a better understanding of the current market and consumer perceptions, and hire analysts to come up with a solution to improve it. And fire their marketing director.

Sorry, but if you're going top be constantly linking to IGN would you mind quoting a summary of the article? Otherwise it seems suspiciously like linkbait.

 

The summary of the article is "Wii U will only sell 25 million units in its lifetime" whenever that quote is going off of currently old data without taking anything that would happen in the future into consideration that'd boost system sales such as price cuts, the release of Mario Kart 8, or the release of Super Smash Bros 4.

 

http://m.ign.com/art...-as-well-as-wii

Yeah. This guy is about 9 months behind me. He gets paid?

I point out the obvious I get belittled here. He points out the obvious he gets paid $250 grand a year. 8)

 

See, you claim you point out the "obvious" while completely ignoring the obvious.

 

The data both you and this "analyst" are completely ignoring are a lot of factors that will come into play in the future. Factors in the form of price cuts, being cheaper than the competition, currently being the only next-gen system to actually have any form of backwards compatibility with its predecessor's games and controllers, and system-selling games such as Mario Kart or Super Smash Bros.

 

By this analyst's logic, the 3DS should only have sold 30 or 40 million units in its lifetime based on the first year. And guess what happened? The 3DS is currently on its way to getting close to 40 million systems sold in its second (third?) year. Gee, wonder what changed...oh, yeah. Nintendo released Mario Kart 7, Mario 3D Land, a ton of other games after the fact, and cut the system price.

 

By this analyst's' logic, the PS3 should've sold in the 25-30 million range based on its first year. But look at that magic! The system got a price cut and games worth buying, and it started selling.

 

Am I saying the Wii U will sell anywhere near Wii numbers? No. Will it only sell 25 million units? Heck no. The Wii U more appeals to the casual market more than the PS4 or Xbone ever would, as it has more value per dollar. $300 gets you the system with NSMBU and NSLU, and the system is also backwards compatible with the entire Wii library and controllers. Not to mention this bundle that was offered by Nintendo UK that nets you the system with NSMBU/NSLU/Mario 3D World/Mario Wiimote/Mario Hat for £299.99. For $400 you can get a PS4 with no games, that isn't backwards compatible with any PS3 games or controllers, or $500 for an Xbone that isn't backwards compatible with any Xbox 360 games or controllers.

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well all Wii U games are great but what lacks Wii U 1st party games is variety.

When will there be a Wii U shooter or a 17+ adventure ( infamous  ) ?

Till now most of Wii U first party games are  targeted at family or teens but when will there be a first party  game targeted at Mature audiences

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For a long time now I've thought you were a troll.  But I'm beginning to think you really are as clueless as you seem.  

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Guess what though, Wii U sales have picked up since Mario 3D World launched, by a considerable enough amount.

 

Also, asking Nintendo to make games that don't bring people together is like asking Pixar to make a film only for adults. It doesn't make sense. Why completely disregard people under the age of 18 when you can release games that everyone can enjoy?

Home consoles, yes. Handhelds, a little far form it.

It's true that he completely sunk THQ, but that doesn't mean that he's wrong about this. This generation is most likely lost in terms of the home console business and the handheld business is now only half of what it was last generation.

Nintendo is on the path to irrelevance. It doesn't mean that they're irrelevant now, just walking that way. One thing that I agree though, is that they really are a worldwide treasure.

All they have to do now is continue business as usual this generation (not much can be done about the Wii U now), and reinvent themselves in the next one.

You should really, REALLY make sure you know what someone has said before professing you agree with them.

What you think he is saying, what you think you are agreeing with, based off of two snippets of his propaggand packed bs is very, VERY different than what this ceo of a mobile games company actually said.

He is very, VERY wrong, unluss you want the future of videogames to be mobile.

But if you actually WANT games the likes of snood to replace the likes of Zelda... Then by all means...

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well this is what it is. At this point it is easy for anyone in the industry to make comments like this as the Wii U is surrounded still (after the release of 3dworld one of the years best) with negativity. it is easy to step on someone when they are down. when Wii was selling like hotcake did nintendo get praise... NO it was called a gimmick and no one gave them the respect they deserved. this is just nintendo getting what they industry always gives them

Um... Just some information to shed some light on the subject, Rubin is now the ceo of a mobile/social games company, 'monkey gods'..

Although that probably has nothing to do with this. Theres no way hes constantly trash talking nintendo, a subject and tactic GARUNTEED to start enormous flamewars, which result in TONS of eyes on publicity for his antics, and hes in no way constantly pushing mobile out his spleen because hes trying to get his garbage mobile games propaganda in the air. No, that has nothing to do with it at all.

So, basically, it's another moron whining that Nintendo games are amazing, but yet are awful because you can't buy them for a system that ends in Station or Box...and also refuses to buy the systems to play said games on.

 

One of the great thunkers of the world, this one is.

Mostly pr speak, but it i am quite willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, and with the PS4 and XBO showing nothing but mediocrity game wise i have got plenty of time spare to allow Nintendo the chance to wow us on a more regular basis than they did through 2013.

 

Unfortunately it seems that mediocrity is what people want. In fact they want the exact same mediocrity they've been getting for years, just shinier. Give them an FPS with the same controls as the last 50 games, a five hour linear campaign that's padded with cinematic events that you watch, a multiplayer mode that hasn't changed a bit from the previous entries aside from some gimmick (dog tags, dogs, RC cars, etc.), and boom you have yourself a game of the year contender. Oh and don't forget high production values and achievements. If the game isn't comparable to a Michael Bay film then it's not even a game. 

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He's the same guy that thought that Nintendo was in a position to claim that the Xbox One and PS4 had a poor launch library, so I can't take him seriously anyway.

 

But he is right, X1 and PS4 do have a "meh" launch lineup when you compare it to the Wii U's current library (which is exactly what he was doing).

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This thread is lame imo, Microsoft wouldn't buy Monolith Soft. You do know that the XBOX brand is pretty much dead in Japan right? Doubt they would buy a Japanese developer just to localize games in the US.

The supposed "hardcore gamer" should already know of the Wii U's existence, and shouldn't need to be advertised to. The problem is that said "hardcore gamers"  don't care about the Wii U. Nothing will convince them that it's more than powerful enough to run their shooters, or what have you. All they care about is that Nintendo is for kids and Xbox is for kids, too adults. I understand that these commercials only further their silly misconceptions, but even if they did cater to the hardcore crowd, I don't think they'd change their mind about Nintendo.

 

The only thing I can think of that would have saved the Wii U is if it launched yesterday. The months-long game drought was the main thing that killed it, and that wouldn't be a problem if they just pushed back release another year. Another plus of doing so would be that, instead of the year-old console and the two brand-new, cutting-edge, next-gen consoles, it would be three completely new consoles. There would be much more talk and speculation about it, as it would be a direct part of the "console war", and I believe the sales would do significantly better due to more games and more hype. As it is, the Wii U is already kind of "dead"; nobody talks or cares about it as a next-gen console, because it's old! 1 year old!

 

Sure, the general derp-filled populous would be moaning and groaning about how long it was taking Nintendo to release their new system, but it would be better for them in the long run, IMO.

 

Families aren't Nintendo's "target audience", per se, but they're the only audience they have that needs to be advertised to. Like I said, the hardcore gamers know that the Wii U exists (or they should), but they don't care. If you're too old to fit into that "family" demographic, then you're too old to be asking your parents to buy you a console, at least in my book.

lol some of those comments are pathetic "Nintendo stop advertising Wii U as a family console, i get called a baby for playing Mario". Srsly these losers need to grow a pair and stop caring what people think of them.

People need to realize and open their eyes that Nintendo's audience is the family, may not be what you or people who play their games like to be considered because you may just be a gamer but Nintendo's biggest audience is families with small children, it makes no sense for Nintendo to make commercials to go after Sony and Microsoft's fan bases when they can get families much easier. To me, I don't see why Nintendo should push Ghosts being on the Wii U when the primary demographic that will buy that game already has an XBOX or is looking into a different next generation console.